But it doesn't do FLASH, groovetube. ;) (100% kidding... :D )

oh it will.

(100% not kidding, and looking forward to the gnashing of teeth... :greedy:)

YES!
Order confirmation received. iP4 on the way :-)

congrats, hopefully I can get a 32gb tomorrow

Now I have 2 iP4s on the way to me :-)

I hope the Rogers phone gets here soon so I can cancel my order direct from apple.
Maybe it's worth getting the apple phone anyway and selling it ;-)
Nice to have decisions like that to make!

Now I have 2 iP4s on the way to me :-)

I hope the Rogers phone gets here soon so I can cancel my order direct from apple.
Maybe it's worth getting the apple phone anyway and selling it ;-)
Nice to have decisions like that to make!

From what I've seen the market for iPhone 4s on Kijiji has slowed down. I bought mine for $700 in brand new condition. I've seen many going for between $600-$650 carrier locked. This is in Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge

I'm curious. Why would people buy a carrier locked phone for such a high price? Just availability?

I was thinking that the unlocked apple iP4 could be sold to the US market.
Probably not worth the bother for a few $$$ though.

I donno, if stock is suddenly really heavy, reselling a phone biz will drop pretty hard.

I was thinking today after my excitement had subsided that maybe rogers had over sold the iPhone 4 and it might be like they did last time where you order Sept 9 and receive it 2-3 weeks later. I really hope this isn't the case so everyone that ordered yesterday/today please let us know when you receive your phone. Yesterday when i was on the phone with the rep I asked did they physically have them and she said yes, she also mentioned that since I live in Toronto i will get mine faster since they ship from toronto. We will see........

Fido still has 16gbs

Hope you'll all get your iP4s asap.
Keep us updated.

I won't rush to cancel my apple order just yet :-)

I'll post when the shipping notice is sent.

I was told that they would most likely ship on Thursday.

i was told 24 to 48 hours max. I also heard at the rogers store I was at monday, they were getting "hundreds of phones for sure on thursday".

I'm curious. Why would people buy a carrier locked phone for such a high price? Just availability?

I was thinking that the unlocked apple iP4 could be sold to the US market.
Probably not worth the bother for a few $$$ though.

Carrier locked is really not that big of a deal. It's another thing if someone is trying to sell a plan with it, but being locked a carrier that a buyer might already use doesn't seem like that big of a deal.

i was told 24 to 48 hours max. I also heard at the rogers store I was at monday, they were getting "hundreds of phones for sure on thursday".

And what location was that ????

ted rogers way and bloor.

ted rogers way and bloor.


Thank You for sharing. We shall see. At least i am not far away.

that's what the lady at the desk told me. Don't shoot me if it's incorrect.

For those of us who managed to score a phone yesterday - will we still be eligible to receive the free case from Apple?

Purchased before the 30th but likely won't receive the phone until after.

Anybody seeing any Bell phones anywhere? Especially in Ottawa?

anyone get a ship notice?

anyone get a ship notice?

nope....

tick tock....

anyone get a ship notice?

I ordered a 32G from Rogers (retentions) yesterday morning. The order confirmation came immediately and says to allow 7 days for processing. I wasn't expecting any shipping notice for at least 3 or 4 days.

I got my order conf yesterday and a friend placed an order today so Rogers still has stock today.

It will be interesting to see how long before they are out.

i was told it would ship within 24 hours ( roughly now) and she said "should have it by friday"

For those of us who managed to score a phone yesterday - will we still be eligible to receive the free case from Apple?

Purchased before the 30th but likely won't receive the phone until after.

I'm counting on this being true. Our purchase, as I too managed to order one via an attempted cancellation, was made before the 30th.

i was told it would ship within 24 hours ( roughly now) and she said "should have it by friday"

Out of curiosity, what does your automated order confirmation email say? Does it also say to please allow up to 7 business days for your order to be shipped?

Bell announced today that all their stores, as well as The Source will be getting lots of phones today. And they're taking care of the waiting lists first. So if everything goes right, I should be getting my phone today. :clap:

Great to hear all these iphones arriving.
It seems that at last the stock is catching up with the demand!

... and it only took 2 months.

Out of curiosity, what does your automated order confirmation email say? Does it also say to please allow up to 7 business days for your order to be shipped?

it too says 7 days, but who knows i was counting on verbal, in reality if its next week, whatever, at leas i am spared trip to the apple store, i absolutely hate that pace! Overrun with people not buying things and disorganized as hell!

Just got my shipping notification from Rogers. Ordered Sept 28th. Shipped Sept 29th.

yep. Me too.

Mass email?

Just got my shipping notification from Rogers. Ordered Sept 28th. Shipped Sept 29th.

Same here. Shipping email just showed up.

Same here. Shipping email just showed up.

Same here

Just got my shipping notification from Rogers. Ordered Sept 28th. Shipped Sept 29th.

me too!

so would think friday since its still just docs received...

I should hopefully be getting mine soon, in my order there were 4 phones, 3 iphones and a cheap nokia phone. the nokia came already and no word about the iphones, but if all goes right I may have it by end of this week or next week, I hope.

Congrats everyone on joining the iPhone 4 club!

