ehMac.ca has a neat new feature I wanted to bring to your attention!

First off, this has nothing to do with FaceBook. :)

Quite often, ehMac.ca will have a thread with a topic that becomes popular, and will turn into pages and pages of posts. For someone just coming to the site for the first time, or for someone who hasn't been to the forums for a bit, it can be daunting reading through dozens of pages. It would be nice to skip through a thread, to find the posts that are the most interesting. That is where the new "Like" feature comes in!

To the bottom right of every post, you now see a little, simple "Like" link:
(See the little red "Like" link to the bottom right over the screenshot below)


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If you like the post you read, you are encouraged to click the link! That's it!

What does this do? It creates a "Like Tree" at the very top right of a thread:

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When you click on the "Like Tree", you see a list of posts in that thread that people have liked.

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As an example, I've gone to the "Visually Humourous Piece of the Day (http://www.ehmac.ca/everything-else-eh/62220-visually-humourous-piece-day.html)" and have gone through about 50 pages, and have "Liked" the posts I found the most humourous. If you go there, and click on the "Like Tree", you'll see those posts, and there you can select one of the posts to view.

Over time, the more that members "Like" posts they've read, the more useful this feature may be. Someone coming up to a large thread for the first time, will quickly see the most interesting posts in a thread.

Also, one more interesting tidbit, under your "Your Notifications" link in the top right of each screen, there's an area where you can see any new "Likes" that you have received.

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Start "Liking" away! :)

I find this feature too FaceBooky and distracting. Would be nice if it could be an option to turn off at will.

Someone just "liked" my previous post and I thought I had a Private Message, but it was just a report that I had a "like." So I guess they're indistinguishable from PMs in the alert section. Would be nice to see that separated into types of alerts if the feature can't be turned off.

The "like" is gone now.

I just "liked" your last post to mess with ya.

It did mess with me. I was waiting for a PM and went in to check the message notification, only to find your sloppy kiss waiting for me there.

As long as it has nothing to do with facebook.

Thanks Mr. Mayor. Seems like a nice feature.

I am sure that it is likely that we loyal ehMacers will encourage a fine tune to the set-up, but nice all the same.

Thanks again for all that you do!

It did mess with me. I was waiting for a PM and went in to check the message notification, only to find your sloppy kiss waiting for me there.

Well I hope you enjoyed it. Pardon the sloppiness, it sometimes happens when I'm in my cups.

I find this feature too FaceBooky and distracting. Would be nice if it could be an option to turn off at will.

+1 :mad:
but fortunately, as I normally surf with javascript disabled, most of these garbage gizmos do not bother me.

+1 on the Facebooky thing. It's an irritation at best.

What happens when people love you?

YouTube - Barney - I Love You (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsKO_r76kfQ)

Something is fishy here. If you check out the 19 likes I found in my PM area this morning some of them were "supposedly" liked back in 2007, like the last one shown below. I don't believe a single one of them is real at all, given the feature was not activated until yesterday. And for the record I don't think GA particularly likes anything I post. :D

Thumbs up or thumbs down would be better,
That's what they have on Modern Vespa (http://modernvespa.com/forum/)
However too many thumbs down on there will get you banned.

I find this feature too FaceBooky and distracting. Would be nice if it could be an option to turn off at will.

I agree - actually, please, Mr Mayor, just make this feature go away. It is just a plain pain in the ass. It might amuse 12yr olds but I find it annoying.

+1 on the Facebooky thing. It's an irritation at best.

+2. I don't care particularly if anyone 'likes' what I write....... :rolleyes:

I'd like to de-friend the like button. Is there an option for that?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_JfWPgMk_xGs/TGJvkZcZvTI/AAAAAAAACEs/BCxh0yWlkgo/s320/grumpy+old+man.jpg

I'm pretty sure I could put a button on ehMac, that would cause your Mac to suddenly eject silver out of the optical drive, and certain people would immediately complain it wasn't ejecting gold.

We're going to give the feature a try for awhile. I like it.

Why not just allow members to delete unworthy, uninteresting, unpopular, non-populist posts at will. Lifetime membership= unlimited vetting of the threads and post deletions. Gold= 100 deletions per month. 50 per month Silver. 10 per month Bronze.
I'm sure the membership could eliminate all the boring unnecessary unworthy worthless posts and we would be left with all utopia all the time on ehMac.

SINC: I just got a few of those fake "likes" as well, with some stuff dating back to 2006 tagged at random. Sad stuff.

