What does this have to do with the Koch brothers funding the FUD machine?
The validity or lack thereof of the current scientific evidence for/against AGW is a subject for debate among qualified experts: not you or I. That the experts have come to an almost unanimous consensus *is* something that the non-expert can interpret. It means that, among those who are knowledgeable, the evidence is extraordinarily compelling and consistent across many different methodological approaches. So either AGW is essentially correct, or it is an extraordinarily improbable co-incidence that so many different scientists using so many different approaches have uncovered so much compelling evidence that points to the same conclusions.
Which differs not in the slightest from the Gore Gangs attempts to fleece us via carbon trading.
Without Saint Gore's desire for "The sky is falling" data, the Little Ice Age and Medieval Warming Periods would still exist and the Hockey Stick would be a straight line portion of a sawtooth pattern that goes back many thousands of years.
For many years the emphasis of the AGW crowd has centered all of its efforts on justiftying its attempts to steal from the poor and giving to the rich. Either via carbon trading or carbon taxation.
While limiting global population may or may not be a noble goal, stealing even more from those that can least afford it is not the answer.
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Okay, I get it now. And I guess there is a similarity; the oil industry and it's apologists do have extraordinary political clout (even more than the religious fundamentalists, in my estimation), and they are both similarly unconcerned with truth or the long term consequences of their actions on society, as long as their short term interests are served.
Without Saint Gore's desire for "The sky is falling" data, the Little Ice Age and Medieval Warming Periods would still exist and the Hockey Stick would be a straight line portion of a sawtooth pattern that goes back many thousands of years.
That's your interpretation. I'd be far less worried about AGW if 98% of the people who actually know how to obtain and analyze this sort of data didn't disagree with you.
You also seem to have causality reversed. The scientific community has been trying to get this issue recognized since the 1980's; Gore et al. got on board long *after* the evidence of AGW had become unequivocal.
Finally, your opposition to specific mechanisms of *dealing* with AGW is in no way related to wether or not AGW is actually occurring. Perhaps if you came to terms with the fact that AGW is real, and really represents a problem, you might be able to make a contribution to the discussion of how society ought to prepare for and/or mitigate it?
So speaketh the Pope of Deniers... have faith in MacFury and trust not the heathen scientists for they are faithless skeptics who use reason and evidence. Trust the infallible Pope of EhMac for through him does speak Exxon, and the holy Koch Brothers!
So speaketh the Pope of Deniers... have faith in MacFury and trust not the heathen scientists for they are faithless skeptics who use reason and evidence. Trust the infallible Pope of EhMac for through him does speak Exxon, and the holy Koch Brothers!
bryanc, you have publicly stated you don't understand the science. I have accepted your word for this, so I have no reason to listen to your opinion further on this matter.
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What reason have you provided for anyone to listen to your opinion on the science?
Absolutely none. People can judge my contributions on the strength of what I write and the sources I credit.... and they can judge your contributions on your admission of inadequacy.
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People can judge my contributions on the strength of what I write and the sources I credit.... and they can judge your contributions on your admission of inadequacy.
When making such judgements, I think you will find that most of our compatriots here are more capable than you at distinguishing between discussions of the science (which no one here is qualified to do) and discussions of the reactions (in the media, politically, and economically) to that science.
I refrain from criticizing the science because I recognize the limits of my expertise. Apparently you do not.
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