Even Bono thinks Paul Martin is a deadbeat!

MacNutt · Apr 30th, 2005, 04:06 AM

Paul Martin and his corrupt Liberals always make all sorts of magnanimous promises BEFORE an election. Then, when they are safely back into power, they usually toss all of this stuff out the window.

It has been this way since the earliest days of Chretien. Remember when he promised all of us that, if we voted for the Liberals, he would "Tear up the Free Trade Agreement" and that he would "Eliminate the GST!!"

He did neither, of course. Chretien told us it was "All a slip of the tongue. A simple mistake". (OUR mistake in electing him, apparently)

And the same sort of pattern has been running through ALL of the subsequent Liberal election campaigns. Promise whatever it takes, say and do whatever it takes to get elected...then back away from EVERYTHING, once elected.

And Paul Martin isn't any different. He's failed to bring in any of the policies that he loudly claimed he would, once he was elected. That was a full year ago. His score is dismal so far. Which makes us all wonder WHAT the Liberal "Policies" really are? (not much, it would seem)

One year ago, Bono of U2 was celebrating Paul Martin's election and cheering him on.

Nowadays, even Bono is pretty dissappointed in Paul Martin and his Liberal charlatans.

Here is a quote from today's news:

""I'm going to be the biggest pain in his ass."

That's what Bono warned one year ago if Paul Martin didn't follow through on his promise to commit Canada to set a timetable for achieving 0.7 per cent allocation of Gross National Income to foreign aid.

Guess what? A few days ago, Paul Martin decided to back away from that promise - and Bono's not happy. On CBC Radio this weekend, Bono encouraged all Canadians to call Paul to pressure him to keep his promise:

"I want to give Canada his phone number…. If anyone's listening, I would call Paul. It's 613 992-4211."

At last nights U2 concert, Paul Martin was booed loudly. And Bono ran the PM's phone number up on the big megascreen. He also invited all Canadians to call our erstwhile "leader" and tell him how pissed off we all are at him.

Apparently, thousands of people did just that! And the PMO switchboard was choked with angry callers for HOURS! They are STILL getting calls!

About time we Canadians also figured out that this batch of thieves are NOT very good at keeping their campaign promises. Or of following their stated policies.

Let alone, actually running the country.

One only hopes that the people in the 905 area of Toronto can finally cut through the fog of bullsh*t and figure this simple fact out, one of these days. And then vote accordingly.

We can only hope.

jicon · Apr 30th, 2005, 12:48 PM

I've heard conflicting reports (admittedly from my less than accurate father) that the boos were for Bono, not Martin.

Man... I can't wait for the day that I own a movie distribution company, clothing company, a private Leer jet, a helicopter (and pad on my property), charge 15,000 people $120 to hear me for two hours, and complain about others for not doing enough.

Pylonman · Apr 30th, 2005, 01:26 PM

I agree, it's really hard for a rock star nowadays.

I don't like poltics. It's so very negative and people get destructive.
A lot of people, similar Macnutt, get ol **** and vinger about the Liberals (i'm not a fan either) but, who's better? NDP, PC. Neither! It seems the whole lot is bad. i.e. NDP; fast (fat) cats, buying Woodworths for 22 million and selling it for 9, etc. PC-they're all over the place and can't get anything together, including a leader.

Thats why a lot of people don't vote. The system has failed. Either you choose the lesser evil or go for the small guy/gals, like the Green Party.

my 2¢

MacNutt · Apr 30th, 2005, 03:24 PM

Note to Pylonman...

The PC party of Canada is defunct. Gone. Vanished from the scene as a major player. Finito.

The Canadian Conservative Party is made up of brand new faces and while it has a similar name to the Progressive Conservatives, it has some VERY different policies from the old Mulroney PC's.

One of the things that the new Conservative Party is totally committed to is cleaning up Canada's dysfunctional political system. None of the other parties are planning to clean up the system at all.

We NEED this! We NEED it NOW!

MacNutt · Apr 30th, 2005, 03:33 PM

	Quote:			Originally Posted by jicon
	I've heard conflicting reports (admittedly from my less than accurate father) that the boos were for Bono, not Martin. Man... I can't wait for the day that I own a movie distribution company, clothing company, a private Leer jet, a helicopter (and pad on my property), charge 15,000 people $120 to hear me for two hours, and complain about others for not doing enough.

(Yeah...thousands of ecstatic U2 fans decide to spontaneously BOO their favorite singer during a live concert that everyone says was "awseome". Might happen...in a parallel universe.)