Maybe now all the conspiracy theories about how Apple stockpiles random iPhones in a warehouse somewhere will disappear - like they should. :D

actually this might bolster that theory

Rogers retentions just received some iPhones give them a call right now and order one. My brother phoned for himself and then got the rep to phone me and do my upgrade. Get on the phone everyone. direct line to retentions is 1-866-304-4248.
Your welcome......:D

Thanks for letting us know. Lots of happy people now!

Just met a Rogers salesman who confirmed that most stores will be getting BIG shipments by the end of the week (20-50)!

Rogers Red Board:
UPDATE (September 29, 2010, 1:43 PM): Good news for those of you who have been unable to secure an iPhone 4: another shipment is starting to arrive in stores today.

We encourage you to head down to a Rogers retailer to pick one up over the next 24 hours or so. As always, we recommend you contact your local store first to ensure stock is available.

Our goal is to get an iPhone 4 to every customer who wants one.

Keith McArthur is Senior Director of Social Media at Rogers.

actually this might bolster that theory

Nah, this is demand catching up with supply... abiet slowly.

They sold 100,000 phones in China on launch day. That's pretty much all they make in a day. So all the phones from one day of production sold in only one of the 25+ countries that have the iPhone. That's pretty huge.

Scheduled Delivery Date:09/30/2010

perfect!

Scheduled Delivery Date:09/30/2010

perfect!

Wow. My delivery date is Oct 5th, but I'm on the west coast. It will be kind of ironic if I walk by a Rogers store this week and find out I could have just walked in and got one!

I have refused to stand in line for this new model but I did want one. With the rumour that significant numbers were about to be released I phoned a nearby Rogers store yesterday and they had some. I chose the 32gb model as I assume that the camera upgrade will cause me to take more photos. I was dealt with by the store manager and he told me that the supply was all tied to the new blackberry release scheduled for tomorrow. The new blackberry was held back three weeks ago and Apple then cancelled shipments of iPhone 4. The store I was in yesterday probably had more than 100 phones and there previous shipments were of the order of 6-10. Happy hunting if you are still looking. My free case has shipped already.

wife just called, mine was just delivered.

Just got notice of a failed delivery, whoops. I guess I'll be working from home tomorrow!

all set and waiting for sim card to be activated...

i guess the BB Torch was released today and clogging up the system...

that said the display is great! I shall fiddle with the camera while i wait...

mine activated in 5 seconds.

wow, i had to call and then it took 40 after that, but apparently the sim was not on my account properly or something...

mine got here today ordered a week ago (sept 23) on bell

It's great that so many more people are getting their iPhones now! I have been having a lot of fun playing with mine over the past week. For those of you who got your iPhone today, don't forget to order your free case!

just ordered it. Guess I got in on the last day.

It's a great phone, certainly coming from a 3G. Bit a small meh though, having played with a number of new devices.

The camera though, is a huge update. It's about time,

Received the iP4 today.

I did have to call Rogers for activation but all is good now!

I lucked out today and got mine in Brampton. Like 20 phones came into the Rogers Plus store. Everyone got one. About half the people in line though were Rogers employees. Took 3 hours before it activated though and now I'm syncing away.

Yesterday I called a Bell supplier to check on the status of my wife's order... and to add the $30 /6G to the account. The rep said that they received 100 iPhones on Wed and another 100 Yesterday and they would be working overtime to get everyone activated in time to get the $30 data plan.
He said that they would probably be there all weekend and they'll honour the deal until Sunday.

we'll see!:clap:

Good news that the carriers are finally getting more phones. I hope that Rogers customers can finally get a new iPhone 4 without having to wait in line like I had to. A buddy of mine got his yesterday at Futureshop.

Funny: China starts selling iPhones (100K iP4s sold the first day) but we're getting more iP4s here in Canada!

so got phone yesterday, downloaded the case app, selected black apple bumper, it already shipped!

nice!

Production is ramping up. Demand is dropping. Apple's been doubling their orders from the manufacturer - so they can match supply with demand. Just like the with the iPad.

Please let the conspiracy theories be over. I got it with the Wii - there was still a shortage more than a year after introduction - but with iPhone 4 and iPad - it's just supply and demand. iPad has caught up. Now it's iPhone's turn.

And, what everyone seems to be missing is that Apple supplies themselves with the most supply (shocker, I know) - and Apple sells a LOT of unlocked phones in Canada. Demand is HUGE for those - for people wanting to use them in the US or travellers from international countries. So of course supply is less in Canada - demand for the unlocked ones is woefully outstripping supply.

I saw a lady and her like 5 daughters in line at Apple one day - they each bought the "Max" of 2 phones - all unlocked. All to ship back overseas.

"All four Apple retail stores in China are now requiring customers to show identification when purchasing iPhones and imposing a limit of one-per-customer. Store employees will also open and activate the new iPhones on the spot, eliminating the ability for scalpers to resell unopened iPhones."

My, what a novel idea. This really pi$$es me off. Who cares about a few thousand annoyed Canadians. We'll just let 'em stew in that old supply and demand pot.

Oh, I see the prices on CL are coming down nicely.