Like, I really don't like the new, "Like" feature. Like, you know what I mean? :D

Something is fishy here. If you check out the 19 likes I found in my PM area this morning some of them were "supposedly" liked back in 2007, like the last one shown below. I don't believe a single one of them is real at all, given the feature was not activated until yesterday. And for the record I don't think GA particularly likes anything I post. :D

They are all posts in the humourous thread that I gave in the example, so its very possible other members went through that thread and liked the posts they thought were humourous.

They are not "fake" likes or anything fishy. :rolleyes:

SINC: I just got a few of those fake "likes" as well, with some stuff dating back to 2006 tagged at random. Sad stuff.

The more you complain about it, the more I like the feature. :D

Going to try this feature for awhile.

I'm sure the outraged indignation will later subside to the level people where outraged when Apple called their tablet the "iPad"

Whoa... Mr. Mayor with all due respect you shut down a legitimate thread after only a couple of pages for really no good reason at all!? I would think you would want to know what people's opinions are of a new "feature" that you added to the forum.

This seems very heavy handed on your part and I for one am not happy with it.

Whoa... Mr. Mayor with all due respect you shut down a legitimate thread after only a couple of pages for really no good reason at all!? I would think you would want to know what people's opinions are of a new "feature" that you added to the forum.

This seems very heavy handed on your part and I for one am not happy with it.

Give it a rest screature. It's one little feature we're going to try for awhile.

Let's actually use the feature for more than 10 seconds before we all scream bloody murder, and act like its the most horrible thing in the world.

As long as it has nothing to do with facebook.

Thanks Mr. Mayor. Seems like a nice feature.

I am sure that it is likely that we loyal ehMacers will encourage a fine tune to the set-up, but nice all the same.

Thanks again for all that you do!

As above but please, please, please do not include likes with private messages. I want to view my PMs. Likes can certainly wait till I am bored.

Me still no like the new "Like" feature... let's see if this post "survives" or if this thread becomes closed as well.

I "Like" this new feature. Hopefully, it'll stop all the redundant +1-ing (+2, +3, et cetera) of agreeable posts.

I find this "like" feature is one of the single worst features social networking has brought to the internet. A juvenile game of favouritism. I rarely see posts in which people just "+1" the previous post. There is usually additional commentary explaining why they agree.

Why not just port EhMac entirely to a FaceBook wall and be done with it?

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The basic idea seems good:

Quite often, ehMac.ca will have a thread with a topic that becomes popular, and will turn into pages and pages of posts. For someone just coming to the site for the first time, or for someone who hasn't been to the forums for a bit, it can be daunting reading through dozens of pages. It would be nice to skip through a thread, to find the posts that are the most interesting. That is where the new "Like" feature comes in!

I visit ehMac quite regularly but a thread sometimes only interests me after it has become popular and it would be nice to be able to just hit the highlights to get a "feel" of what's going on. The problem is that the "like" feature, the way it is implemented doesn't do that - ie doesn't fulfil its intended purpose.

Here is the first reason:

As an example, I've gone to the "Visually Humourous Piece of the Day" and have gone through about 50 pages, and have "Liked" the posts I found the most humourous. If you go there, and click on the "Like Tree", you'll see those posts, and there you can select one of the posts to view.

What the major might find humerous, I might not, so that doesn't help me. Over time, I'm sure one of the many ehMac members will eventually find the other posts humerous as well, so they will eventually all end up with a "like" tag which makes the feature useless unless their is some weighting attached to it as well - ie a "Like Tree" where only posts show up that have received say ten "likes" or more.

Over time, the more that members "Like" posts they've read, the more useful this feature may be. Someone coming up to a large thread for the first time, will quickly see the most interesting posts in a thread.

Only if there is some weighting of number of likes per post is pert of the feature, but even then it's questionable if this implimentation will fulfil its intended purpose as initially stated by the Mayor.

It begs the basis question - would evough people benefit from this feature to make it worthwhile? Although I liked the idea when I first read it, I now must say my answer would be "No"

Also, one more interesting tidbit, under your "Your Notifications" link in the top right of each screen, there's an area where you can see any new "Likes" that you have
received.
Well, with this part of the implementation, the feature derailed itself completely.
That part is totally contrary to the intended purpose:
For someone just coming to the site for the first time, or for someone who hasn't been to the forums for a bit, it can be daunting reading through dozens of pages. It would be nice to skip through a thread, to find the posts that are the most interesting.

The purpose as stated is to help others find the most interesting posts in a thread - not patting those on the back who received a lot of "likes"

+1

Exactly true.

I've looked at what's been "liked" so far and it's just a jumble of back-patting--no indication that a post has demonstrated any particular quality.

The idea of someone telling me which jokes are the most humorous is worthless in my books. I read entire threads that interest me--the idea that my eyes would be drawn to one particular message because others "liked it" is a non-starter.