The boos were very definitely for Paul Martin. And they were promted by Bono's deep dissappointment with Paul Martin and his latest broken promise. Bono is so incensed over Paul Martin's broken promise to him that he used the concert in Vancouver as a forum to express his disgust. He asked the crowd what THEY thought about Paul Martin, and the whole place roared with BOO's. That's when Paul Martin's phone number appeared on the big screen and Bono urged all Canadians who were pissed at Paul Martin to phone him up and tell him about it.

The reason that Bono is all over this is because he now feels "used" by our Liberal leader. Paul Martin thought he could get some traction by having the leader of the most popular rock band on the planet backing him and appearing with him in the runup to last years federal election.

All he had to do was make a promise to spend a percentage of Canada's GDP on third world debt relief (one of Bono's pet projects). Martin's handlers called Bono and told him that Paul Martin would be willing to publicly commit to this, if Bono would come onside and endorse Paul in public.

Bono came through. Paul Martin got elected.

Then...as is always the case...the Liberal leader backed away from his stated promise and didn't keep his end of the deal.

Big surprise.

Now Bono knows what we Canadians all know...and HAVE known, for many many years.

Never trust the Liberal Party of Canada when they make any solemn promises before an election. No matter how sincere they may seem to be at the time. They will ALWAYS break them.

They ALWAYS dissappoint.

Pylonman · May 2nd, 2005, 11:45 AM

MacNutt, sorry for the PC mistuderstanding, I meant the Conservatives. (My wife would smacked me if she found out)

Kosh · May 2nd, 2005, 12:08 PM

	Quote:			Originally Posted by MacNutt
	That's what Bono warned one year ago if Paul Martin didn't follow through on his promise to commit Canada to set a timetable for achieving 0.7 per cent allocation of Gross National Income to foreign aid.

Yeah right, like that 0.7 percent number has been rationally calculated out. It's just a stupid number that Pierson thought was about right. Even alot of the environmentalists agree it's a stupid number. Besides, we have alot of people in this country that could use some aid and help - such as the cattle farmers and softwood lumber people. Let's fix our own back yard.

jicon · May 2nd, 2005, 01:02 PM

	Quote:			Originally Posted by MacNutt
	(Yeah...thousands of ecstatic U2 fans decide to spontaneously BOO their favorite singer during a live concert that everyone says was "awseome". Might happen...in a parallel universe.) The boos were very definitely for Paul Martin. And they were promted by Bono's deep dissappointment with Paul Martin and his latest broken promise. Bono is so incensed over Paul Martin's broken promise to him that he used the concert in Vancouver as a forum to express his disgust. He asked the crowd what THEY thought about Paul Martin, and the whole place roared with BOO's. That's when Paul Martin's phone number appeared on the big screen and Bono urged all Canadians who were pissed at Paul Martin to phone him up and tell him about it.

My father got it wrong again. Sorry.

That being said, the globe and mail didn't have a glowing review of the "Canadiana" segment.

Crowd was apparently disinterested.
The wrong phonenumber was given (area code)
During the last song to be sung for the DVD they were filming, Bono pleaded with the audience to come on stage to support his message to Martin. Despite trying and trying, he could only get five people onstage.

-As it was being filmed for a DVD, and not to end the show on a lownote, another three songs were apparently sung.

ShawnKing · May 2nd, 2005, 02:53 PM

	Quote:			Originally Posted by MacNutt
	At last nights U2 concert, Paul Martin was booed loudly. And Bono ran the PM's phone number up on the big megascreen. He also invited all Canadians to call our erstwhile "leader" and tell him how pissed off we all are at him.

It's a shame that your obvious desire to slam Martin gets in the way of the facts. You either weren't at the concert and therefore have no idea what happened or you were there and you are distorting the facts to fit your rant.

Bono did no such thing. From someone who was actually at the concert:
"Of course, huge boos could be heard at the mention of the PM, but Bono went on to say that he felt that Martin was a good leader and he could be even greater by leading Canada and all G8 nations."

<b><a href="http://www.cbc.ca/story/arts/national/2005/04/29/Arts/U2callPM.html" target="_blank">The CBC reports</a></b>, "The longtime anti-poverty crusader called Martin "a great leader for Canada" who can "lead the world out of despair and poverty."

There are plenty of legitimate reasons to slam Martin. There's no need to make up anything or distort the facts. It simply makes you look foolish and weakens your position.

ShawnKing · May 2nd, 2005, 02:56 PM

	Quote:			Originally Posted by jicon
	During the last song to be sung for the DVD they were filming, Bono pleaded with the audience to come on stage to support his message to Martin. Despite trying and trying, he could only get five people onstage.

Again, completely wrong. Bono *invited* 5 people up on stage.

Do you really believe that, if the lead singer of the "World's Greatest Rock and Roll Band" invited people on stage, for *any* reason, only 5 would come forward?

Please - use some common sense.