My, what a novel idea. This really pi$$es me off. Who cares about a few thousand annoyed Canadians. We'll just let 'em stew in that old supply and demand pot.
I'm sorry, but Apple has no say over supply. To say otherwise is crazy conspiracy talk.

I'm sorry, but Apple has no say over supply. To say otherwise is crazy conspiracy talk.

Maybe not, but if they had imposed some basic restrictions on the in store purchases like they're doing in China, there would be a lot more phones available for Canadians. I mean is one per customer too much to ask?? That seems more than elementary for a phone in such high demand. :yikes:

..., but if they had imposed some basic restrictions on the in store purchases like they're doing in China, there would be a lot more phones available for Canadians. I mean is one per customer too much to ask?? That seems more than elementary for a phone in such high demand. :yikes:

+1
They should have registered even the unlocked ones right away in store.

Crystal009, iphoneottawa – BINGO! This has been a product launch nightmare.

I'm sorry, but Apple has no say over supply. To say otherwise is crazy conspiracy talk.

Good one.

Apple has complete say over supply. They are the ones who make/plan production volumes to their suppliers (be it Foxconn, the display manufacturers, or the IC makers). While I do not in any way, shape, or form, ascribe to the "Apple is intentionally limiting supplies" theory, the lack of supply is Apple's fault when speaking on a worldwide basis. Whether it was due to some sort of a component shortage (which Apple should have addressed long before the iPhone 4 went into production), or failures in the production process (which again, Apple should have addressed with Foxconn immediately), all of this indicates that something was missed during the planning and initial production if the iPhone 4. It just may be that the iPhone production was pushed up due to the Gizmodo incident, and that the iPhone 4 was originally planned for an August/September release. With the Gizmodo leak, iPhone 3GS sales tanked, putting pressure on Apple to release the iPhone 4 before all the pieces were in place to produce the iPhone 4 in volume. i personally saw the release of the iPhone 4 to only the 6 initial countries as an indication of that.

Specifically for Canada, the carriers are to blame for many of the problems associated with getting an iPhone 4. Rogers authorization process, unwillingness to allow orders by phone or online, and not allowing for waiting lists are strictly its own fault, for example, and are further factors on top of the global supply problems that are/were Apple issues. I don't think that any of the carriers, and even the Apple stores, ordered anywhere near an adequate supply of iPhones, even if they were available. None of the 5 carriers really promote the iPhone 4 in any significant way; many of them are busy promoting Android phones (over which they have a far greater control than the iPhone 4). I am guessing that the carriers would much prefer to get completely away from the iPhone, if they could; but they can't.

Of course Apple would favor huge emerging markets like China over smaller (dare I say saturated) markets like ours.

Of course Apple would favor huge emerging markets like China over smaller (dare I say saturated) markets like ours.

Apple definitely has to be careful in China because the production is there and to mess up a launch there would be really bad for them, a complete disaster. Obviously the population size is way beyond ours on top of that, but I feel with this launch there was a lot of greed involved.

Like why not limit to one per customer if supply doesn't meet demand? Because they'd make less money, right? And the carriers said, "Let's try to have the most phones for new activations only, because we want as many new customers as possible." And the scalpers, lining up every morning to buy the maximum 2 phones to turn a profit, people buying a 16GB when they really wanted a 32GB, just so they could have one. We could write a best selling book about this! Right or wrong, all this amounts to no phones available.

And the moral of the story is, nothing will change next time so save up and order your next iPhone from Apple unlocked and save yourself the headache. XX)

The launch in China is already a disaster. They ran out of the 100,000 phones that China Unicom had on hand in 2 days. While China has the population base, the iPhone is priced out of reach of much of the population, which is why the launch day in the US saw what, 350000 iPhones sold?

Apple needs to set up another assembly contractor (maybe even two), and fast, if they are to ever catch up with demand. Even with the new production rate of 137,000 units/day, its still going to take them time to catch up.

Kostas

Does bell have supply?

Does bell have supply?

Lots of places got stock this week. Check with your local store? Also check "The Source" stores near you... they often have them. (Yorkdale Source in TO had a sign up yesterday saying they had stock).

The launch in China is already a disaster. They ran out of the 100,000 phones that China Unicom had on hand in 2 days. While China has the population base, the iPhone is priced out of reach of much of the population, which is why the launch day in the US saw what, 350000 iPhones sold? Kostas

According to this report 2015 China will be the world's fourth-largest country in terms of its number of households with substantial purchasing power after the United States, Japan and the United Kingdom.

China still has an appetite for luxury goods - Business - World business - msnbc.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30670835/)

And perhaps the world's largest market for luxury goods?

China to be World’s biggest luxury goods market in 5 yrs | Live Stock Trading News | Equities, Forex, Gold, Silver and Oil Trading (http://www.livetradingnews.com/china-to-be-worlds-biggest-luxury-goods-market-in-5-yrs-13677.htm)

I was watching a recent episode of Macbreak Weekly and Leo Laporte mentioned the funniest thing he saw while in China was walking into a shack (compared to our standards) in one of the outer provinces and seeing a large flat screen television on the wall. So I guess if there is a will there is a way :)

(Yorkdale Source in TO had a sign up yesterday saying they had stock).