The interface has become even more cluttered, and the first thing I received were notifications that some post I made in 2006 had been "liked." I couldn't clear the notification until I checked which thread had been tagged.

I find this "like" feture is one of the single worst features social networking has brought to the internet. A juvenile game of favouritism. I rarely see posts in which people just "+1" the previous post. There is usually additional commentary explaining why they agree.

Why not just port EhMac entirely to a FaceBook wall and be done with it?

+1 I agree. There is almost always additional commentary. Plus there isn't the annoying little "Like" box added to the post and the PM sent to my PM box.

I think the "Like" feature just makes the forum cluttered (and this is just within a few hours of implementation) and it is completely unnecessary and adds no real value to the Forum... Just my opinion, which I think I should be freely allowed to express without censure....

See I posted +1 and added additional commentary, as is usually the case. ;)

The "like" feature reminds me of going back to high school....

It's hasn't even been up a day yet. :rolleyes:

Just try it for awhile.

I'm sure the outraged indignation will later subside to the level people where outraged when Apple called their tablet the "iPad"

I doubt it, as the name of the iPad did not detract from the functionality of the product.

I keep getting "likes" from postings I made one and two years ago. I am starting to really dislike this feature.

Going to say this one last time. It has been up for less than a day.

Just try it for awhile. :rolleyes:

Several other forums its been implemented on, members like it. (No pun intended)

It seems here any time the slightest new feature is implemented, its jumped on a couple seconds after seeing it.

http://safetybriefs.org/wp-content/uploads/old-man.jpg

Just try it for awhile.

Like 2 weeks or so.

But what if you like to dislike things?

I actually welcome the feature. There's lots of times I agree, or someone says something the exact way I would have said it.... this feature could completely rid threads of redundant posts that are carbon copies of previous posters. I welcome that with open arms!

The like feature is a good one once you get used to it. It's also certainly not for 10 year olds. I agree, you should have the option to turn off likes in your notifications, but other than that, it's pretty insignificant in the amount it gets in the way... if you don't like it, don't use it. =)

I should think that "Dislike" would also be a good option, to drive unworthy posts to the bottom of the list, outside of the viewing scope of tender eyes.

it sort of allows one to show they like, or agree with what is posted. SOmetimes that's my reaction, and don't feel like posting just, I agree, or +1, or whatever click/grunt that is appropriate.

I should think that "Dislike" would also be a good option, to drive unworthy posts to the bottom of the list, outside of the viewing scope of tender eyes.

Careful what you wish for, and hope for the ability to turn notifications off.

Careful what you wish for, and hope for the ability to turn notifications off.

Even if the notification function becomes non-functional, I'm man enough to take it.

Even if the notification function becomes non-functional, I'm man enough to take it.

:)

I meant to say, you have pretty good rap skills as well.

Great! So how about a "This item is sold, so let's delete the listing" feature too?

Great! So how about a "This item is sold, so let's delete the listing" feature too?

+1 !!!! Excellent point ! Or at the very least, mark it as SOLD. :rolleyes:

Doing so would make the Classifieds much easier to use.......

+1 !!!! Excellent point ! Or at the very least, mark it as SOLD. :rolleyes:

Doing so would make the Classifieds much easier to use.......

+2 Although I know the Mayor doesn't like to delete posts... unless he doesn't "like" them, then it is fine... ;)

So maybe even just a SOLD section within the Classifieds for items that have been sold and thereby maintaining the posts and the original thread....

+2 Although I know the Mayor doesn't like to delete posts... unless he doesn't "like" them, then it is fine... ;)

So maybe even just a SOLD section within the Classifieds for items that have been sold and thereby maintaining the posts and the original thread....

I've suggested this before--just move the thread to the SOLD section.

I am liking this Like feature, it replaces the posts where someone would go with the Quote and type +1 on some idea from previous post.

I put my Like on liking this feature.

Using +1 is a far better way to agree with a poster's view as it affords you the opportunity to state why you agree or make an additional point. The like feature simply "parrots" an opinion and then triggers a notification that is irritating when one is used to only a PM doing the same.

Using +1 is a far better way to agree with a poster's view as it affords you the opportunity to state why you agree or make an additional point. The like feature simply "parrots" an opinion and then triggers a notification that is irritating when one is used to only a PM doing the same.

I agree with the notification issue, that should be removed otherwise no harm, and if you have to make additional point then the reply button is there otherwise just replying with +1 the Like feaure is cleaner.

Mr. Mayor my vote is to remove the notification part of the Like feature.

I am liking this Like feature, it replaces the posts where someone would go with the Quote and type +1 on some idea from previous post.

