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Old Nov 23rd, 2015, 11:06 AM   #41
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Even when people might be ready to agree with such a policy, you're already running around like a loony, tilting at windmills, making enemies and making it hard for people to agree with you.

What is the matter with you?
The "matter" with me? I guess that I have enough experience with the enraged Right wingers and the usual suspects here at ehMac to anticipate what the response is going to be.

And macintosh doctor proved my point for me.
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Old Nov 23rd, 2015, 11:07 AM   #42
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It seems to me that had the Liberals shared this fact right up front after being elected, it would have quelled the revolt of Canadians against the idea. Instead they appear to have stirred the opposition themselves.
I disagree, SINC. Those who were "stirred up" have to take responsibility for their overreactions.
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Old Nov 23rd, 2015, 11:50 AM   #43
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We're talking about admitting a group about 2/3 the population of Moose Jaw, which will be re-settled in communities scattered across the country. I don't see the need or duty to panic.
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Old Nov 23rd, 2015, 12:24 PM   #44
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First off, FTFY...

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The changes to the policy will officially be announced on Tuesday
It appears that the Progressives are watching the intertubes. Interesting.

However, it changes nothing. Why? All those years of school, CM, & you never learned the first rule about education: shut the hole under your nose & remove your hands from the holes in your head, both front & side. Now, don't just look & listen: see & hear...

The issue for most of us who are concerned about this Charlie Foxtrot isn't about the importation of Syrian refugees (after all, Harper brought in what, 22,000?) but the accelerated (lack of) vetting process that will be required in order to pull this off in the promised time frame.

Get a clew.

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The policy will officially be announced on Tuesday, but it's now clear:
Women & children have been trained to be terrorists and, in some cases, already succeeded. That's a fact.

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Now... let's sit back and wait for the usual suspects to tell us how toddlers are really just ISIS killer sleeper agents, and then justify their opposition to allowing them into Canada....
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Old Nov 23rd, 2015, 12:47 PM   #45
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Ah, another progressive mind reader. Time to educate the educator. Again...

Here's a little secret: If you attempt to formulate your argument in anticipation of a predicted response, you will fail miserably. Period.

Why? 'Cause your interpretation of the situation & the reality are generally at odds. You'll get flanked every time. Just like you did thinking I'm against Syrian refugees. I'm not. As I stated, I'm against poor vetting.

The formula for an effective defense is far simpler: state your "truth", clearly & simply, and be prepared to defend it from all angles.

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Old Nov 23rd, 2015, 01:05 PM   #46
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Rex gets it.

Rex Murphy's Wisdom vs. The Shiny Pony's Ego

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In this editorial, Rex Murphy shares some common sense views that surely the majority of Canadians must share, namely that it is nonsensical to rush forward with the importation of 25,000 immigrants when it's almost certain that normal security screening would have to be waived to accomplish that. Justin Trudeau and his Liberals have a majority government in Canada so they can do pretty much whatever they want. But is his ego so fragile and more important than taking some reasonable steps to protect Canadians? Sadly, apparently so.
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Old Nov 23rd, 2015, 03:27 PM   #47
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Even when people might be ready to agree with such a policy, you're already running around like a loony, tilting at windmills, making enemies and making it hard for people to agree with you.

What is the matter with you?
CubaMark is definitely not the loony one around here.
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Old Nov 23rd, 2015, 03:43 PM   #48
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because once they are exposed to harm of brain washing - you can not unteach..
Many clear examples here of extremist right wing brain washing around here too.

Quoting radical whacko right wing websites as factual information is very disturbing. Pamela Geller? Another nutcase spewing a constant flow of nonsense and bullshit. Folks with extreme right wing views do not like true facts, so they bend them to suit their views. This was pretty clear when Dear Leader Harpo silenced scientists when they expressed concerns based on facts.

Conservative and Republican ideology has turned into something very evil based on using misinformation to spread fear and hate while creating a small minded culture of greed.
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Old Nov 23rd, 2015, 04:27 PM   #49
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MazterCBlazter, we never had any doubts that you and CM would be bedfellows.

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Old Nov 23rd, 2015, 05:53 PM   #50
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Rex gets it.

Rex Murphy's Wisdom vs. The Shiny Pony's Ego
This is a crazy website you linked. Not saying what's being said is right or wrong. But I feel like I've been talked into going down to the basement to look at a wall of evidence made up of newspaper clippings, thumbtacks and string.
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