NDP move towards Febuary election

ravijo · Nov 9th, 2005, 05:37 PM

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/natio...ion051109.html

I would like to focus this thread to talk about issues, because I can't really stand us bickering about personalities. In my opinion you should vote, and be represented on issues and values. So please, if you want to call Jack a pompous twit, or Steven swine, or Paul an affluent pig, or Gilles an opportunistic nut... do so elsewhere.

MACSPECTRUM · Nov 9th, 2005, 05:51 PM

1. health care
2. economy

rest takes care of itself

Dr.G. · Nov 9th, 2005, 06:04 PM

Michael, throw in education and the environment and we are in agreement.

SINC · Nov 9th, 2005, 06:24 PM

And don't forget cleaning up Liberal corruption to complete the slate of business.

MacDoc · Nov 9th, 2005, 06:51 PM

Leadership and vision is in short supply, tho perhaps Duceppe has both

There is not bad "management" but there is little to inspire pride and excitement at any level of government.

I like Miller's vision for Toronto but he's handcuffed by the Feds and McGuinty in seeing it come to fruition.

I like Martin's international vision but that does not translate to inspiration and confidence at home.

MACSPECTRUM · Nov 9th, 2005, 06:59 PM

	Quote:			Originally Posted by SINC
	And don't forget cleaning up Liberal corruption to complete the slate of business.

and nationalizing Alberta oil to finally get rid of...... [supressed as per thread starter's request]

Vandave · Nov 9th, 2005, 07:04 PM

	Quote:			Originally Posted by MACSPECTRUM
	and nationalizing Alberta oil to finally get rid of...... [supressed as per thread starter's request]

If Quebec goes, then Alberta goes and BC eventually follows. Is nationalizing oil really worth it?

Vandave · Nov 9th, 2005, 07:07 PM

1. Cleaning up corruption;
2. Reforming the vast amount of patronage in Ottawa;
3. More power to the provinces;
4. Tax Cuts;
5. Health Care;
6. Economy;
7. EEE Senate or no Senate;
8. Environment;
9. Education;
10. Resolving Native issues.

bryanc · Nov 9th, 2005, 07:09 PM

My voting priorities:

1) Environment
2) reduction/ending corporate welfare
3) Healthcare (prevention of privatization)
4) protection of Canadian sovereignty
5) Education
6) Economy (particularly the diversification thereof... we're far too dependent on primary resources. Also the development of more diverse trade relations... we rely far too heavily on the US).

The least of my concerns is a few million bucks worth of corruption... these are politicians, lawyers and advertising execs we're talking about... whatdaya expect?!? Suggesting the cronies the conservatives would install would be any better is simply expressing a preference for a different type of parasite.

I'll probably vote NDP, but I could be convinced to vote Liberal (for the first time in my life) if it appears that might help prevent a conservative from winning the riding. Or, if it's clear that there's going to be a conservative landslide in my riding, I might vote Green.

Cheers

ravijo · Nov 9th, 2005, 08:18 PM

I would like to compliment you guys for sticking to the format, I'm really liking this, and I'm getting a far better idea for people's priorities, although I don't agree with everyone, that's TOTALLY why we discuss things.

I wouldn't prioritize any one particular thing for two reasons:
1) I have an opinion on almost everything with respect to our society and the way I think things should be

2) I DO NOT think that things are a-ok at all. I'm not down with the status quo.

I know that I would vote for the NDP for some reasons (call them values):
- I don't want tax cuts, or small gains for the individual especially when our communities and our commons are being starved. We are starving our social ability to make positive change.
- I believe in positive change of the society to reduce the flagrant inequality of our system, both domestic and foreign. (I don't share the Liberal's foreign policy). We need to work to allow others (worldwide) to change concurrent with our change. Paul Martin's view on globalization is ridiculous.
- I believe that the party that makes changes to a system should work with and have experience working with the already mobilized groups. The NDP and Bloc are outstanding for this in my mind.

... and before people start to mention that this is all crazy loopy and idealistic, I encourage you to look around the world and see some of the awesome things that are going on. Venezuela specifically, Bolivia, and European countries specifically. ALSO recognize that people are making change already and are only need of support and recognition (small communities don't ask Paul's permission to make positive change they just DO IT!).