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Old Oct 5th, 2006, 11:05 AM   #1
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NATO Now In Charge in Afghanistan

For those who believe that this is still an American-led mission and, therefore, morally tainted, you will be happy to note that NATO is taking over:

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NATO assumed military control of eastern Afghanistan, taking over from the U.S.-led coalition that toppled the Taliban in 2001 and completing an expansion of the alliance's mission across the whole country.
And, NATO's mission? Warmaking? NO:

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NATO's main remit is reconstruction
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Old Oct 5th, 2006, 11:24 AM   #2
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Whitewash doesn't cover up a very suspect campaign resulting from US failure to complete and US diversion of resources to the idiocy going on in Iraq which has it's own lessons of violence begetting violence.
Had the Al Qaeda problem been pursued in full - including the Pakistan aspect then it's likely the situation as it exists would not be menacing and the world support would have been there.....it was and the US squandered it.

I suggest instead of trying to justify military intervention by any means you have a look at the PBS Frontline special of The Return of the Taliban and THEN tell me this is a winnable situation and that we are getting the whole story. In my mind we are not.

For many of us who watched in dsmay and had friends killed in Vietnam this is a a smaller but similarly "unwinnable" conflict.
I do NOT see this as case like Bosnia which was clearly a NATO mandate and is slowly moving towards some resolution.

Afghanistan needs to be settled by the regional players.....NATO is NOT a regional player.
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Whitewash doesn't cover up a very suspect campaign resulting from US failure to complete and US diversion of resources to the idiocy going on in Iraq which has it's own lessons of violence begetting violence.
IronMac, you will never change the minds of those here who believe it is a US mission. They are blind to any other opinion and so set in there beliefs that you cannot change their views.

You can lead a horse to water, but . . .

Perhaps we should establish a gun registry in Afghanistan?

That would stop all the violence.

It certainly worked well here, didn't it?
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Whether WE or, NATO, believe it is US-led or otherwise is irrelevant. The question is, how does it look to the people who's hearts and minds we are supposed to be winning?
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poppy production in Afghanistan is at higher level than under Taliban
ya think maybe it has something to do with the violence?

our troops are being put into harms way for no good reason
i don't want to see more wounded and casualties NOT in defence of Canada

bring 'em home
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MS, you are not supporting our troops...
Now get your head back up your behind and smell the Con effluence....
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Hey, can't wait until next February when an American General will be in charge of both NATO and American forces....

Now, wonder when the Afghanis will take control of their country?
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For many of us who watched in dsmay and had friends killed in Vietnam this is a a smaller but similarly "unwinnable" conflict.
I do NOT see this as case like Bosnia which was clearly a NATO mandate and is slowly moving towards some resolution.

Afghanistan needs to be settled by the regional players.....NATO is NOT a regional player.
It's unwinnable if we do not try every option and cut out.

As for regional players, which do you trust? The Iranians? The Russians? The Pakistanis? The Chinese?
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Whether WE or, NATO, believe it is US-led or otherwise is irrelevant.
It's relevant because a lot of the peaceniks point to US leadership as justification for their "bring them home" campaign.
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Hey, can't wait until next February when an American General will be in charge of both NATO and American forces....

Now, wonder when the Afghanis will take control of their country?
I'm surprised any of you peaceniks can even think that far ahead.
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