Boys try to join girls' teams following human-rights ruling
As two Winnipeg sisters find out Tuesday if they've made the boys' hockey team at their high school, their recent human-rights victory has spurred boys to try out for girls' sports teams.
Morris Glimcher, executive director of the Manitoba High Schools Athletic Association, said Tuesday that several requests from boys wanting to play on girls' teams started coming shortly after the ruling was handed down on Friday.
"We've had five requests already from boys saying: 'In the past, we haven't been eligible. But my school doesn't have a boys' team and we have a girls' team and we'd like to play,' " Glimcher said Tuesday.
"Now that the rule has come down, I guess what they're saying [is] if it's gender equity, then let's make it gender equity. And that's the general theme of the calls that I've been getting."
Glimcher said the five requests came from boys who want to play on girls' volleyball, basketball, curling and fastball teams. He said all of the requests so far have been serious requests from boys or their coaches.
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"If we get four guys or five guys going out for the [girls'] basketball team, there's four or five females that won't make the team — and I dare say a bunch of other ones aren't going to compete — and we could end up with some female teams being made up of mostly men.
"We worked very, very hard to promote and build up female participation in sports," Glimcher added.
"Everything that our organization has done … is based gender-equal. And if we all of a sudden get an influx of males participating, it could affect female participation and that would be a travesty."
I found that particularly amusing. Merit-based or gender-based? Right now it seems merit-based for girls and gender-based for boys. Maybe everywhere should be forced to have three teams: the best, the boys and the girls.
In the very least, more people will begin to realise that when some people talk about equality, they shouldn't assume that the end result will be reasonable, fair or even equitable.
When the boys' and girls' teams get equal equipment, sponsors, ice time, coaches, training and prizes, then we'll call it gender neutral, okay?
I thought this was about not enough players to make a team?
Maybe if women were willing to help out, they could pool their resources together and get those things they needed... including enough girls to make a team. I mean, there are women who own businesses who could sponsor, right? Who could gather resources to make their own facilities, right? To coach? Prizes? Etc.?
Oh, wait... let me guess--the men hold the wallet, right?
I thought this was about not enough players to make a team?
Maybe if women were willing to help out, they could pool their resources together and get those things they needed... including enough girls to make a team. I mean, there are women who own businesses who could sponsor, right? Who could gather resources to make their own facilities, right? To coach? Prizes? Etc.?
Oh, wait... let me guess--the men hold the wallet, right?
Quit making excuses. Men aren't the problem.
Don't the guys have all sorts of fundraisers to get new equipment and stuff too? Can the girls not have fundraisers?
Don't the guys have all sorts of fundraisers to get new equipment and stuff too? Can the girls not have fundraisers?
No, MacDaddy, unfortunately when women wanted the right to vote, they opted to give up all fundraising privileges in order to partake in the electoral process.
Wow, has MannyPWife not been 'kind' to you lately, or what?
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No, MacDaddy, unfortunately when women wanted the right to vote, they opted to give up the right for fundraisers entirely in order to have the right to partake in the electoral process.
The notion that equal outcomes is equality completely ignores inputs (and some basic bits of reality). But it's okay because competitive sports are fundamentally not 'equal' so they'll have to go.
In 1998 this commission said it was fair discrimination when they ruled against a boy regarding ringette. Apparently in ringette boys can only play goal once they turn 14 and he wanted to play other positions. One reason given by the commission was that boys develop faster by 14 and would have an unfair advantage. Seems hypocritical to me. They were ask to explain this on radio today but of course wouldn't.
Good for the goose, not so good for the gander?
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