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Old Mar 11th, 2012, 06:08 PM   #1071
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Lindzen et al....got love the the "denier authorities"...

this time Lindzen had no escape from his misrepresentation and had to apologize for his latest scientific gaffe
Apology From Prof. Lindzen for Howard Hayden's NASA-GISS Data Interpretation Error
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Old Mar 11th, 2012, 07:00 PM   #1072
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Lindzen et al....got love the the "denier authorities"...

this time Lindzen had no escape from his misrepresentation and had to apologize for his latest scientific gaffe
Apology From Prof. Lindzen for Howard Hayden's NASA-GISS Data Interpretation Error
He made an error on one table, MacDoc and apologized when he realized it. The GHG house of cards is still crumbling.
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Old Mar 25th, 2012, 06:13 PM   #1073
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Old Mar 25th, 2012, 06:21 PM   #1074
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It explains that some cities had a record high temperature in March.

I've got two more words for you: "Jet Stream.
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Old Mar 25th, 2012, 07:48 PM   #1075
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It explains that some cities had a record high temperature in March.

I've got two more words for you: "Jet Stream.
That is what we were told was the cause of all of our frigid temps here in St.John's while others were very hot. From Environment Canada:
"The Worst Weather In Canada"
March 23, 2012 11:51 AM




Well, it was only fitting that this was the week, which Money Sense magazine labeled St. John's as having "The Worst Weather in Canada".



While the rest of Eastern Canada has basked in unprecedented record breaking heat this week, Newfoundland and Labrador barely got a sniff. Winnipeg, Toronto, Peterborough, Ottawa, Fredericton, Halifax and dozens more experienced their warmest temperatures EVER recorded for the month of March. Halifax hit 28° degrees on Thursday, while St. John's reached just +3° (and that happened overnight) Or how about this... Sydney, Nova Scotia hit 23.1° degrees, while just 170 km across the Cabot Strait, Port aux Basques managed just 9.2°



In end, the jet stream firmly in place over NL, just wouldn't allow that ridge of High pressure and warm air to move into Newfoundland and Labrador.
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That is what we were told was the cause of all of our frigid temps here in St.John's while others were very hot. From Environment Canada:
"The Worst Weather In Canada"
March 23, 2012 11:51 AM




Well, it was only fitting that this was the week, which Money Sense magazine labeled St. John's as having "The Worst Weather in Canada".



While the rest of Eastern Canada has basked in unprecedented record breaking heat this week, Newfoundland and Labrador barely got a sniff. Winnipeg, Toronto, Peterborough, Ottawa, Fredericton, Halifax and dozens more experienced their warmest temperatures EVER recorded for the month of March. Halifax hit 28° degrees on Thursday, while St. John's reached just +3° (and that happened overnight) Or how about this... Sydney, Nova Scotia hit 23.1° degrees, while just 170 km across the Cabot Strait, Port aux Basques managed just 9.2°



In end, the jet stream firmly in place over NL, just wouldn't allow that ridge of High pressure and warm air to move into Newfoundland and Labrador.
I wonder if that damn jetstream is responsible for Obama too.
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Old Mar 25th, 2012, 08:57 PM   #1077
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I wonder if that damn jetstream is responsible for Obama too.
Now, now, gt, this is not the American Political thread. All I am able to say is that the day to day weather here in St.John's has been strange these days, and the climate has changed in my 35 years here in St.John's. Whatever the cause, although I do believe in global warming, there is a change that we can't ignore. We shall see.

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Just a small reminder - our local coterie of climate change deniers knows better than these national and international bodies....

as far as credibility goes ......

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General science
Many science organizations have issued statements supporting the IPCC or pointing out the dangers of avoiding action on climate change.
American Association for the Advancement of Science As the world's largest general scientific society, the American Association for the Advancement of Science adopted an official statement on climate change in 2006:
The scientific evidence is clear: global climate change caused by human activities is occurring now, and it is a growing threat to society....The pace of change and the evidence of harm have increased markedly over the last five years. The time to control greenhouse gas emissions is now.[40]
American Chemical Society[41]
American Institute of Physics[42]
American Physical Society[43]
Australian Institute of Physics[44]
European Physical Society[45]
European Science Foundation[46]
Federation of Australian Scientific and Technological Societies[47]
[edit]Earth sciences
[edit]American Geophysical Union

