Strange, I've never heard of anyone being bullied for their form and I would imagine they would call first with a friendly reminder. The only thing I've seen is advertisements to send it in.
I've experienced it first hand and so have a lot of other people. What you imagine is not what actually happens. They become nasty and threatening.
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Originally Posted by Kosh
As for leaks of info, well, with any department that hires humans, your always going to have a few bad apples. They'll be prosecuted under the appropriate Act (unlike Ministers who seem to get away with anything). For Stats Can it would be the Statistics Act.
They're not prosecuted, They were acting within the law as it stood. That's why some people have been taken to court over not filling out the forms--the creeps made good on their threats.
All any government really needs to know is how many people reside in their country. How many bathrooms I have, ranks right up their with how many dumps I take. It's none of their damn business.
i just wanted to point out that a canadian census has NEVER asked how many bathrooms it's citizens have.
it was a talking point put out there by the cons, and unfortunately people ran with it.
i understand points on both sides of the argument on whether we need a census, but the whole bathroom debacle is yet another example of the conservatives willingness to mislead and misinform Canadians. and sadly skews the whole debate.
IMO there should be a short form that is mandatory to fill out, accompanied by a longer form that would be voluntary. i agree that threatening people with jail time is much too extreme.
IMO there should be a short form that is mandatory to fill out, accompanied by a longer form that would be voluntary. i agree that threatening people with jail time is much too extreme.
That is exactly what the Conservatives want to do but some folks seem to be in a tizzy about the the long form being voluntary without threats of jail time. To hear the Liberals carry on you'd think Harper wanted to scrap all the census. That is not the case at all and it was never even suggested.
That is exactly what the Conservatives want to do but some folks seem to be in a tizzy about the the long form being voluntary without threats of jail time. To hear the Liberals carry on you'd think Harper wanted to scrap all the census. That is not the case at all and it was never even suggested.
We don't seem to learn from other's mistakes:
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OTTAWA — While Canada debates the merits of a compulsory long-form census, its neighbours to the south have already decided a national voluntary survey doesn't work.
At the behest of Congress, The U.S. Census Bureau conducted an experiment in 2003 using its compulsory American Community Survey to see what would happen if some people were given the choice of filling it out.
The result? The data was degraded so much, fixing it would be too expensive. The idea was quickly abandoned.
"It showed that for our survey, it would have been a lot more money to do the survey, and so Congress took that into account and decided they would keep it as a mandatory survey," said David Raglin, a senior official with the U.S. Census Bureau.
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I had read that previously, it isn't a one for one comparison even though it is being represented as though it were. First the US has 10x our population and second the short form of the census will remain compulsory, it is only the long form that will be voluntary so this is not a direct comparison.
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