I put my Like on liking this feature.

It replaces their post, but doesn't convey a sense of agreement to others, since their agreement or "LIKE" is now often pages behind where everyone else is on that thread. At least "+1" is more immediate and works with the flow of the thread.

I should think that "Dislike" would also be a good option, to drive unworthy posts to the bottom of the list, outside of the viewing scope of tender eyes.

I am in flavor of a "Dislike" option as it only seems fair. If we only have the option to "like", something how is this a true/balanced reflection of opinion...

I guess the "like" only feature fits within the Mayors concept of ehMac as being only a "positive" place. Really? :rolleyes:

But I think the reality is if people could only click on a "Dislike" button it would reduce the amount of "flamed" posts and the subsequent fallout of nasty back and forth postings.

If the Mayor wants to truly make this a "kinder gentler" forum then I think a "Dislike" option would go a long way towards accomplishing that goal more than just a "Like" feature alone. It is all about yin and yang, black and white, thesis and antithesis etc...

Provide a balanced approach and even I, a "dissenter" to the "like" feature may be interested in using it/participating. Without balance I have no interest at all.

It seems to me that the 'Like' feature is harmless, and easily ignored by those who don't wish to use it.

It's noteworthy that out of the thousands of posters on these boards only a tiny cabal of anti-likers are making a persistent and vociferous fuss out of all proportion to their number. We've got a thread in the 'Anything Mac' forum that's been dragged into the fray.

I am in flavor[sic] of a "Dislike" option as it only seems fair. If we only have the option to "like", something how is this a true/balanced reflection of opinion...

Fairness and balance? 'Dislike' is a harsh term implying hostility. I'm surprised that you, s, with an aversion to vitriol, should suggest the use of such language.

But I think the reality is if people could only click on a "Dislike" button it would reduce the amount of "flamed" posts and the subsequent fallout of nasty back and forth postings.

I think it would result in massive ructions leading to bannings, thread-lockings and a lot of extra work for the Mayor in trying to keep everything calm, ehMac being his domain.

Without balance I have no interest at all.

You could always post a rebuttal of the offending article, or enter a '-1' type of response.

Nope. "Dislike" is something we should all dislike.

oh now you've done it.

I just don't see why, all the drama over, such a wee thing.

How about an "Indifferent" button? ;)

It seems to me that the 'Like' feature is harmless, and easily ignored by those who don't wish to use it.

It's noteworthy that out of the thousands of posters on these boards only a tiny cabal of anti-likers are making a persistent and vociferous fuss out of all proportion to their number. We've got a thread in the 'Anything Mac' forum that's been dragged into the fray.



Fairness and balance? 'Dislike' is a harsh term implying hostility. I'm surprised that you, s, with an aversion to vitriol, should suggest the use of such language.



I think it would result in massive ructions leading to bannings, thread-lockings and a lot of extra work for the Mayor in trying to keep everything calm, ehMac being his domain.



You could always post a rebuttal of the offending article, or enter a '-1' type of response.

Nope. "Dislike" is something we should all dislike.

Dislike is a contentious term to be associated with vitriol? Give me a break...

Again the ruckus was not caused by the "like" feature, it was caused by the mayors actions associated with closing and moving threads... do try and keep up SQ. ;)

I stand by my position that a dislike option may result in less flaming. We will most likely never know.

Dislike is a contentious term to be associated with vitriol? Give me a break...

I merely refer to your apparent disdain for what you perceive to be vitriol (implying bitterness) in contrast with your apparently being at ease with 'dislike' (implying hostility). Indeed, please take a break ... and perhaps take a dictionary with you.

Again the ruckus was not caused by the "like" feature, it was caused by the mayors actions associated with closing and moving with threads... try and keep up SQ.

I'm not sure what specific 'ruckus' you are referring to. Your reply, a model of clarity in all other aspects, is a little opaque here. Try again?

I just don't see why, all the drama over, such a wee thing.
It's the old Wyle E. Coyote thing. Wait for a delivery marked "Acme 'Like' Exterminator".

I merely refer to your apparent disdain for what you perceive to be vitriol (implying bitterness) in contrast with your apparently being at ease with 'dislike' (implying hostility). Indeed, please take a break ... and perhaps take a dictionary with you.

I'm not sure what specific 'ruckus' you are referring to. Your reply, a model of clarity in all other aspects, is a little opaque here. Try again?

Sigh... the suggestion of a Dislike button was merely meant as being in contrast to a Like button as in not liking something:

dis-
prefix
1 expressing negation : dislike | disquiet.

...take a dictionary indeed. :rolleyes:

Cripes even Facebook uses the Dislike button in exactly the manner I suggested.

