okay i just have one question... this is more relevant than the most ridiculous bickering from both parties in that little tiff...
for the purpose of this argument i will adress the the all the people who think AdamS' ad as misleading, as party A and AdamS' party as Party B.
i've noticed heavy bombardment from party A on party B on his thread. what would be called defamation? no? party B has chosen not to make a complaint to the moderators about the post being ruined.
to all party A members: I'm pretty sure i can call you all out for extreme hostility on what you call "price policing" why don't we generalise this term into what it really is...and what you are all guilty of. "ad policing". Am i wrong to say that price policing is also ad policing? what's the bottom line. i've taken swift criticism for "ad policing", and now i follow the unwritten rules of PM'ing the person about my feelings on their ad. why don't you practice what you preach?
To AdamS, (not party B): Why haven't you asked a moderator to delete the posts? or why haven't you deleted this post and started a clean one?
i will not address the issue of the Conflict in AdamS' post, it is not my place. ( do i sound like the UN?). I am only addressing the attitude and behaviour of the participants in the C.I.A.P. ()
I send a note to the ehMac admins this morning after I read that I was called a "dick" by someone in one of the posts. I didn't ask them to delete any posts, true to my word, I only asked them to either...
a) Delete my ad if it was in violation of rules or policies set forth by ehMac
or
b) If not, then just to please weigh in on the topic as it was turning into a flame war.
At the end of the day, I'm just a guy trying to sell a computer. I have a 16 rating on eBay, 100% positive feedback, and have been buying & selling online for years. I apologize if people were mislead, confused, or insulted somehow by my ad, but really, that's how I think it should appear, and it appears I'm in the green as far as ehMac admins are concerned.
Misleading? No. Optimal clarity? No. Is that the standard now?
Are people encouraged to patrol ads in which the "and" clause will be interpreted differently (mistakenly by assumption) but completely clarified in the description? Who would make an offer without reading any further than a (mistakenly) misinterpreted title? The seller's first response could have been more polite, but why not PM such a comment so as not to publicly ad-patrol?
PMs were the way to go on this one, and that doesn't mean the PMee follows your advice. It just means that you've had your say to relevant party.
Don't feel bad AdamS, these are the same sad clowns who have nothing better to do than crap all over for sale items that they have no intention of buying anyway.
If they can't comprehend the difference between the two items you're selling from the thread title then maybe they should go back to the 3rd grade for a refresher on basic English.
It's always something on here, if it's not price police it's some joker weighing in with his or her unwanted and irrelevant opinion. This used to be a good place to hang out to learn about Macs and generally it had a good sense of community. Now it seems to be rife with price police and people who think shouting you down because they don't agree with you passes for intelligent discourse.
For what it's worth, I was able to "decipher" what your were selling and was immediately able to discern that the 2 GB of RAM were available at an additional cost. I guess that makes me Columbo. Or maybe just someone who can read. You decide.
Don't feel bad AdamS, these are the same sad clowns who have nothing better to do than crap all over for sale items that they have no intention of buying anyway.
If they can't comprehend the difference between the two items you're selling from the thread title then maybe they should go back to the 3rd grade for a refresher on basic English.
It's always something on here, if it's not price police it's some joker weighing in with his or her unwanted and irrelevant opinion. This used to be a good place to hang out to learn about Macs and generally it had a good sense of community. Now it seems to be rife with price police and people who think shouting you down because they don't agree with you passes for intelligent discourse.
For what it's worth, I was able to "decipher" what your were selling and was immediately able to discern that the 2 GB of RAM were available at an additional cost. I guess that makes me Columbo. Or maybe just someone who can read. You decide.
Don't feel bad AdamS, these are the same sad clowns who have nothing better to do than crap all over for sale items that they have no intention of buying anyway.
If they can't comprehend the difference between the two items you're selling from the thread title then maybe they should go back to the 3rd grade for a refresher on basic English.
It's always something on here, if it's not price police it's some joker weighing in with his or her unwanted and irrelevant opinion. This used to be a good place to hang out to learn about Macs and generally it had a good sense of community. Now it seems to be rife with price police and people who think shouting you down because they don't agree with you passes for intelligent discourse.
For what it's worth, I was able to "decipher" what your were selling and was immediately able to discern that the 2 GB of RAM were available at an additional cost. I guess that makes me Columbo. Or maybe just someone who can read. You decide.
I guess all good things must come to an end.
Jerry
okay i'm sorry now i have to say something. Outcast: i'm sorry but you are wrong to to make such a bold statement to question people's language skills, clearly anyone who has been through grade 3 english knows that an ad should sell what it says it will sell. (so this ad is for people who read the SUN newspaper)
here's an example. you look at a futureshop ad or a bestbuy ad and you see a computer for sale for $999, now thats misleading no? because when you go to pay for it, you need 1700 bucks, and then you get the 700 back in a rebate. right. so the point is. the ad may seem misleading, but the fact is in the end you really ARE getting what the ad says. for the price the ad says.
now if you think that anyone who interprets an ad that says a $X computer with these specs as the title, but that fact is, that's not what you are getting for price X, and you think that it is the READERS fault for reading what it says. then i think it is YOU who needs to go back to grade 3 english.
i hope one day you buy something for a price and realise it's not what the ad said, and then tell yourself you need to go back to grade 3.
now AdamS' ad DOES clarify that the ram is an extra option. and what was advertised is not what is truly being sold. np one read "wrong", and all of us read further to actually figure out the difference. you are wrong to judge people's reading skills and how much of the ad they all read. your problem is price policing not proper ad making ettiquette. you need to keep that beef on your price policing thread.
i hope i was as neutral as possible. i do not want to take an obvious stand on this issue, even though there is no such thing as un-biased imho. but i just thought what you said was totally out of place because you have a different beef. no hard feelings but i'm trying to keep this straight and clear, that the problem here is not ad crappers. rather how people are dealing with conflict of interest here on ehmac.
two other things, the people who you just bashed for ad crapping are ones who would defend you on ad policing. also. you even used the word "decipher" when you figured out the difference in the ad and the title. even though it was in quotations, it says something doesn't it?
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