They were all gone by 8pm. =/

-TPCM

This has been a product launch nightmare.

lol not a nightmare by any means.
Unless you're one of those "I want one, but not bad enough to go get one" and then complain when the hottest item on the planet doesn't just fall in your lap.
I think Apple is very pleased at the sales numbers and would think the release very far from a nightmare.

It is a nightmare when stores don't have any stock. This is ridiculous. Excuse me for not having 5 hours to spend to wait in a line wait to have someone tell me that they MIGHT be getting some in.... this is a colossal nightmare at that. I feel like im 19 and waiting outside of a club, even though the club is empty inside.

^ Exactly.

It is a nightmare when stores don't have any stock. This is ridiculous. Excuse me for not having 5 hours to spend to wait in a line wait to have someone tell me that they MIGHT be getting some in.... this is a colossal nightmare at that. I feel like im 19 and waiting outside of a club, even though the club is empty inside.

The only people who think this is a nightmare are the people who want one, but can't get one.

It's not a nightmare for Apple or for the shareholders. They can't make these things fast enough, the demand is so high. That's not bad for the company - just shows them they need to work on getting loads more in the supply pipeline before iPhone 5 comes out.

The only people who think this is a nightmare are the people who want one, but can't get one.

It's not a nightmare for Apple or for the shareholders. They can't make these things fast enough, the demand is so high. That's not bad for the company - just shows them they need to work on getting loads more in the supply pipeline before iPhone 5 comes out.

Definitely not a nightmare for Android phone sellers, who can get Apple's sloppy seconds.

If you want one bad enough just order it from the apple.ca store. No lineups, no standing around for hours only to be disapointed. No messing around with carriers and their inefficient processes.

I ordered mine online and i'm glad I did.

If you want one bad enough just order it from the apple.ca store. No lineups, no standing around for hours only to be disapointed. No messing around with carriers and their inefficient processes.

I ordered mine online and i'm glad I did.

I thought of that, but I have a contract with Rogers, which helps to not pay the full price. Can you order online and still pay only the discounted rate?

The only people who think this is a nightmare are the people who want one, but can't get one.

It's not a nightmare for Apple or for the shareholders. They can't make these things fast enough, the demand is so high. That's not bad for the company - just shows them they need to work on getting loads more in the supply pipeline before iPhone 5 comes out.

I'm not going to say it's a "nightmare" for Apple, but it IS bad for Apple in that there are quite a few people who have wanted an iPhone 4, but not badly enough to give up 6-12 hours of their life to get one, or to pay $800 for an unlocked phone. To pull a number out of nowhere, let's say that's 40% of their potential market. If half of those 40% eventually buy a phone a few months later when there's more stock, that's still 20% of their potential market that they have been unable to serve.

They have to balance that against the risk of oversupplying the market, but that's still 20% of the market that's going to either sit out an upgrade, or switch to Android or Windows Phone 7.

As for myself, I finally ordered a phone online but I still have to wait a couple more weeks before it arrives. I'm sort of on the fence as to whether it will be worth it over my semi-broken iPhone 3G, which is a sucky place to be for a $969.54 purchase (once you add AppleCare and taxes).

45 seconds-a call to a Rogers store to see if they got any
X5 days of the week-to make that 45 second call (shoot for noon or 1pm)
=3.75 minutes MAX if you really want one.

If you REALLY REALLY want one, add 20 minutes to that week if you also call retentions.

You either want one (and got it) or you don't REALLY want one.

(times may vary based on other carriers)

I'm not going to say it's a "nightmare" for Apple, but it IS bad for Apple in that there are quite a few people who have wanted an iPhone 4, but not badly enough to give up 6-12 hours of their life to get one, or to pay $800 for an unlocked phone. To pull a number out of nowhere, let's say that's 40% of their potential market. If half of those 40% eventually buy a phone a few months later when there's more stock, that's still 20% of their potential market that they have been unable to serve.

They have to balance that against the risk of oversupplying the market, but that's still 20% of the market that's going to either sit out an upgrade, or switch to Android or Windows Phone 7.

As for myself, I finally ordered a phone online but I still have to wait a couple more weeks before it arrives. I'm sort of on the fence as to whether it will be worth it over my semi-broken iPhone 3G, which is a sucky place to be for a $969.54 purchase (once you add AppleCare and taxes).

I have to agree. I finally got an iphone4, but truthfully, I think many would just give up, and when the galaxy or torch came to rogers, they will have gone that route.

Only really rabid apple fans, and there are many, are willing to do things like line up. But there's a finite number of people willing to do that.

Apple puts out nice phones, but the days of "leg up" and being the only company out there with a super cool smartphone, are fast coming to an end.

I have to agree. I finally got an iphone4, but truthfully, I think many would just give up, and when the galaxy or torch came to rogers, they will have gone that route.

Only really rabid apple fans, and there are many, are willing to do things like line up. But there's a finite number of people willing to do that.

Apple puts out nice phones, but the days of "leg up" and being the only company out there with a super cool smartphone, are fast coming to an end.

