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Old Apr 20th, 2010, 08:22 PM   #561
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"I don't have guilt Macfury, I have compassion. "

A typical wishy-washy bleeding-heart liberal cop out, mrj. You should learn a lesson from both Macfury and Scrooge. Social Darwinism at its finest.

"The clerk, in letting Scrooge’s nephew out, had let two other people in. They were portly gentlemen, pleasant to behold, and now stood, with their hats off, in Scrooge’s office. They had books and papers in their hands, and bowed to him. ’Scrooge and Marley’s, I believe,’ said one of the gentlemen, referring to his list. ‘Have I the pleasure of addressing Mr Scrooge, or Mr Marley?’

‘Mr Marley has been dead these seven years,’ Scrooge replied. ‘He died seven years ago, this very night.’

‘We have no doubt his liberality is well represented by his surviving partner,’ said the gentleman, presenting his credentials.

It certainly was, for they had been two kindred spirits. At the ominous word liberality, Scrooge frowned, and shook his head, and handed the credentials back.

‘At this festive season of the year, Mr Scrooge,’ said the gentleman, taking up a pen, ‘it is more than usually desirable that we should make some slight provision for the Poor and destitute, who suffer greatly at the present time. Many thousands are in want of common necessaries; hundreds of thousands are in want of common comforts, sir.’

‘Are there no prisons?’ asked Scrooge.

‘Plenty of prisons,’ said the gentleman, laying down the pen again.

‘And the Union workhouses.’ demanded Scrooge. ‘Are they still in operation?’

‘They are. Still,’ returned the gentleman,’ I wish I could say they were not.’

‘The Treadmill and the Poor Law are in full vigour, then?’ said Scrooge.

‘Both very busy, sir.’

‘Oh. I was afraid, from what you said at first, that something had occurred to stop them in their useful course,’ said Scrooge. ‘I’m very glad to hear it.’

‘Under the impression that they scarcely furnish Christian cheer of mind or body to the multitude,’ returned the gentleman, ‘a few of us are endeavouring to raise a fund to buy the Poor some meat and drink, and means of warmth. We choose this time, because it is a time, of all others, when Want is keenly felt, and Abundance rejoices. What shall I put you down for?’

‘Nothing!’ Scrooge replied.

‘You wish to be anonymous?’

‘I wish to be left alone,’ said Scrooge. ‘Since you ask me what I wish, gentlemen, that is my answer. I don’t make merry myself at Christmas and I can’t afford to make idle people merry. I help to support the establishments I have mentioned-they cost enough; and those who are badly off must go there.’

‘Many can’t go there; and many would rather die.’

‘If they would rather die,’ said Scrooge, ‘they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population. Besides-excuse me-I don’t know that.’

‘But you might know it,’ observed the gentleman.

‘It’s not my business,’ Scrooge returned. ‘It’s enough for a man to understand his own business, and not to interfere with other people’s. Mine occupies me constantly. Good afternoon, gentlemen!’"
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Old Apr 20th, 2010, 09:37 PM   #562
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I don't have guilt Macfury, I have compassion.
Then you must go forth and be compassionate with other who share your idea of compassion. Again, I have no problem with you offering your compassion dollars to others--I only wish to spend my compassion dollars in the way I see fit, and not to be drawn into your compassion program against my will.
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Old Apr 20th, 2010, 09:39 PM   #563
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Scrooge. ...
The Ghosts understood that Scrooge needed to be convinced to extend compassion where he himself saw a need--to those closest to him.

They did not remove the money from his wallet, pool it with that of other unwilling donors, and send it to Scotland.
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Old Apr 20th, 2010, 09:42 PM   #564
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Then you must go forth and be compassionate with other who share your idea of compassion. Again, I have no problem with you offering your compassion dollars to others--I only wish to spend my compassion dollars in the way I see fit, and not to be drawn into your compassion program against my will.
Living in our society must be painful for you.
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Old Apr 20th, 2010, 09:46 PM   #565
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Living in our society must be painful for you.
Less and less so each day, as I help to remake it to my own tastes.
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Old Apr 20th, 2010, 09:46 PM   #566
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Less and less so each day, as I help to remake it to my own tastes.
Good luck with that.
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Old Apr 20th, 2010, 09:48 PM   #567
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Good luck with that.
mrjimmy, if you like the direction in which Canadian society is headed, and I like it too, how can that be bad?
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Old Apr 20th, 2010, 09:51 PM   #568
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mrjimmy, if you like the direction in which Canadian society is headed, and I like it too, how can that be bad?
What way is Canadian society headed Macfury?
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What way is Canadian society headed Macfury?
Why the way that infuriates me apparently.
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Why the way that infuriates me apparently.
Does it infuriate you Macfury?
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