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Old Oct 11th, 2006, 05:31 PM   #1
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Apple 5th Ave. Store Offensive?

Good grief

I hope this is not for real.
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Old Oct 11th, 2006, 05:52 PM   #2
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from what I recall, this was a not so hot topic sometime ago. In fact, it was even discussed here.

As the artcle stated, it does sound like the report was written some time back. The store has been open since May, so I would have expected - if any - some demonstrations since then. But there thankfully were none, only a true demonstration of design: I love that entrance.
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Old Oct 11th, 2006, 09:41 PM   #3
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Although this is really something out of nothing...



Isn't there an Apple on the right side of that building?
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Old Oct 11th, 2006, 09:53 PM   #4
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That could be that slab from 2001:A Space Oddessy.
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Old Oct 12th, 2006, 07:59 AM   #5
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Good grief

I hope this is not for real.
Unfortunately it is real, at least in some people's minds. Before it was unveiled, it was covered in black( plywood, I assume), it was a "cube" and it was being referred to as an "Apple Mecca". It does take the Religion of Peace time to get worked up. Remember, the violent demonstrations against the Danish Mohammed cartoons only took off a couple months after their original publication. It took time to make the grand tour of the Middle East to get people riled up. And of course, the Pope's remarks quoting a 14th century byzantine ruler who was under attack by Islamic invaders. It takes little, it seems, to spark protests.
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Old Oct 12th, 2006, 08:12 AM   #6
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This is going too far! I am starting to get annoyed with these people who have nothing better to do than stir the religious pot. Being a tolerant person, I can now begin to see just how backlashes occur. If these types of accusations and thinned skinned knee-jerk reactions continue, it will create an air of distaste.

It reminds me of the story of the boy who cried wolf, it will not be taken seriously and will be resented by some.
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Old Oct 12th, 2006, 08:26 AM   #7
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Special Dispatch Series - No. 1315
October 11, 2006 No.1315

Islamist Websites Monitor No. 5

On October 10, 2006, an Islamic website posted a message alerting Muslims to what it claims is a new insult to Islam. According to the message, the cube-shaped building which is being constructed in New York City, on Fifth Avenue between 58th and 59th Streets in midtown Manhattan, is clearly meant to provoke Muslims. The fact that the building resembles the Ka'ba (see picture below), is called "Apple Mecca," is intended to be open 24 hours a day like the Ka'ba, and moreover, contains bars selling alcoholic beverages, constitutes a blatant insult to Islam. The message urges Muslims to spread this alert, in hope that "Muslims will be able to stop the project."
http://memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD131506

for an online bulletin to not mention the link to the "Islamic website" seems more than a tad suspect to me

looks like "forces" are hard at work to keep tensions high

interesting contradiction or outright lie?
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Genius Bars in the Apple Stores don't serve alcohol, and you've got more than enough discrepencies to wonder if the (anonymous) writer was submitting a bit of stale satire.
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lets pull back and have a look a this man behind the curtain;

http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/...ticle_continue

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Memri's purpose, according to its website, is to bridge the language gap between the west - where few speak Arabic - and the Middle East, by "providing timely translations of Arabic, Farsi, and Hebrew media".

Despite these high-minded statements, several things make me uneasy whenever I'm asked to look at a story circulated by Memri. First of all, it's a rather mysterious organisation. Its website does not give the names of any people to contact, not even an office address.

The reason for this secrecy, according to a former employee, is that "they don't want suicide bombers walking through the door on Monday morning" (Washington Times, June 20).

This strikes me as a somewhat over-the-top precaution for an institute that simply wants to break down east-west language barriers.

The second thing that makes me uneasy is that the stories selected by Memri for translation follow a familiar pattern: either they reflect badly on the character of Arabs or they in some way further the political agenda of Israel. I am not alone in this unease.

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Evidence from Memri's website also casts doubt on its non-partisan status. Besides supporting liberal democracy, civil society, and the free market, the institute also emphasises "the continuing relevance of Zionism to the Jewish people and to the state of Israel".

That is what its website used to say, but the words about Zionism have now been deleted. The original page, however, can still be found in internet archives.

The reason for Memri's air of secrecy becomes clearer when we look at the people behind it. The co-founder and president of Memri, and the registered owner of its website, is an Israeli called Yigal Carmon.

Mr - or rather, Colonel - Carmon spent 22 years in Israeli military intelligence and later served as counter-terrorism adviser to two Israeli prime ministers, Yitzhak Shamir and Yitzhak Rabin.

Retrieving another now-deleted page from the archives of Memri's website also throws up a list of its staff. Of the six people named, three - including Col Carmon - are described as having worked for Israeli intelligence.

Among the other three, one served in the Israeli army's Northern Command Ordnance Corps, one has an academic background, and the sixth is a former stand-up comedian
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This is going too far! I am starting to get annoyed with these people who have nothing better to do than stir the religious pot.
Watch out.

It's all about respect. I don't think that any action against Apple could ever be justified. Black is a color used in much of their packaging and pop so this is totally inline with what they do. But one must always think of who is possibly being targeted with discourteous actions/behavior. But, again, we are taking about temporary glass covering which has long been removed.
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You'd think they would be honored that the Apple Store is similar in architectural design to their ka'ba.

Best computers in the world... One of their holiest spots in the world...

I dunno, seems like a win win situation to me. Even if it wasn't intended to be that way originally.
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Old Oct 12th, 2006, 10:14 AM   #10
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[QUOTE=MACSPECTRUM]where there's smoke there's fire
and if there isn't any fire, someone will make it/QUOTE]

People don"t have to make it up. There is enough real stuff out there. For example:
http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/myfox...Y&pageId=1.1.1

Also a new prison is being built in the U.K. with all the toilets conforming to Islamic dictates( I guess they don't want to upset anybody) and a cemetary in the U.K that was expanding and where all the people were to be buried facing a specific way, according to Islamic dictates , until there was an uproar about it. (Less that three percent of the population is Muslim and many of them around London.) There have also been cases in London where Muslim cab drivers have refused to take bind passanger with seeing eye dogs, including one from a company under contract the the BBC. Some Muslims, it seems, are always finding something they can object to.

Oh, and about the taxi drivers in Minneapolis not driving people with visible alcohol in their possession. A local Iman said they, the Muslims, can't drink it but there is nothing in the Koran about not transporting others who possess it. It still hadn't stopped the taxi drivers though.
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