But weren't you one of those people who said they were giving up, only to swoop in for a retentions deal when it became easy? I think Apple's losing far less customers than people think.

And it's not just rabid Apple fans. In the Eaton Centre lineups I've seen families, lots of people with blackberries. All these people are (I can only assume) not rabid apple fans or they'd have an iphone already. You can't tell me that a family - mother and 5 daughters - all lining up for 2 phones each - are just rabid Apple fans?

We've also been party to the double-edged sword in Canada of the Factory Unlocked models being available. That makes demand for them much bigger than it would be. And it's not just iPhone 4 - Eaton Centre was sold out of the 8GB unlocked 3GS for weeks as well. Lots of tourists and people with families overseas buying and shipping home or taking home.

And yes, we all know Android is growing exponentially, but it has already got a huge foothold before the iPhone 4 came out, and I'd argue that the iPhone 4 was Apple's biggest demand iphone yet. So I honestly don't see Apple's "leg up" on demand dropping anytime soon due to android, but that's just me.

45 seconds-a call to a Rogers store to see if they got any
X5 days of the week-to make that 45 second call (shoot for noon or 1pm)
=3.75 minutes MAX if you really want one.

If you REALLY REALLY want one, add 20 minutes to that week if you also call retentions.

You either want one (and got it) or you don't REALLY want one.

(times may vary based on other carriers)

That's a very much oversimplified version of reality for most people.

For me, there's the fact that I was out of the country for almost 6 weeks that complicated things.

You need to factor in that most people are going to drive to a few stores and find them out of stock. They maybe they'll call regularly and finally find a place that has stock, only to drive there and find that they're not actually in stock any more. Add in half an hour at least, each time that happens, plus the inefficiency of stopping what you were going to do.

Then there are the people who go line up at a store, only to find that they got there too late, the store didn't receive any stock that day, etc. etc. I was in Toronto last week and swung by the Eaton Centre Apple Store to find that there are still people lining up there for hours every morning, just in case they can snag a phone. That's not news to anyone on this list, but it's crazy, two months after the phone's release.

Sure, you can just call around and get a phone, but that's if you were willing to wait a month or two. If you were able to get a phone that way, you were really lucky and that hasn't been the experience for most people.

I guess I have a bit of a disadvantage as I'm in a small town and am probably 20+ minutes from the nearest Rogers store. I was #2 on the list in the Stratford ON store but they didn't even receive an iPhone 4 until about a week and a half ago. They called me, which was great of them, but they don't hold phones and I knew by the time I got there the phones were going to be sold. That happened twice, but had I gone each time I would have wasted at least an hour each time.

With my time being worth something, I realized I could spend my time (billable hours) driving and calling around, or I could spend it working, making money, and using that money to buy an unlocked phone which would give me greater satisfaction, more freedom, and a higher resale value.

But weren't you one of those people who said they were giving up, only to swoop in for a retentions deal when it became easy? I think Apple's losing far less customers than people think.

And it's not just rabid Apple fans. In the Eaton Centre lineups I've seen families, lots of people with blackberries. All these people are (I can only assume) not rabid apple fans or they'd have an iphone already. You can't tell me that a family - mother and 5 daughters - all lining up for 2 phones each - are just rabid Apple fans?

We've also been party to the double-edged sword in Canada of the Factory Unlocked models being available. That makes demand for them much bigger than it would be. And it's not just iPhone 4 - Eaton Centre was sold out of the 8GB unlocked 3GS for weeks as well. Lots of tourists and people with families overseas buying and shipping home or taking home.

And yes, we all know Android is growing exponentially, but it has already got a huge foothold before the iPhone 4 came out, and I'd argue that the iPhone 4 was Apple's biggest demand iphone yet. So I honestly don't see Apple's "leg up" on demand dropping anytime soon due to android, but that's just me.

I got an iphone before the galaxy came out. If I didn't, I would have gotten the galaxy.

And I'm a fan of apple stuff. Consider the huge numbers that care less than I do.

My point is, if you bothered to read, is that as time passes, gone are the days apple has the smartphone no one has. The next year, will be interesting.

My point is, if you bothered to read, is that as time passes, gone are the days apple has the smartphone no one has. The next year, will be interesting.

I did "bother to read" - thanks, and I see no need for the snarky tone. You said the days when Apple is "the only company out there with a super cool smartphone, are fast coming to an end."

And to that I'd say that Apple's "leg up" will continue. Of course it'll feel competition from Android. But Apple makes *1* product. iPhone. Android is on, what 50+ phones? I don't think Android "software" sales overall are a fair comparison to iPhone Hardware sales. I'd take Samsung Galaxy S phone sales vs. iPhone sales -- Samsung sold 5 million Galaxy S's so far:

Samsung Galaxy S hits 5 million sold worldwide | Electronista (http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/10/05/samsung.galaxy.s.cracks.5m.40.percent.in.us/)

But, the article linked makes the point for me:

the current rate is unlikely to challenge the iPhone directly as Apple already sold 8.4 million iPhones in spring and should have sold more again in the summer. Google has largely counted on collective Android figures for sales superiority rather than leaning on any one company.