Apr 30th, 2005, 04:06 AM	#1
MacNutt Honourable Citizen Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Salt Spring Island B.C. Posts: 8,774	Even Bono thinks Paul Martin is a deadbeat! Paul Martin and his corrupt Liberals always make all sorts of magnanimous promises BEFORE an election. Then, when they are safely back into power, they usually toss all of this stuff out the window. It has been this way since the earliest days of Chretien. Remember when he promised all of us that, if we voted for the Liberals, he would "Tear up the Free Trade Agreement" and that he would "Eliminate the GST!!" He did neither, of course. Chretien told us it was "All a slip of the tongue. A simple mistake". (OUR mistake in electing him, apparently) And the same sort of pattern has been running through ALL of the subsequent Liberal election campaigns. Promise whatever it takes, say and do whatever it takes to get elected...then back away from EVERYTHING, once elected. And Paul Martin isn't any different. He's failed to bring in any of the policies that he loudly claimed he would, once he was elected. That was a full year ago. His score is dismal so far. Which makes us all wonder WHAT the Liberal "Policies" really are? (not much, it would seem) One year ago, Bono of U2 was celebrating Paul Martin's election and cheering him on. Nowadays, even Bono is pretty dissappointed in Paul Martin and his Liberal charlatans. Here is a quote from today's news: ""I'm going to be the biggest pain in his ass." That's what Bono warned one year ago if Paul Martin didn't follow through on his promise to commit Canada to set a timetable for achieving 0.7 per cent allocation of Gross National Income to foreign aid. Guess what? A few days ago, Paul Martin decided to back away from that promise - and Bono's not happy. On CBC Radio this weekend, Bono encouraged all Canadians to call Paul to pressure him to keep his promise: "I want to give Canada his phone number…. If anyone's listening, I would call Paul. It's 613 992-4211." At last nights U2 concert, Paul Martin was booed loudly. And Bono ran the PM's phone number up on the big megascreen. He also invited all Canadians to call our erstwhile "leader" and tell him how pissed off we all are at him. Apparently, thousands of people did just that! And the PMO switchboard was choked with angry callers for HOURS! They are STILL getting calls! About time we Canadians also figured out that this batch of thieves are NOT very good at keeping their campaign promises. Or of following their stated policies. Let alone, actually running the country. One only hopes that the people in the 905 area of Toronto can finally cut through the fog of bullsh*t and figure this simple fact out, one of these days. And then vote accordingly. We can only hope.

Apr 30th, 2005, 01:26 PM	#3
Pylonman Full Citizen Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wet Coast, BC Posts: 431	I agree, it's really hard for a rock star nowadays. I don't like poltics. It's so very negative and people get destructive. A lot of people, similar Macnutt, get ol **** and vinger about the Liberals (i'm not a fan either) but, who's better? NDP, PC. Neither! It seems the whole lot is bad. i.e. NDP; fast (fat) cats, buying Woodworths for 22 million and selling it for 9, etc. PC-they're all over the place and can't get anything together, including a leader. Thats why a lot of people don't vote. The system has failed. Either you choose the lesser evil or go for the small guy/gals, like the Green Party. my 2¢ __________________ • Home-Hackintosh 2.4 GHz Quad core • On the road- 2.4 Ghz Macbook Intel Core 2 Duo • Work- 27" iMac- 3.06 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo Print and Web Designer

May 2nd, 2005, 11:45 AM	#6
Pylonman Full Citizen Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wet Coast, BC Posts: 431	MacNutt, sorry for the PC mistuderstanding, I meant the Conservatives. (My wife would smacked me if she found out) __________________ • Home-Hackintosh 2.4 GHz Quad core • On the road- 2.4 Ghz Macbook Intel Core 2 Duo • Work- 27" iMac- 3.06 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo Print and Web Designer

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Apr 30th, 2005, 12:48 PM	#2
jicon Honourable Citizen Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Victoria, BC Posts: 1,147	I've heard conflicting reports (admittedly from my less than accurate father) that the boos were for Bono, not Martin. Man... I can't wait for the day that I own a movie distribution company, clothing company, a private Leer jet, a helicopter (and pad on my property), charge 15,000 people $120 to hear me for two hours, and complain about others for not doing enough.

Apr 30th, 2005, 03:24 PM	#4
MacNutt Honourable Citizen Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Salt Spring Island B.C. Posts: 8,774	Note to Pylonman... The PC party of Canada is defunct. Gone. Vanished from the scene as a major player. Finito. The Canadian Conservative Party is made up of brand new faces and while it has a similar name to the Progressive Conservatives, it has some VERY different policies from the old Mulroney PC's. One of the things that the new Conservative Party is totally committed to is cleaning up Canada's dysfunctional political system. None of the other parties are planning to clean up the system at all. We NEED this! We NEED it NOW!