A recent incident has brought to mind the question, What is proper decorum on ehMac for materials in postings?
I think the question requires an answer from the mods, as I for one think the policy is rather grey and needs clarification.
Here is how it unfolds. A member posts a funny picture of a Scot which finally debunks what is worn under a kilt. I post it in another thread, and it is edited out of my post, and instead linked for posters to view.
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EDIT: Even though the picture is incredibly funny, it is a tad crude, especially since it shows genitalia. It's always best to just link to that kind of picture.
I check back and see the original poster has also now linked the picture in an edit. The picture by the way, to my mind is about as offensive as posting a picture of Michaelangelo's David.
Meanwhile, in numerous other threads, some posters seem to be free to post Graemlins mooning other posters, giving them the "double finger" and peppering the posts with things like f#@k, s*&t, WTF (this even appears in Subject lines) and comments like: don't carry walkie talkies or sit in fu$kin' trees. Other posters notice this type of language too:
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As much as a admire your moxie, do you think we could remember this is a family show?
Where are the mods when it comes to these types of things which some members consider much more offensive than human nudity.
So Mr. Mayor, Heart and Chealion, help me out here. I am confused as to your wishes.
If I offended anyone with the post of the kilt picture, I sincerely apologize.
BUT, what is your intention regarding the examples cited above, why are they allowed, and can we expect more of this type of language seeping onto the pages of ehMac?
It's a public place. Act as you would anywhere else where everyone is welcome.
There's a reluctance to censor on ehMac, but if someone complains then I would expect the moderators to look into it and do what they see fit.
In the case you're mentioning (I didn't view either post) my guess is someone complained and the moderators went to that thread. They don't have the time or inclination to check every post to see if perhaps the same photo went by without complaints elsewhere.
Relax. I don't think you were singled out intentionally (by the mayor). He just probably responded to a PM, and since someone was offended, he did something to alleviate that.
If you think an image might offend someone, then just post a link and a polite warning instead of using UBB Image Code. And if you think it's risque, it probably is.
Relax. I don't think you were singled out intentionally (by the mayor). He just probably responded to a PM, and since someone was offended, he did something to alleviate that.
I am relaxed gordguide, and I certainly don't feel singled out.
I just want to know why things are the way they are. One thing is unacceptable and another is OK, when both can be considered offensive by some, that's all. I know the language I posted examples of offends me.
I guess we have to face reality here. Our culture is getting more rude with each passing day and we're seeing the fruits of it here.
Look at the foul mouths on some of our politicians. Profanity laden shows like "Trailor Park Boys" are a big hit with teens and preteens. Garbage shows like Springer and Stern have a huge following. Jackass is the standard for what passes as comedy these days with their grotesque and disgusting antics. The porn industry is making more money than Microsoft. 20-30 years ago this would have been rejected by the masses. Not today.
Like it or not, the comments you pointed to are a reflection of the new F-you culture and becoming more widespread every day.
Thanks for raising this. Some of the attitude and language posted recently is unnecessarily aggressive.
People who are unable to discuss with manners, or win others over by force of argument are resorting to insult and aggression.
MacGuiver has a point about common standards today - but we don't have to accept them everywhere.
It would be great to her from the Mayor & Co.
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Tread very carefully indeed. This is sounding an awful lot like censorship. I abhor censorship.
If you find some language offensive, ignore it, don't fuel it. There are those that intentionally post without using foul language in order to make a point. There are those that don't.
There are those that are rude and antagonistic. That's what makes places interesting. The different personalities.
We shouldn't tell people what to write, how to write it and so on.
Nudity links. Well, common courtesy would indicate that if you can avoid embedding an image that could possibly offend, then do so, although that too smacks of censorship.
I had this discussion on one of my art forums not too long ago.
IMO, we all seem to get along just fine. Occasionally we have a bit of a hiccup, we deal with it, and move on.
Cheers
Bo
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You may be more supportive of censorship than you think.
Case in point:
Would you support hardcore porn movies playing on PBS right after Barney? If so would you let your children watch?
Would you support your child's school teacher holding a massive collection of child porn?
Would you support snuff movies being played to inmates in Kingston Pen?
Would you support a school teacher that regularly used profane language teaching children?
If you answered no to any of these questions, you've just censored someone. I think Censorship has its place in society but its a fine line as to what should and shouldn't be deemed acceptable.
All the things I've stated above would be permissible with the absence of censorship.
I refer to my suggestion for a more 'adult' section, not for nasty and crude posting, but for more, oh shall we say 'colourful' posting.
If you want to start threads with charged subject matter such as politics or religion then it's pretty ridiculous to expect people to be all proper and PC correct in their tone and language, people get worked up and that is a good thing.
Perhaps if the tone and flavor of certain threads and the language that is used, as it reflects the real world, is not to your liking then maybe you would be happier on a 'family values' forum.
Of course if you don't like the things that I post or the way in which I express my thoughts and opinions then kick me off. If you don't want to do that then shut up and deal with the spice and a little raunchiness baby.
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Case in point:Would you support hardcore porn movies playing on PBS right after Barney? If so would you let your children watch?
Would you support your child's school teacher holding a massive collection of child porn?
Would you support snuff movies being played to inmates in Kingston Pen?
Would you support a school teacher that regularly used profane language teaching children?
This has nothing to do with censorship, get a grip. If you think these examples fall under censorship topics you're in pretty bad shape sport. [img]graemlins/lmao.gif[/img]
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Would you support hardcore porn movies playing on PBS right after Barney? If so would you let your children watch?
Would you support your child's school teacher holding a massive collection of child porn?
Would you support snuff movies being played to inmates in Kingston Pen?
Would you support a school teacher that regularly used profane language teaching children?
My answer to all of those is yes. I support their right to exist. That doesn't mean I LIKE it, but I have to support it's right to exist.
Why does profanity have to be so morally wrong? Curse words are just words, just like any other word. They have no power.
Whether or not I despise the content of certain things, I DO believe in it's right to exist. How I choose to manage it's existence in my own personal life, is how I choose to manage it.
Censorship by a censoring body, IMO is wrong. Who gets to choose what I think is right or wrong?
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Blandness = Pasty pale people
I have to agree with Gretchen on this one. Who really likes pasty pale people? ewwww.
Cheers
Bo
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