As for it creating "flaming" posts if the Dislike button generated an anonymous dislike notice, potential problem solved.

Like I said try and keep up... I am not about to rehash the entire series of events that occurred last week-end. If you are unaware read the thread(s) (consolidated, moved and unlocked by the Mayor under the new title) for yourself.

Any new website features or improvements members would like to see? (http://www.ehmac.ca/info-centre/93005-any-new-website-features-improvements-members-would-like-see.html)

facebook uses a dislike?

that's a new one to me.

I Dislike Snapple Quaffer's posts on this page.

you rebel you.

Sigh... the suggestion of a Dislike button was merely meant as being in contrast to a Like button as in not liking something:

Well, 'dislike' is an inappropriate term. 'Not liking' and 'disliking' are different. Maybe you only see black (dislike) and white (like), but there's a whole world of shades of grey in between. I might not like your posts, but that does not necessarily mean I dislike them. (That, by the by, is a hypothetical example, before you get yourself into a frenzy of imagined vitriol.) I don't like white wine, but I don't dislike it.

Cripes even Facebook uses the Dislike button in exactly the manner I suggested.

This isn't Facebook - thanks be.

As for it creating "flaming" posts if the Dislike button generated an anonymous dislike notice, potential problem solved.

No, potential problem exacerbated.

Like I said try and keep up... I am not about to rehash the entire series of events that occurred last week-end. If you are unaware read the thread(s) (consolidated, moved and unlocked by the Mayor under the new title) for yourself.

Any new website features or improvements members would like to see? (http://www.ehmac.ca/info-centre/93005-any-new-website-features-improvements-members-would-like-see.html)

Thank you for your helpful suggestion, which is, however, entirely redundant. I read the posts in that thread, but clumsily and unforgivably forgot to alert you to the fact. That thread became full of repetitively inflammatory, and in some cases, mischievous, huffing and puffing.

What a few folk seem to forget is that EhMax can do what he likes. There are some who might pay heed to his invitation:
For those who keep insisting the Mubarak comparisons are valid and justified, your opinions are completely null and void to me. I sincerely hope that there are features on ehMac that keep irritating you to the point that you leave. Please, delete your bookmarks on the way out. Your negativity and over the top hyperbole is probably keeping sane, well meaning people away from the site and driving others away.

... Sentiments oft thought tho' ne'er so well expressed.

Well, 'dislike' is an inappropriate term. 'Not liking' and 'disliking' are different. Maybe you only see black (dislike) and white (like), but there's a whole world of shades of grey in between. I might not like your posts, but that does not necessarily mean I dislike them. (That, by the by, is a hypothetical example, before you get yourself into a frenzy of imagined vitriol.) I don't like white wine, but I don't dislike it.



This isn't Facebook - thanks be.



No, potential problem exacerbated.

Thank you for your helpful suggestion, which is, however, entirely redundant. I read the posts in that thread, but clumsily and unforgivably forgot to alert you to the fact. That thread became full of repetitively inflammatory, and in some cases, mischievous, huffing and puffing.

What a few folk seem to forget is that EhMax can do what he likes. There are some who might pay heed to his invitation:


... Sentiments oft thought tho' ne'er so well expressed.

You are splitting hairs my friend... you seem to think yourself the "wizard of words" at the expense of trying to comprehend what someone is saying to you.

Communication is a two way street and language an all too imperfect means of trying to relay what we are thinking/feeling to another sentient being. This imperfection/difficulty is only compounded when the "listener" chooses to focus on a narrowly defined meaning of words and not actually try to understand what the other person is saying in common parlance within its associated context.

Dislike is an existing feature on other social networking web sites and Forums. It is used and understood by millions of users, if you choose to get "hung up" on the semantics of the word that it your choice. I would suggest to you that is a deliberate attempt on your part to be argumentative for argument sake and not for comprehension or good communication.

I see no way in which an anonymous "dislike" would exacerbate flaming.

EhMax is free to do as he chooses and we should be free to express our opinions in regards to those actions... "What a few folk seem to forget."

Well, 'dislike' is an inappropriate term. 'Not liking' and 'disliking' are different. Maybe you only see black (dislike) and white (like), but there's a whole world of shades of grey in between. I might not like your posts, but that does not necessarily mean I dislike them. (That, by the by, is a hypothetical example, before you get yourself into a frenzy of imagined vitriol.) I don't like white wine, but I don't dislike it.

Wahhhhh. Even the word LIKE has shades of grey! Now we can't even use that one --and still make ourselves understood.

actually, I had a look around, and while perhaps, this "dislike" feature may be somewhere, I don't see it anywhere on any of popular social net sites I participate on.