The American Geophysical Union (AGU) statement,[48] adopted by the society in 2003 and revised in 2007, affirms that rising levels of greenhouse gases have caused and will continue to cause the global surface temperature to be warmer:
The Earth's climate is now clearly out of balance and is warming.
Many components of the climate system—including the temperatures of the atmosphere, land and ocean, the extent of sea ice and mountain glaciers, the sea level, the distribution of precipitation, and the length of seasons—are now changing at rates and in patterns that are not natural and are best explained by the increased atmospheric abundances of greenhouse gases and aerosols generated by human activity during the 20th century. Global average surface temperatures increased on average by about 0.6°C over the period 1956–2006. As of 2006, eleven of the previous twelve years were warmer than any others since 1850. The observed rapid retreat of Arctic sea ice is expected to continue and lead to the disappearance of summertime ice within this century. Evidence from most oceans and all continents except Antarctica shows warming attributable to human activities. Recent changes in many physical and biological systems are linked with this regional climate change. A sustained research effort, involving many AGU members and summarized in the 2007 assessments of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, continues to improve our scientific understanding of the climate.

[edit]American Society of Agronomy, Crop Science Society of America, and Soil Science Society of America
In May, 2011, the American Society of Agronomy (ASA), Crop Science Society of America (CSSA), and Soil Science Society of America (SSSA) issued a joint position statement on climate change as it relates to agriculture:
A comprehensive body of scientific evidence indicates beyond reasonable doubt that global climate change is now occurring and that its manifestations threaten the stability of societies as well as natural and managed ecosystems. Increases in ambient temperatures and changes in related processes are directly linked to rising anthropogenic greenhouse gas (GHG) concentrations in the atmosphere.
Unless the emissions of GHGs are curbed significantly, their concentrations will continue to rise, leading to changes in temperature, precipitation, and other climate variables that will undoubtedly affect agriculture around the world.
Climate change has the potential to increase weather variability as well as gradually increase global
temperatures. Both of these impacts have the potential to negatively impact the adaptability and resilience of the world’s food production capacity; current research indicates climate change is already reducing the productivity of vulnerable cropping systems.[49]


[edit]European Federation of Geologists
In 2008, the European Federation of Geologists[50](EFG) issued the position paper Carbon Capture and geological Storage :
The EFG recognizes the work of the IPCC and other organizations, and subscribes to the major findings that climate change is happening, is predominantly caused by anthropogenic emissions of CO2, and poses a significant threat to human civilization.
It is clear that major efforts are necessary to quickly and strongly reduce CO2 emissions. The EFG strongly advocates renewable and sustainable energy production, including geothermal energy, as well as the need for increasing energy efficiency.
CCS [Carbon Capture and geological Storage] should also be regarded as a bridging technology, facilitating the move towards a carbon free economy.[51]
[edit]European Geosciences Union


In 2005, the Divisions of Atmospheric and Climate Sciences of the European Geosciences Union (EGU) issued a position statement in support of the joint science academies’ statement on global response to climate change. The statement refers to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), as "the main representative of the global scientific community", and asserts that the IPCC
represents the state-of-the-art of climate science supported by the major science academies around the world and by the vast majority of science researchers and investigators as documented by the peer-reviewed scientific literature.[52]
Additionally, in 2008, the EGU issued a position statement on ocean acidification which states, "Ocean acidification is already occurring today and will continue to intensify, closely tracking atmospheric CO2 increase. Given the potential threat to marine ecosystems and its ensuing impact on human society and economy, especially as it acts in conjunction with anthropogenic global warming, there is an urgent need for immediate action." The statement then advocates for strategies "to limit future release of CO2 to the atmosphere and/or enhance removal of excess CO2 from the atmosphere."[53]

[edit]Geological Society of America
In 2006, the Geological Society of America adopted a position statement on global climate change. It amended this position on April 20, 2010 with more explicit comments on need for CO2 reduction.
Decades of scientific research have shown that climate can change from both natural and anthropogenic causes. The Geological Society of America (GSA) concurs with assessments by the National Academies of Science (2005), the National Research Council (2006), and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC, 2007) that global climate has warmed and that human activities (mainly greenhouse‐gas emissions) account for most of the warming since the middle 1900s. If current trends continue, the projected increase in global temperature by the end of the twentyfirst century will result in large impacts on humans and other species. Addressing the challenges posed by climate change will require a combination of adaptation to the changes that are likely to occur and global reductions of CO2 emissions from anthropogenic sources.[54]

