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Old May 1st, 2009, 09:51 AM   #91
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Please illuminate a link between war and pork consumption...
The secret documents regarding this link were lost in the collapse of WTC-7.
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Old May 1st, 2009, 10:02 AM   #92
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I think there a LOT more countries (other than those that are at war with the US) that are not (yet) home to any cases of H1N1.
Map: Swine flu cases worldwide - Swine flu - MSNBC.com
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Swine Flu: The predictable pandemic? - New Scientist
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Old May 1st, 2009, 11:21 AM   #94
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Couple of observations:

1. It has been widely publicized that one cannot catch the virus by eating pork.

2. That makes the fjnmusic's observation legitimate and certainly not "nonsense".
exactly my point... so why we even discuss or hi jack the thread with nonsense..
lets keep this topic/thread on track... and clean with out any religious or nationality issues..

other than it is a Mexican Flu ( source of origin ) ( removed swine - hence they found it did not come from that, so it safe to go back to petting and kissing back bacon. )
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Old May 1st, 2009, 11:29 AM   #95
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First, it isn't a Pandemic because only a handful of people have it. Pandemics are like millions of people get it, and at least tens of thousands die of it. This is like a thousand people have it, and a handful actually die of it, while even more have it and die of getting soem disease caused by filth in unclean medical facilities.

The doomers have been waiting a century for another "Spanish Flu". However, we actually know what causes the Flu these days - whereas back then, they had no idea what a virus was, never saw a virus, and had no idea what DNA was. The only reason why this stuff spreads these days is because of the filthy environments. We have many cases of airplanes which distribute some of the most disgusting diseases because the "recession" caused "cuts to service" which forced the people that actually clean the planes into the unemployment lines, so that CEOs can cash in large on bonuses. We have the same thing with anything else that is public access: filthy hospitals filled to the brim with germs and contagion where some CEO is scoring a huge half million a year while firing the janitors, and the same with buses, trains, etc.

As well, we now know that airplanes are loading up with low quality water, quite often infested with E Coli, because instead of investing in proper filtering and processing in third world airports, it's all about pumping in some Monteczuma's Revenge for people to drink. The perfect drink for someone dehydrated with flu.

If this is a "pandemic", it's because we caused it by not enforcing the regulations, and our neglect to insist on the fundamental right to clean water for all of the people in the world - even though we insist that all countries supply oil to the United States at the lowest possible cost.
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Old May 1st, 2009, 11:50 AM   #96
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As well, we now know that airplanes are loading up with low quality water, quite often infested with E Coli, because instead of investing in proper filtering and processing in third world airports, it's all about pumping in some Monteczuma's Revenge for people to drink. The perfect drink for someone dehydrated with flu.
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That is a pretty ignorant statement to make. The Aeroport in Mexico City is actually quite a nice one. Better than many in Canada, to be sure.
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First, it isn't a Pandemic because only a handful of people have it. Pandemics are like millions of people get it, and at least tens of thousands die of it. This is like a thousand people have it, and a handful actually die of it, while even more have it and die of getting soem disease caused by filth in unclean medical facilities.

The doomers have been waiting a century for another "Spanish Flu". However, we actually know what causes the Flu these days - whereas back then, they had no idea what a virus was, never saw a virus, and had no idea what DNA was. The only reason why this stuff spreads these days is because of the filthy environments. We have many cases of airplanes which distribute some of the most disgusting diseases because the "recession" caused "cuts to service" which forced the people that actually clean the planes into the unemployment lines, so that CEOs can cash in large on bonuses. We have the same thing with anything else that is public access: filthy hospitals filled to the brim with germs and contagion where some CEO is scoring a huge half million a year while firing the janitors, and the same with buses, trains, etc.

As well, we now know that airplanes are loading up with low quality water, quite often infested with E Coli, because instead of investing in proper filtering and processing in third world airports, it's all about pumping in some Monteczuma's Revenge for people to drink. The perfect drink for someone dehydrated with flu.

If this is a "pandemic", it's because we caused it by not enforcing the regulations, and our neglect to insist on the fundamental right to clean water for all of the people in the world - even though we insist that all countries supply oil to the United States at the lowest possible cost.
Your definition of a pandemic is actually incorrect. No-one has to die in order for a disease outbreak to be considered a pandemic. It also doesn't have to be wide-spread.

Definition:

According to the World Health Organization (WHO), a pandemic can start when three conditions have been met:[1]

1. Emergence of a disease new to a population.
2. Agents infect humans, causing serious illness.
3. Agents spread easily and sustainably among humans.

A disease or condition is not a pandemic merely because it is widespread or kills many people; it must also be infectious. For instance, cancer is responsible for many deaths but is not considered a pandemic, because the disease is not infectious or contagious.
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I agree. Everyone now knows it as the Mexican flu, so trying to rechristen it for PR purposes at this late stage is counterproductive to public safety,
Really? Outside of this thread, I'd never seen/read/heard anyone call it "Mexican Flu". I always heard H1N1 on NPR, and Swine everywhere else.
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Really? Outside of this thread, I'd never seen/read/heard anyone call it "Mexican Flu". I always heard H1N1 on NPR, and Swine everywhere else.
I've seen all of those scanning the news headlines.
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Nassssty - what might have been....and if it hooks up with H5 might still be sometime in the future..

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