One thing I -do- know. What an estimated 500 million users know, is a like feature, just like (*cough*) the one here, works just the same way. When someone likes my link, status, or whatever, I get a little notification in my top bar, and, there is -no- dislike button anywhere, unless I'm using a version of facebook that is, different.

I find the heart and the "lie" far too cutsie for a site like ehMac.
After all, this isn't supposed to be a love-in.

If the mayor really wants to continue with this concept which actually adds nothing to the ehMac forum at all, I would suggest he just uses the more common and generic

http://ksuslib.typepad.com/.a/6a00e39820921188330128771668c0970c-800wi

and

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2f/Thumbs-down-icon.png


The way it is implemented right now, with the hearts and the notification and the note with the post itself as to who liked it, is very much a Facebook implementation and doesn't even meet the original purpose of this feature as stated by the Mayor himself.

I find the heart and the "lie" far too cutsie for a site like ehMac.
After all, this isn't supposed to be a love-in....



Apparently it is...

You are splitting hairs my friend...

Et tu ... ? But, to be serious, yes, I am separating these two hairs - namely 'not like' and 'dislike' - arising as they do from two different follicles.
I don't like 'dislike'.
These forums here have enough delicate, fractious types who take umbrage at the most trivial, and often imaginary, slights, that saying 'dislike' to them would be taken as tantamount to a full-blooded declaration of hostilities.
... you seem to think yourself the "wizard of words" at the expense of trying to comprehend what someone is saying to you.

No sir! You have absolutely zero notion of what I think of myself. I comprehend, but do not have to agree with, what you are saying.

Dislike is an existing feature on other social networking web sites and Forums.

Entirely irrelevant in the context of ehMac.
I would suggest to you that is a deliberate attempt on your part to be argumentative for argument sake and not for comprehension or good communication.

Your suggestion is incorrect. It is entirely in the pursuit of comprehension and communication that I have raised the distinction between 'dislike' and 'not like', and also my aversion to 'dislike'. It's plain enough.

Et tu ... ? But, to be serious, yes, I am separating these two hairs - namely 'not like' and 'dislike' - arising as they do from two different follicles.
I don't like 'dislike'.
These forums here have enough delicate, fractious types who take umbrage at the most trivial, and often imaginary, slights, that saying 'dislike' to them would be taken as tantamount to a full-blooded declaration of hostilities.


No sir! You have absolutely zero notion of what I think of myself. I comprehend, but do not have to agree with, what you are saying.



Entirely irrelevant in the context of ehMac.


Your suggestion is incorrect. It is entirely in the pursuit of comprehension and communication that I have raised the distinction between 'dislike' and 'not like', and also my aversion to 'dislike'. It's plain enough.

I guess you don't appreciate the notion on anonymity...

Entirely relevant within the context of the world we live in...

Again:

dis-
prefix
1 expressing negation : dislike | disquiet.

Is not, not, an expression of negation?

not |nät|
adverb
1 (also n't joined to a preceding verb) used with an auxiliary verb or “be” to form the negative : he would not say | she isn't there | didn't you tell me?
• used in some constructions with other verbs : [with infinitive ] he has been warned not to touch | the pain of not knowing | she not only wrote the text but also researched the photographs.
2 used as a short substitute for a negative clause : maybe I'll regret it, but I hope not | “Don't you keep in touch?” “I'm afraid not.” | they wouldn't know if I was telling the truth or not.
3 used to express the negative of other words : not a single attempt was made | treating the symptoms and not the cause | “How was it?” “Not so bad.”
• used with a quantifier to exclude a person or part of a group : not all the poems are serious.
• less than (used to indicate a surprisingly small quantity) : the brakes went on not ten feet from him.
4 used in understatements to suggest that the opposite of a following word or phrase is true : the not too distant future | not a million miles away.
• informal humorous following and emphatically negating a statement : that sounds like quality entertainment—not. [ORIGIN: a usage popularized by the film Wayne's World.]

dis as a prefix is/can be (and certainly is within its use in the word dislike) equivalent to not, your argument does not stand the "sniff" test of logic. To dislike like something is to not like it replete with the shades of grey that language provides.


We will have to agree to disagree... not agree. ;)

I guess you don't appreciate the notion on[sic] anonymity...

Well, I most certainly do 'appreciate' anonymity, both in the sense of 'understanding' it, and in the sense of 'valuing' it. What this cryptic comment has to do with my post or even this series of posts escapes me.

You do rather have a way of pontificating about me and what motivates me, that is both perplexing and incorrect.

