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Old Oct 11th, 2005, 10:48 PM   #1
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Bye-bye Privacy - hello Big Brother

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...tory/National/

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...11?hub=SciTech

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The new technology would give police and the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, Canada's spy agency, the ability to intercept the e-mail, Internet chat, telephone and cell phone conversations of thousands of people at a time.

The United States has already adopted similar legislation.
Canadian government can kiss my a** if they introduce that -- all our operations will move overseas where clients information can be protected.

Time for look into http://www.pgp.com/ once again.

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Old Oct 11th, 2005, 11:04 PM   #2
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Ms. McLellan noted that law-enforcement officials will still have to obtain a warrant from a judge to intercept e-mail or Internet transmissions, as they always have with telephone wiretaps.
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The government insists their proposals will bring Canada's laws on wiretaps up to date and will mean police will be able to keep up with organized criminals who are using high-tech to get around wiretaps.
Your off-the-cuff remark just shows your ignorance.

I love it when people whine and complain about security of private information, yet are willing to order a pizza over a cordless phone, and give out their phone number to some unknown guy in a pizza uniform.
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Old Oct 11th, 2005, 11:25 PM   #3
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If that is a Homer Simpson quote then it should be; "I have misplaced my pants."
If not, nevermind.
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Old Oct 11th, 2005, 11:33 PM   #4
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The United States has already adopted similar legislation.

In May, federal Privacy Commissioner Jennifer Stoddart raised concerns about the proposed legislation with Justice Minister Irwin Cotler.

"Law enforcement agencies will not only have a greater ability to obtain communications data there is also much more data available and, as discussed above, they now have far more sophisticated means of analyzing this data," Stoddart wrote in her submission to Cotler.

"This combination could result in law enforcement agencies being able to gain access to far more information about our personal lives than they have in the past.

"We remain sceptical about the need for these potentially intrusive and far-reaching measures."

Privacy advocate Darrell Evans echoed that concern. He says the legislation is excessive and fears criminals will find ways around new surveillance.

"It means you and I have lost our privacy, with no net gains in security," he told CTV News.
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The pizza guy does not have the ability to combine information for many sources like the government does. Nor will he be tempted to abuse that information and sell it to private industry on a mass scale.
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Old Oct 11th, 2005, 11:43 PM   #5
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In essence, the bill would require telephone, wireless or Internet-service providers to gradually build into their networks a capacity to duplicate their clients' Internet and phone use and transmit the data to the police.
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Old Oct 11th, 2005, 11:44 PM   #6
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"All you need is the ability to do something and it will be abused if there's not enough scrutiny, and Canada has failed in that regard," said Darrel Evans, executive director of the Freedom of Information and Privacy Association. "And the more you have this kind of increased power, the more you need to increase the power of your watchdogs."
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Old Oct 11th, 2005, 11:46 PM   #7
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Here's some more PGP and Mac PGP related sites if anyone is interested.... and it's beginning to look like we should be interested now more than ever....

http://www.gnupg.org/

http://macgpg.sourceforge.net/

http://www.sente.ch/software/GPGMail...j/GPGMail.html

http://webber.dewinter.com/gnupg_how...MiniHowto.html

http://www.davids-world.com/archives...tion_crea.html

http://www.mccune.cc/PGP.htm

Just a thought...
As we have our own little trusted community here, we could fairly easily establish a 'web of trust' and with proper ID, sign each others keys.
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My "ignorance" is bliss then Mr. guytoronto.

The potential for abuse is there and will happen. Our freedoms and rights are being eroded steadily but surely.
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The pizza guy does not have the ability to combine information for many sources like the government does. Nor will he be tempted to abuse that information and sell it to private industry on a mass scale.
That may be true, but he can take your CC # and rack it to its limit with a wee bit of ID theft!
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Old Oct 12th, 2005, 12:16 AM   #10
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The pizza guy does not have the ability to combine information for many sources like the government does. Nor will he be tempted to abuse that information and sell it to private industry on a mass scale.
You wish.

A Pizza guy (really) was arrested in Victoria with 100's of stolen charge card numbers, a room full of stolen and mailorder stuff, hotel parking lot access cards charge card blanks, the lot.

Skimming charge cards is an organized business, with established wholesale and retail channels. Your pizza guy or gas jockey or waiter collects and sells numbers in bulk to middlemen, who then sell the numbers around the world for "use". Because they only have 20 - 30 days before the charges start appearing on statememtns and the cards discontinued, they need a steady source of fresh numbers.

Where d'you suppose Olumide Olawole from Ibadan gets all those charge card numbers that he and his friends can send me scam orders for goods three or four times a week, each on a different card? "I am businessman with large import/export business TOMSTORE2000. Please process my order soonest, ship by Federal Express OK Thank you, Mr. Smith Tom."
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