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I will say this about the government's intransigence on the issue... As this thread alone shows the issue of Khadr and his repatriation is clearly very divisive and strongly felt.
When the government was in a minority position it is understandable that they dragged their heals on the issue fearing political fallout. Now that they have a majority there really is no longer even this "excuse" to fall back on... They should do the right thing grant him his rights under the Charter and bring him home.
When the government was in a minority position it is understandable that they dragged their heals on the issue fearing political fallout. Now that they have a majority there really is no longer even this "excuse" to fall back on... They should do the right thing grant him his rights under the Charter and bring him home.
We are in agreement.
I may be in the minority on this but I intensely dis-like boogeymen. In some ways many Muslims today find themselves in the same place as European Jews prior to and during WWII. For Muslims living in places like Iraq or even Libya, the boogeyman mentality has been nothing short of devastating.
Beyond that as I get older I see case after case where I am told to cower in terror from this or that boogeyman. In every case the guy telling me how much danger I am in, is using is using that boogeyman as a distraction to do something far worse than said boogeyman.
Back to bill C-30. Even under the flag of protecting us from terrorists Canadians found this bill so invasive that both a Liberal minority and a Conservative minority backed down. Now that he enjoys a majority Harper is pimping it again, this time to protect us all from the Kiddie Porn crowd. Even his most ardent supporters have said this bill is a very bad idea. A bad invasive bill is just that and needs to be stood up to no matter which boogeyman is being used as a diversionary tactic.
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Back to bill C-30. Even under the flag of protecting us from terrorists Canadians found this bill so invasive that both a Liberal minority and a Conservative minority backed down. Now that he enjoys a majority Harper is pimping it again, this time to protect us all from the Kiddie Porn crowd. Even his most ardent supporters have said this bill is a very bad idea. A bad invasive bill is just that and needs to be stood up to no matter which boogeyman is being used as a diversionary tactic.
Did good ole Vic Toews apologize to everyone for calling of us who want to protect our privacy "child pornographers" with his "if your not with us, your with the child pornographers" statement? I can't remember. I really don't see how he'll get Bill C-30 through, even with a majority. Even the constituents out west that voted in Conservative MPs don't want it. Alot of Conservative MPs are scared of the bill, because it'll likely mean they won't get voted in next time, if they vote for the bill.
I have to agree with you that they using child porn as another boogeyman, to try and get Bill C-30 and then they'll use Bill C-30 for other things.
Canada's public safety minister has defended his decision to put the repatriation of war criminal Omar Khadr on hold.
On Friday, Vic Toews cited concerns over the release of "very relevant" information from the U.S. on the convicted murderer's mental state, while a justice-advocacy group accused the government of more "foot dragging."
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Alex Neve of Amnesty International Canada, said the government has "had years" to gather the information it needs to bring Khadr back from the U.S. - a country whose authorities Neve said would not allow Khadr to return north of the border if they considered him a threat.
"It's hard to see this as anything but more foot dragging," Neve said.
Neve also called Welner's assessment of Khar "bigoted," and pointed instead to comments of psychiatrist and former military officer Dr. Stephen Xenakis, who in 2010 deemed Khadr as reformed and not a threat to society.
Yep, and if Toews didn't ask for his medical psychological background and something went wrong after his return to Canada, people would be all over him for that too.
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I think Herr Toews is hoping if he can drag that foot long enough, he will find some vague link between Khadr and a Kiddie Porn ring. Probably needs Bill C-30 passed to speed the process along.
BTW Herr is German for Mr. Since we must show fake respect for our politicians this is close as I can manage when it comes to Vic.
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I think Herr Toews is hoping if he can drag that foot long enough, he will find some vague link between Khadr and a Kiddie Porn ring. Probably needs Bill C-30 passed to speed the process along.
BTW Herr is German for Mr. Since we must show fake respect for our politicians this is close as I can manage when it comes to Vic.
Toews is not German, your attempt to justify your obvious reference to him being an Nazi is simply lame and your real meaning is completely transparent to everyone.
Toews is not German, your attempt to justify your obvious reference to him being an Nazi is simply lame and your real meaning is completely transparent to everyone.
Herr as stated was simply a way to fake respect as required. Because the Harper Regimes absolute loyalty to the State of Israel is well established, it would take a huge leap of imagination to think that any of his Ministers were being called Nazis. Perhaps you were thinking in terms of Bill C-30 when you made the Nazi leap?
Furthermore the implication that being Germanic is equivalent to being Nazi is extremely insulting.
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Herr as stated was simply a way to fake respect as required. Because the Harper Regimes absolute loyalty to the State of Israel is well established, it would take a huge leap of imagination to think that any of his Ministers were being called Nazis. Perhaps you were thinking in terms of Bill C-30 when you made the Nazi leap?
Furthermore the implication that being Germanic is equivalent to being Nazi is extremely insulting.
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