Anyway, notwithstanding the hilarious knots of 'dis' and 'not' with which you have entangled yourself, and to simplify my position:

The phrase 'not liking' in written English carries the notion of 'absence of liking'.
'Dislike', which is an active verb, carries a dose of hostility.

There is a difference. I accept that you just can't see it.

'Dislike' has no place on ehMac, whatever anyone thinks of the 'Like' feature.

Oh, and you're right. We disagree.

Well, I most certainly do 'appreciate' anonymity, both in the sense of 'understanding' it, and in the sense of 'valuing' it. What this cryptic comment has to do with my post or even this series of posts escapes me.

You do rather have a way of pontificating about me and what motivates me, that is both perplexing and incorrect.

Anyway, notwithstanding the hilarious knots of 'dis' and 'not' with which you have entangled yourself, and to simplify my position:

The phrase 'not liking' in written English carries the notion of 'absence of liking'.
'Dislike'...which is an active verb, carries a dose of hostility.

There is a difference. I accept that you just can't see it.

'Dislike' has no place on ehMac, whatever anyone thinks of the 'Like' feature.

Oh, and you're right. We disagree.

Do you even read the posts in a thread? Other than to point out obvious typographical errors. It is rather humorous that you are such a stickler for inconsequential details when you can miss whole portions of a post that are of relevance.

Post #58 (http://www.ehmac.ca/info-centre/92998-new-post-like-feature-ehmac-ca-neat-like-tree-6.html#post1062565)

....As for it creating "flaming" posts if the Dislike button generated an anonymous dislike notice, potential problem solved....

Re: You do rather have a way of pontificating about me and what motivates me, that is both perplexing and incorrect.

I do not. Nothing was said in the form of a definitive declarative statement... check the record... I said things in term of "it seems" and "I guess" no pontificating, unlike you who derisively suggest I carry a dictionary. In every case I made it clear I was basing my post on my impression of your post. Which to my eyes seemed to always carry a healthy dose of sarcasm and derision.

'Dislike'... carries a dose of hostility... Well in your interpretation that appears to be the case, not in mine, thus why we disagree. Is there any more hostility in saying we disagree as opposed to saying we do not agree?

I didn't realize you make the rules with regards to what does or does not have a place on ehMac, thanks for letting me know Mr. Mayor. ;)

i keep for just such an occasion

Do you even read the posts in a thread?
Sigh ... Yes, in reply to your peevish and condescending question.
'Dislike'... carries a dose of hostility Well in your interpretation that appears to be the case, not in mine thus why we disagree. Is there any more hostility in saying we disagree as opposed to saying we do not agree?
Disagreement generally has a stronger connotation than merely not agreeing. There might well be a degree of hostility ... or there might not. But, lets not over-egg things and conflate 'dislike' with 'disagree', eh?
I didn't realize you make the rules with regards to what does or does not have a place on ehMac, thanks for letting me know.
Well, I'll be danged! I thought EhMax did. Thanks for letting me know. OTH, you were the one pushing for a 'Dislike' option, mainly, it seems on the threadbare grounds that you didn't like the 'Like' feature. How's your crusade coming along?

Are your posts getting a little tetchy? That's not to say that I dislike them, nor do I feel vitriolic in response.

Sigh ... Yes, in reply to your peevish and condescending question.

Disagreement generally has a stronger connotation than merely not agreeing. There might well be a degree of hostility ... or there might not. But, lets not over-egg things and conflate 'dislike' with 'disagree', eh?

Well, I'll be danged! I thought EhMax did. Thanks for letting me know. OTH, you were the one pushing for a 'Dislike' option, mainly, it seems on the threadbare grounds that you didn't like the 'Like' feature. How's your crusade coming along?

Are your posts getting a little tetchy? That's not to say that I dislike them, nor do I feel vitriolic in response.

Oh really... more peevish and condescending than suggesting one carry a dictionary? :rolleyes:

Yet you fail to admit your obvious omission in the reading of posts that were made to you interestingly enough.

You fail to make any convincing arguments to point out any significant differences between the prefix dis as it is used in the English language and not in the context of the words under discussion.

Pushing...? Hardly. One post until you came along 3 days after the fact. I am bored by this now, it was fun, shall we move along... I suspect we both have better things to do.

I want an active "dislike" with a pitchfork or a little devil's head. It would indicate that I whole-heartedly despise the content of the post.

i keep for just such an occasion

Hey GT—what happened to the crazy cat avatar? This one just seems so…sedated.

that's actually my cat. She's far, far from 'sedated' trust me :)

i keep for just such an occasion

And another variation…

this one cracks me really hard.