Is there a single Android Hardware Device that's sold more than the iPhone? I don't think so. To me, that's a "leg up" - there is no Single Android Hardware Device that's had the same amount of demand as the iPhone... So far. :D

But as for "next year will be interesting" (something I also "bothered to read" - thanks again for the snark) - I bet the iPhone 4 will prove to outsell the 3GS and the iPhone 5 will outsell the 3GS and 4 and any Single Android Device.

If it doesn't, I expect Apple to make swift adjustments - including maybe diversifying the lineup - making an "iPhone Nano" or something -- so it can compete against the multitude of Android-software-based SKUs.

I did "bother to read" - thanks, and I see no need for the snarky tone. You said the days when Apple is "the only company out there with a super cool smartphone, are fast coming to an end."

And to that I'd say that Apple's "leg up" will continue. Of course it'll feel competition from Android. But Apple makes *1* product. iPhone. Android is on, what 50+ phones? I don't think Android "software" sales overall are a fair comparison to iPhone Hardware sales. I'd take Samsung Galaxy S phone sales vs. iPhone sales -- Samsung sold 5 million Galaxy S's so far:

Samsung Galaxy S hits 5 million sold worldwide | Electronista (http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/10/05/samsung.galaxy.s.cracks.5m.40.percent.in.us/)

But, the article linked makes the point for me:



Is there a single Android Hardware Device that's sold more than the iPhone? I don't think so. To me, that's a "leg up" - there is no Single Android Hardware Device that's had the same amount of demand as the iPhone... So far. :D

if you can't take it don't dish it. You started withe snarky tone of "weren't you the one..."

oh the old android's on 50 phones. Whatever. Lame.

Gotta love the apple defence league, who's main agenda, defend apple at all costs, no critiques allowed.

boring.

if you can't take it don't dish it. You started withe snarky tone of "weren't you the one..."

oh the old android's on 50 phones. Whatever. Lame.

Gotta love the apple defence league, who's main agenda, defend apple at all costs, no critiques allowed.

boring.

Really? You present your opinions and then whenever anyone changes them -- with actual facts to back it up -- you haul out the old "Apple Defence League" comments. And I'm the "boring" one? You seem to make the same argument all the time -- if anyone disagrees with you in support of Apple - they're "Apple Defence League". Again and again and again.

I've said good things about Android in my posts -- and totally agree that it's growing and that it's competing with Apple. How does that make me Apple Defence League? I've also said numerous times that competition is good - and people challenging Apple is good.

Just 'cause I don't agree with your (proven false by facts) assertion that iPhone's losing market share and "next year we'll see" that hopefully iPhone's gonna go down 'cause of Android, I have to be labelled some Apple Defence Zealot?

Really? You present your opinions and then whenever anyone changes them -- with actual facts to back it up -- you haul out the old "Apple Defence League" comments. And I'm the "boring" one? You seem to make the same argument all the time -- if anyone disagrees with you in support of Apple - they're "Apple Defence League". Again and again and again.

I've said good things about Android in my posts -- and totally agree that it's growing and that it's competing with Apple. How does that make me Apple Defence League? I've also said numerous times that competition is good - and people challenging Apple is good.

Just 'cause I don't agree with your (proven false by facts) assertion that iPhone's losing market share and "next year we'll see" that hopefully iPhone's gonna go down 'cause of Android, I have to be labelled some Apple Defence Zealot?

what "facts", and what did it have -anything-, whatsoever, to do with what I was talking about?

You trotted out the tired "android is on 50 phones" crap I see all apple defence soldiers shriek the minute someone says something remotely construed as bad about apple.

I am critical of the way apple has supplied their new iphone. It doesn't take a genius to figure out it would be popular, and that great numbers of phones would be required. Instead, people end up either having to line up for hours, often getting nothing (like what happened to me), wait months before receiving one (like I did), or, as I pointed out, very soon, other handset makers, are catching up with their releases, of very similarly specced phones, on other platforms. I don't care, if YOU think apple is best, congratulations!

However, a great deal, of the buying public, may think a galaxy, or torch, or whatever is coming down the pipe over the next 6 to 12 months (which is a LOT trust me), so once again, gone, are the days apple is the only game in town with regards to a really good smartphone. The buying public, couldn't give a rats arse if android is on 50 phones! Only you do, apparently...

I'm not sure what "facts", you apparently posted, has anything, to do with this.

iPhone 4 Supply Begins To Ease, Shipping Times Shorten

http://appadvice.com/appnn/2010/10/iphone-4-supply-begins-ease-shipping-times-shorten/

iPhone 4 Supply Begins To Ease, Shipping Times Shorten

iPhone 4 Supply Begins To Ease, Shipping Times Shorten :: App Advice (http://appadvice.com/appnn/2010/10/iphone-4-supply-begins-ease-shipping-times-shorten/)

Sure, if you live in the US. In Canada they still list a 3 week wait. Not only that, but I ordered my iPhone 4 on September 24 and got an estimated ship date of 18 October, which is actually 3 weeks and 4 days. This really should have been rounded to 4 weeks. Add to that 6 more days (estimated by Apple) to ship, and that brings the total waiting period after ordering to 4 weeks and 3 days. Ouch.

