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Old May 25th, 2007, 05:55 PM   #1
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No Driver's License - What's the big deal?

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Lars, the point of not having one is that I hate to drive. Besides, I've driven illegally before and if an emergency arose, I'd drive again. Few cops would ticket you if it were an emergency. Also, it costs money to have one, non? Don't you have to renew it every 5 years?
I'll stick with my HC thanks.
Yikes! With that attitude, I would hope the cops would come down hard on you. Hate to drive, but drive illegal when needed? Don't want to spend money on a driver's license? Just what we need - uninsured, untrained drivers on the road. Do us all favour and get a driver's license. Or stay off the roads completely, emergency or not.

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take a pill buddy. if I need to get someone to the hospital I will.
Who says I'm untrained?
Besides, I've seen some of you "trained" drivers and nearly been hit by them.
1) Driving is a priviledge, not a right. That means that you can't just "choose" to drive when you feel the need, emergency or not.

2) If you don't regularly drive, you are not going to be as good of a driver as the majority of people on the road.

3) Using the "I've seen worst drivers than me WITH a license" is a cheap shot at best. The difference is they are LICENSED to be on the road, and you are not.
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Old May 25th, 2007, 06:09 PM   #2
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I'm with gt on this... if you don't have a license, stay off the road! If you need to go to the hospital, call 911... or get a cab. I honestly hope that you get a huge fine the next time you drive without a license... you're just endangering others needlessly.
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Old May 25th, 2007, 06:23 PM   #3
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No license, no driving pure and simple. And if you do, they certainly should throw the book at you, emergency or not. I mean really, at what $10 a year or so to hold one, you can't afford it? I doubt that is the case. Your attitude is not rational in any way.
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Old May 25th, 2007, 06:27 PM   #5
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I think this comes down to "emergency", which is quite subjective. I agree with the 911/cab comment but some -- very rare -- emergencies require more speed. How many people would not break certain laws and potentially put others at risk for an "emergency"?

Still, I think that someone who makes this choice should take their lumps if caught (pay all fines) or if in an accident (plead guilty) and not try to wiggle out of things like so many do with speeding.

GT's 3 is, to me, right on the mark, though. Trying to pass off such a decision by appeal to a vague concept of some portion of law abiding people not doing so well is a weak defence.
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Old May 25th, 2007, 06:59 PM   #6
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Scary I'm in agreement with GT on this issue.

The minimum purpose of passing a driver examination is certify you understand the motor vehicle act and regulations.

You may posses the skills of steering and braking, heck you may even know how to use a clutch. How wonderful!

As a result of not having a driver's license, you do not have public liability or public damage car insurance.

If you had passed your driver's examination you would know that it is a serious matter to drive a vehicle upon a public highway without valid insurance coverage for that vehicle.

Ignorance is bliss I guess.
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Whether you agree or not, "Ignorance" is not a legal defense.
If you can't afford the very minimal charge for Government approved Identification, then you deserve the penalty.
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Driving is a skill not a privilege or a right.

Having a licence allows one to exercise that skill on public roads ( you do not have to have a licence to drive on private property. ).

I'm a licenced pilot but my licence is not current.
It does not mean I do not have the skill to fly a plane in an emergency and to do so safely.

One can get rusty and so take extra care but the skill does not disappear.

If I'm in a plane where my skills are needed of course I would fly the plane.

I'm QUITE sure Robert makes similar judgement calls as we all do in speeding, rolling through stop signs and driving without our licence in the car.

We get caught, he gets caught - there are proscribed penalties which again I'm quite sure he would honour.

I've driven 60 miles at over 160 k in an emergency and would have loved to attract a cop....none to be had and lucky we did drive at that speed as it turned out.

When confronted by an emergency one exercises best judgement...not is this legal or not - that's waaaaaaaaaay down the list.
Would you not break a window to get into a burning house....that's break and enter.

At least in flying we could subtly "discourage" those would be pilots we knew were a danger to themselves and others so they never got their licence.

I would concur that having a licence is unfortunately no indicator of skill...tho for a new driver these days it does mean a certain amount of persistence, training, discretion and testing has occurred.

A drivers licence is a choice...congrats Robert for lowering your carbon footprint.
....even better good judgement.
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Driving is a skill not a privilege or a right.

Having a licence allows one to exercise that skill on public roads ( you do not have to have a licence to drive on private property. ).

I'm a licenced pilot but my licence is not current.
It does not mean I do not have the skill to fly a plane in an emergency and to do so safely.

One can get rusty and so take extra care but the skill does not disappear.

If I'm in a plane where my skills are needed of course I would fly the plane.

I'm QUITE sure Robert makes similar judgement calls as we all do in speeding, rolling through stop signs and driving without our licence in the car.

We get caught, he gets caught - there are proscribed penalties which again I'm quite sure he would honour.

I've driven 60 miles at over 160 k in an emergency and would have loved to attract a cop....none to be had and lucky we did drive at that speed as it turned out.

When confronted by an emergency one exercises best judgement...not is this legal or not - that's waaaaaaaaaay down the list.
Would you not break a window to get into a burning house....that's break and enter.

At least in flying we could subtly "discourage" those would be pilots we knew were a danger to themselves and others so they never got their licence.

I would concur that having a licence is unfortunately no indicator of skill...tho for a new driver these days it does mean a certain amount of persistence, training, discretion and testing has occurred.

A drivers licence is a choice...congrats Robert for lowering your carbon footprint.
....even better good judgement.
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