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Old Apr 17th, 2012, 11:31 AM   #80581
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It's the same in sales - sometimes I really don't want to make a sale, because I know how much work is involved 'after'.

Do you classify SAP as a 'hobby' still?
That is a very good question Elaine. I am still not sure. I started it as a fun hobby, then discovered the expense involved to keep it going.

That's when I began to sell just enough advertising to cover my costs at very modest ad rates. I still give away far more advertising than I sell, but I must admit that SAP now takes in about $8,000 per year. That more than covers my operating costs and allows me to stay current with the technology by buying new equipment every second year.

I am beginning to look at it now as a small business that will continue to grow and one day might be sold to a more aggressive marketer who could make a living at it by buying the established audience. I very much doubt anyone is willing to put in the four to six hour days, seven days a week, 364 days a year that I do.

So for now, it remains a hobby, (but to be honest I now think of it as 'work'), and a profitable one at that.
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Old Apr 17th, 2012, 11:48 AM   #80582
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Let's see ... 6 x 7 x 52 = 2184 hours.
$8000.00 income divided by 2184 hours = hobby (There's a saying about a hobby being something that you can't afford to do for a living ...)

But you're definitely doing better than a lot of hobbyists - at least you make enough to pay the out of pocket costs, such as hosting and new computers.

I have the same issue with my work - I'd love to hire someone to take over, but nobody I know who is qualified would do it for the amount of money I pay myself, especially given the hours I put in (12 hours a day 5 days a week, plus about 4 hours on Saturday to do 'paperwork'). I consider it job security!

(I try not to think about the reality: nobody else is stupid enough to work as hard as I do for as little as I pay myself.)
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Elaine, I guess the final thought on both our situations is this: If we didn't love what we do, it wouldn't get done.
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Old Apr 17th, 2012, 01:54 PM   #80584
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Don, here is an interesting piece re WWII Spitfires .............. in Burma of all places.

Buried Treasure: World War II Spitfires To Be Unearthed in Burma | NewsFeed | TIME.com
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Don, and an item for your SK folks in SAP.

Lion cubs unveiled at Saskatoon zoo - *News - MSN CA
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Time for some tea, but I am going to make it ice tea. Anyone interested?
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Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com

The only thing stranger than a giraffe chasing a butterfly is a dachshund chasing a butterfly. Both are odd looking animals, but at least a giraffe is graceful when it runs ............. whereas a doxie launching him/herself into the air to try to catch a butterfly is like trying to make a paper airplane out of pizza dough.
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Listen to the last item of "The World at Six" on CBC's Radio One. It is about the amazement of people here in St.John's that we hit +20C today, and how astonished the tourists are that we would make such a big deal of this event.
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evening everyone, finally finished teaching for the day and now I can sit and relax
sorry that I haven't been here for a bit, how is everyone doing???
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evening everyone, finally finished teaching for the day and now I can sit and relax
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Evening, Kim. Glad you could join us. I am doing fine. How is Life treating you today?
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