[edit]Geological Society of London
In November 2010, the Geological Society of London issued the position statement Climate change: evidence from the geological record:
The last century has seen a rapidly growing global population and much more intensive use of resources, leading to greatly increased emissions of gases, such as carbon dioxide and methane, from the burning of fossil fuels (oil, gas and coal), and from agriculture, cement production and deforestation. Evidence from the geological record is consistent with the physics that shows that adding large amounts of carbon dioxide to the atmosphere warms the world and may lead to: higher sea levels and flooding of low-lying coasts; greatly changed patterns of rainfall; increased acidity of the oceans; and decreased oxygen levels in seawater. There is now widespread concern that the Earth’s climate will warm further, not only because of the lingering effects of the added carbon already in the system, but also because of further additions as human population continues to grow. Life on Earth has survived large climate changes in the past, but extinctions and major redistribution of species have been associated with many of them. When the human population was small and nomadic, a rise in sea level of a few metres would have had very little effect on Homo sapiens. With the current and growing global population, much of which is concentrated in coastal cities, such a rise in sea level would have a drastic effect on our complex society, especially if the climate were to change as suddenly as it has at times in the past. Equally, it seems likely that as warming continues some areas may experience less precipitation leading to drought. With both rising seas and increasing drought, pressure for human migration could result on a large scale.[55]
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International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics
In July 2007, the International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics (IUGG) adopted a resolution titled “The Urgency of Addressing Climate Change”. In it, the IUGG concurs with the “comprehensive and widely accepted and endorsed scientific assessments carried out by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and regional and national bodies, which have firmly established, on the basis of scientific evidence, that human activities are the primary cause of recent climate change.” They state further that the “continuing reliance on combustion of fossil fuels as the world’s primary source of energy will lead to much higher atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse gasses, which will, in turn, cause significant increases in surface temperature, sea level, ocean acidification, and their related consequences to the environment and society.”[56]
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National Association of Geoscience Teachers
In July 2009, the National Association of Geoscience Teachers[57] (NAGT) adopted a position statement on climate change in which they assert that "Earth's climate is changing [and] "that present warming trends are largely the result of human activities":
NAGT strongly supports and will work to promote education in the science of climate change, the causes and effects of current global warming, and the immediate need for policies and actions that reduce the emission of greenhouse gases
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[edit]Meteorology and oceanography
[edit]American Meteorological Society
The American Meteorological Society (AMS) statement adopted by their council in 2003 said:
Despite the uncertainties noted above, there is adequate evidence from observations and interpretations of climate simulations to conclude that the atmosphere, ocean, and land surface are warming; that humans have significantly contributed to this change; and that further climate change will continue to have important impacts on human societies, on economies, on ecosystems, and on wildlife through the 21st century and beyond. Focusing on the next 30 years, convergence among emission scenarios and model results suggest strongly that increasing air temperatures will reduce snowpack, shift snowmelt timing, reduce crop production and rangeland fertility, and cause continued melting of the ice caps and sea level rise. Important goals for future work include the need to understand the relation of climate at the state and regional level to the patterns of global climate and to reverse the decline in observational networks that are so critical to accurate climate monitoring and prediction.[59]

[edit]Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
The Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society has issued a Statement on Climate Change, wherein they conclude:
Global climate change and global warming are real and observable ... It is highly likely that those human activities that have increased the concentration of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere have been largely responsible for the observed warming since 1950. The warming associated with increases in greenhouse gases originating from human activity is called the enhanced greenhouse effect. The atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide has increased by more than 30% since the start of the industrial age and is higher now than at any time in at least the past 650,000 years. This increase is a direct result of burning fossil fuels, broad-scale deforestation and other human activity.”[60]

[edit]Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences
In November 2005, the Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences (CFCAS) issued a letter to the Prime Minister of Canada stating that
We concur with the climate science assessment of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in 2001 ... We endorse the conclusions of the IPCC assessment that 'There is new and stronger evidence that most of the warming observed over the last 50 years is attributable to human activities'. ... There is increasingly unambiguous evidence of changing climate in Canada and around the world. There will be increasing impacts of climate change on Canada’s natural ecosystems and on our socio-economic activities. Advances in climate science since the 2001 IPCC Assessment have provided more evidence supporting the need for action and development of a strategy for adaptation to projected changes.[61]

[edit]Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
In November 2009, a letter to the Canadian Parliament by The Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society states:
Rigorous international research, including work carried out and supported by the Government of Canada, reveals that greenhouse gases resulting from human activities contribute to the warming of the atmosphere and the oceans and constitute a serious risk to the health and safety of our society, as well as having an impact on all life.[62]
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Royal Meteorological Society (UK)
In February 2007, after the release of the IPCC’s Fourth Assessment Report, the Royal Meteorological Society issued an endorsement of the report. In addition to referring to the IPCC as “world’s best climate scientists”, they stated that climate change is happening as “the result of emissions since industrialization and we have already set in motion the next 50 years of global warming – what we do from now on will determine how worse it will get.”[63]