Really? You present your opinions and then whenever anyone changes them -- with actual facts to back it up -- you haul out the old "Apple Defence League" comments. And I'm the "boring" one? You seem to make the same argument all the time -- if anyone disagrees with you in support of Apple - they're "Apple Defence League". Again and again and again.

I've said good things about Android in my posts -- and totally agree that it's growing and that it's competing with Apple. How does that make me Apple Defence League? I've also said numerous times that competition is good - and people challenging Apple is good.

Just 'cause I don't agree with your (proven false by facts) assertion that iPhone's losing market share and "next year we'll see" that hopefully iPhone's gonna go down 'cause of Android, I have to be labelled some Apple Defence Zealot?

Dude, let it go, coming from experience sharing facts with GT, this guy has a nut and/or bolt loose.

In a separate thread on Flash, I showed him direct quotes from his idol that proved him wrong, and he STILL didn't "get it"

Don't feed the troll.

(Even though I too, support all sides of the mobile market, I'm in the Apple Defence League because I believe in "the right tool for the job" instead of 1 specific device or platform)

you never provided anything. You posted a link, made some insinuation that made no sense, and never answered any questions. In fact, the question is still there, right in that thread, with no answer, go have a look.

Who, is the troll?

Yeah.

iPhone 4 Supply Begins To Ease, Shipping Times Shorten

iPhone 4 Supply Begins To Ease, Shipping Times Shorten :: App Advice (http://appadvice.com/appnn/2010/10/iphone-4-supply-begins-ease-shipping-times-shorten/)

it's about time. You'd think they would resolve these issues, -before- release.

sure makes great headlines though. Iphone, SOLD OUT! Lineups, ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY!!!

Sure, if you live in the US. In Canada they still list a 3 week wait. Not only that, but I ordered my iPhone 4 on September 24 and got an estimated ship date of 18 October, which is actually 3 weeks and 4 days. This really should have been rounded to 4 weeks. Add to that 6 more days (estimated by Apple) to ship, and that brings the total waiting period after ordering to 4 weeks and 3 days. Ouch.

I would wait till it's gets closer to the ship date. Apple frequently revises things earlier as the ship date approaches. Happened to many with the bumpers from the free case program.

The "Ships by" date is usually generous - aka the "last possible" ship date.

I think Apple has messed up on this. Their manufacturing is not keeping up with supply, and they are losing sales. I was a sure purchase, but I've all but given up on the game of trying to figure out if anyone has one in stock.

More iP4s on the way:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703735804575536191649347572.html?m od=WSJ_hps_MIDDLETopStories

I finally got mine yesterday - shipped from Rogers' retentions dept.

I have to say I'm blown away by the difference between my 3G and the new 4. The first thing I've noticed (after the display of course) is the speed - everything is very snappy - especially launching apps, loading web pages, and using multi-touch gesturing (e.g. zooming).

One nice surprise is that my iPhone 4 is getting slightly better reception than my 3G, enough that I can use it in my basement now where the 3G wouldn't work at all. Can't say I expected that!

So far I'm pretty happy - it was a bit of a hassle bugging retentions, but there's no way I wanted to stand in line.

I think Apple has messed up on this. Their manufacturing is not keeping up with supply, and they are losing sales. I was a sure purchase, but I've all but given up on the game of trying to figure out if anyone has one in stock.

same here mr. mayor. i was a first day purchaser for the original 3g and couldn't make the early line-up this time for release of the 4... now, several weeks later, and a couple more months into my service contract i really wonder if i want to go for the 4 or wait till next year when it won't be half as bad to get the latest and greatest.

I think Apple has messed up on this. Their manufacturing is not keeping up with supply, and they are losing sales. I was a sure purchase, but I've all but given up on the game of trying to figure out if anyone has one in stock.

yup. It's anyone's guess, as to what the heck went boom to create this problem.

I love the iphone, I really do, I'm knee deep in the apple eco system complete with apple tv, but I was seriously considering a jump to something else, that 3G was just dog slow.

...Sooo, this thread is dead now right? I really hope no one is still checking this thread for stock updates in OCTOBER. That's borderline masochistic.

If you had known just how ridiculous this launch would end up being, what would you do differently? Obviously I would have saved up sooner and pre-ordered mine from Apple. I think that's the plan from now on. :o

i refuse to pay 500 more for a phone when there's no need. if i'm on a 3 year contract, rogers can pay it, not me.

i refuse to pay 500 more for a phone when there's no need. if i'm on a 3 year contract, rogers can pay it, not me.

+1

... and soon you can unlock it in any Mall for $20 so being "unlock" doesn't justify the extra $500

... and will be getting iP5 next summer so why pay full price for iP4

I guess people are still waiting in lines etc. I am in Edmonton visiting a buddy and last night we got talking about the iPhone4 and he said he wants one but the queues are still too big. He has 2 mates that work at locations that sell the iPhone 4 and they said people are still queueing - so I guess the thread is still valid LOL.