Yet you fail to admit your obvious omission in the reading of posts that were made to you interestingly enough.
No, no! I admitted that I had read the wretched post that you are so proud of.
Don't you ever read replies to your posts?

You fail to make any convincing arguments to point out any significant differences between the prefix dis as it is used in the English language and not in the context of the words under discussion.
You have failed to realise that the whole thrust of my posts has been to argue that there is a difference between 'dislike' and 'not like'. You have failed to be convinced. That's all. Not to worry.

I am bored by this now, it was fun, shall we move along ... I suspect we both have better things to do.
OK. And yes, it was fun. it was 'bully', as that old brute Roosevelt was wont to say.

P.S.
I noticed the cheeky little edit you made to your puling jibe about me making up rules:
Original: I didn't realize you make the rules with regards to what does or does not have a place on ehMac, thanks for letting me know.
Edited version:I didn't realize you make the rules with regards to what does or does not have a place on ehMac, thanks for letting me know Mr. Mayor. :)

I want an active "dislike" with a pitchfork or a little devil's head. It would indicate that I whole-heartedly despise the content of the post.

Attaboy, MF! You have illustrated, with hyperbolic flair, the point that 'Dislike' would be an inflammatory device. Well done!

No, no! I admitted that I had read the wretched post that you are so proud of.
Don't you ever read replies to your posts?


You have failed to realise that the whole thrust of my posts has been to argue that there is a difference between 'dislike' and 'not like'. You have failed to be convinced. That's all. Not to worry.


OK. And yes, it was fun. it was 'bully', as that old brute Roosevelt was wont to say.

P.S.
I noticed the cheeky little edit you made to your puling jibe about me making up rules:
Original: I didn't realize you make the rules with regards to what does or does not have a place on ehMac, thanks for letting me know.
Edited version:I didn't realize you make the rules with regards to what does or does not have a place on ehMac, thanks for letting me know Mr. Mayor. :)

Wretched post? Proud of? My, my who is getting a little tetchy? ;)

I fully realise exactly what the thrust of your argument was it is just wrong in my opinion.

BTW, The edit was conducted while you were making your post it was as it appears now by the time your post was completed.

Wretched post? Proud of? My, my who is getting a little tetchy? ;)
Tetchy? :lmao: I can assure you there has been no bad temper on my part - far from it.

BTW, The edit was conducted while you were making your post it was as it appears now by the time your post was completed.

That is quite acceptable. A twinge from l'esprit d'escalier can always be assuaged by a quick and furtive edit.

Tetchy? :lmao: I can assure you there has been no bad temper on my part - far from it.



That is quite acceptable. A twinge from l'esprit d'escalier can always be assuaged by a quick and furtive edit.

I had not heard that expression before nor the story associated with it. I "Like" it. :D

Attaboy, MF! You have illustrated, with hyperbolic flair, the point that 'Dislike' would be an inflammatory device. Well done!

Have I ever deviated form this position? It's certainly not some cartoon bear trap I accidentally stepped into!

The "Like" feature looks pretty interesting. As long as ehMac as a whole doesn't change, I will be happy. Really like the current ehMac design! As for the "Like" feature, it seems to be nice. It will take some time for me to get used to.

It always goes something like this.

Tetchy.

More tetchy.

Mood swings.

:lmao: Good ones fjnmusic.

I suggest we add a "Lump" button.

I dare not ask.

I'm cool wid it as long as the drama queens don't go ballistic over it.

I want a "Goat" button.

BUT, no Dislump and no Disgoat buttons?

Good.

Passed nem con.

Next?

I want a "coup d'etat" button.

And one of those l'esprit d'escalier buttons, which allow you to insert witticisms prior to the target post.

A quel ennui button would be great. It could be used for all kinds of things.

I'd like to see a "Let's get married in Vegas...tonight" button, for the poster whose words convince you that he or she is your soulmate.

I'd like to see a "Let's get married in Vegas...tonight" button, for the poster whose words convince you that he or she is your soulmate.

Now you're talking !!!

:lmao:

Thanks for the feedback.

There is going to be an update to the software / "Like" feature, where we'll be able to turn off notifications. If it doesn't come out in the next couple of weeks, I'll temporarily disable it. There will be a few other tweaks to it as well.

I want an "Epic Thread" button.

....and in English!

I want a "coup d'etat" button.]

l'esprit d'escalier button

A quel ennui button

Otherwise include:

calise

tabarnak

marde

Hey, kps, my parents used those last three words all the time when I was growing up, but they wouldn't tell us what they meant. Care to enlighten us Anglos?

Your parents were wise...

Google translate is your friend.;)

Sheesh marde tabarnak it's not calise - it's calice or calisse. :)