[edit]World Meteorological Organization
In its Statement at the Twelfth Session of the Conference of the Parties to the U.N. Framework Convention on Climate Change presented on November 15, 2006, the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) confirms the need to “prevent dangerous anthropogenic interference with the climate system.” The WMO concurs that “scientific assessments have increasingly reaffirmed that human activities are indeed changing the composition of the atmosphere, in particular through the burning of fossil fuels for energy production and transportation.” The WMO concurs that “the present atmospheric concentration of CO2 was never exceeded over the past 420,000 years;” and that the IPCC “assessments provide the most authoritative, up-to-date scientific advice.” [64]

[edit]Paleoclimatology
[edit]American Quaternary Association
The American Quaternary Association (AMQUA) has stated
Few credible Scientists now doubt that humans have influenced the documented rise of global temperatures since the Industrial Revolution,” citing “the growing body of evidence that warming of the atmosphere, especially over the past 50 years, is directly impacted by human activity.[65]

[edit]International Union for Quaternary Research
The statement on climate change issued by the International Union for Quaternary Research (INQUA) reiterates the conclusions of the IPCC, and urges all nations to take prompt action in line with the UNFCCC principles.
Human activities are now causing atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse gasses — including carbon dioxide, methane, tropospheric ozone, and nitrous oxide — to rise well above pre-industrial levels….Increases in greenhouse gasses are causing temperatures to rise…The scientific understanding of climate change is now sufficiently clear to justify nations taking prompt action….Minimizing the amount of this carbon dioxide reaching the atmosphere presents a huge challenge but must be a global priority.[66]

Biology and life sciences
Life science organizations have outlined the dangers climate change pose to wildlife.
American Association of Wildlife Veterinarians[67]
American Institute of Biological Sciences
In October 2009, the leaders of 18 US scientific societies and organizations sent an open letter to the United States Senate reaffirming the scientific consensus that climate change is occurring and is primarily caused by human activities. The American Institute of Biological Sciences (AIBS) adopted this letter as their official position statement:[68][69]
The letter goes on to warn of predicted impacts on the United States such as sea level rise and increases in extreme weather events, water scarcity, heat waves, wildfires, and the disturbance of biological systems. It then advocates for a dramatic reduction in emissions of greenhouse gases.
[70]

American Society for Microbiology[71]
Australian Coral Reef Society[72]
Institute of Biology (UK)[73]
Society of American Foresters issued two position statements pertaining to climate change in which they cite the IPCC[74] and the UNFCCC.[75]
The Wildlife Society (international)[76]

Human health
A number of health organizations have warned about the numerous negative health effects of global warming
American Academy of Pediatrics[77]
American College of Preventive Medicine[78]
American Medical Association[79]
American Public Health Association[80]
Australian Medical Association in 2004[81] and in 2008[82]
World Federation of Public Health Associations[83]
World Health Organization[84]
There is now widespread agreement that the earth is warming, due to emissions of greenhouse gases caused by human activity. It is also clear that current trends in energy use, development, and population growth will lead to continuing – and more severe – climate change.
The changing climate will inevitably affect the basic requirements for maintaining health: clean air and water, sufficient food and adequate shelter. Each year, about 800,000 people die from causes attributable to urban air pollution, 1.8 million from diarrhoea resulting from lack of access to clean water supply, sanitation, and poor hygiene, 3.5 million from malnutrition and approximately 60,000 in natural disasters. A warmer and more variable climate threatens to lead to higher levels of some air pollutants, increase transmission of diseases through unclean water and through contaminated food, to compromise agricultural production in some of the least developed countries, and increase the hazards of extreme weather.


Miscellaneous
A number of other national scientific societies have also endorsed the opinion of the IPCC:
American Astronomical Society[85]
American Statistical Association[86]
Engineers Australia (The Institution of Engineers Australia)[87]
International Association for Great Lakes Research[88]
Institute of Professional Engineers New Zealand[89]
Scientific opinion on climate change - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

are they all wrong???..
....nah ...you're wrong...you know who you are.
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are they all wrong?
Obviously all those scientists are just trying to protect their lucrative grants, and high-flying lifestyles. I bet most climatologists have at least two Porsches in their driveways. And everybody knows how scientists are such conformists, I'm sure none of them have seriously tried to *disprove* the consensus about anthopogenic climate change.
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