We talked about the 'not recommended' status by Consumer Reports and knowing the phone has issues in some locations... so he decided to do like me and wait for the next release. It's hard to wait as we both are gadget geeks but what's a few months LOL

I called retentions at the direct number posted in this thread and said I wanted to move back to TELUS because I can order an IP4 online there. They jostled a bit but then said 'oh wait, there is an IP4 in stock'. By the time we sorted out the plan, though, it was gone (this was maybe 2pm PST). Oh well, it was only the 16GB version.

I asked for them to track our conversation in their incident tracker and he gave me an incident number. He said to call back on Monday or Friday as that seems to be when cel phone stock comes in.

I called on thursday and got someone who wouldn't give an inch. they said the last agent must have been on crack to say any IP4s were in stock.

I called on Friday (again referring to the incident number). They said I was a long time Rogers customer and they would happily check theri stock. Boom: a 32Gig is on its way.

I never received the confirmation e-mail, but he IP4 arrived on Tuesday. It is definately snappier than the 3g.

- d

+1

... and soon you can unlock it in any Mall for $20 so being "unlock" doesn't justify the extra $500

... and will be getting iP5 next summer so why pay full price for iP4

What's worth it for some isn't for others. Cool. Everyone should do what they want with their money.

Ok - I broke down - couldn't wait any longer - so I walked up to a Rogers store here in Edmonton at the City Centre shopping. Asked the guy if he had any (Thursday around 6:45pm). He said yes - 9 of them. So I am now an owner like the rest of you LOL

this thread may actually keep going until the launch of the iphone 5!

LOL!
I think most of us already have our iP4 and are just hanging around this post for "nostalgia".
Can we have a show of hands on how many are still looking for an iP4?

Alrighty - I spoke too soon... I knew I should have waited for the next version of the iPhone LOL.

My camera takes a picture - then freezes and I have to reboot. I reset everything - and it still does it. Sooo - I google iPhone 4 camera freeze - and behold - it's a big problem with many phones.

My other issue is that my photo's take up more than double the space than I had on my iPhone 3. I had a 16gb IP3 and never went over 45% usage. My IP4 is waaay up to over 90% usage.

I'm sending it back. May as well wait for the next release that has fixes.

well, 2 things, 1 you might choose to wait for a software update...

2, more megapixels and the new camera features store multiple shots

well, 2 things, 1 you might choose to wait for a software update...

2, more megapixels and the new camera features store multiple shots

From what I read on several forums the camera freezing issue is not a software issue. Apparently Apple is replacing phones with this issue. I'll be speaking to them tomorrow and will update.

I had no idea that all of my current photo's on my iPhone 3 when moved to iPhone 4 would double or almost triple in size If I knew I would get a 32 gb instead of a 16 gb. Of course I can remove a bunch of photo's but then I would have to carry around an iPad or MacBook hahahaha. I show a lot of photo's to people on my iPhone.

I just figure why keep a phone that is faulty. So back it goes. I'll wait for the next release :)

Just an update. Spoke with Apple and yes - this is a common problem with the camera freezing. They said I can send my phone in and it will be replaced. I decided not to do this since I see several other people on forums indicating the same problem. I will wait for the next version of the iPhone. I'm sending this one back to Rogers.

Just keeping you all in the loop. :)

When you say next version do you mean ip5 next summer?

and what phone were you upgrading from?

When you say next version do you mean ip5 next summer?

and what phone were you upgrading from?


Yes - the iPhone 5 - or whatever it shall be called - and I don't mind waiting until next summer to ensure most of these things are worked out.

I currently have a 3G.

I really liked the 4 - but not enough to keep it with all those issues. :)

Camera locks up?

I finally caved in an replaced my old Samsung flip on Saturday.

Went to the Bell store near by and they offered me a hardware upgrade on my current contract for $159.99 so I jumped considering my contract doesn't come up for renewal for another 2 years....

Also found that the current personal packages are better than the corporate plan I was on and was also able to downgrade my wife's plan which is also on my corporate plan to a better one for $20. So overall I'm now paying less per month and getting better features other than no call display and texting which I've never used!

Only thing I'm wondering about is whether I should have taken the offer for 6 GB data per month for $5 extra though I was confused as the girl first said $5 and then $10.

I'm wondering if the camera lock up has something to do with the HDR setting where the camera merges 3 shots into one to increase the dynamic range as I find my camera things about it for a second or two after taking the shot.

So far no lock ups on mine though I have only shot about 50-60 pix and a few videos.

It is a rather nice design though I'm also wondering if it is worth putting some of that plastic film to protect the screen, for now I've just left the stuff Apple ships the thing with until I get my Otter case knock offs out of Hong Kong.

Camera locks up?

I finally caved in an replaced my old Samsung flip on Saturday.

Went to the Bell store near by and they offered me a hardware upgrade on my current contract for $159.99 so I jumped considering my contract doesn't come up for renewal for another 2 years....

Also found that the current personal packages are better than the corporate plan I was on and was also able to downgrade my wife's plan which is also on my corporate plan to a better one for $20. So overall I'm now paying less per month and getting better features other than no call display and texting which I've never used!

Only thing I'm wondering about is whether I should have taken the offer for 6 GB data per month for $5 extra though I was confused as the girl first said $5 and then $10.

I'm wondering if the camera lock up has something to do with the HDR setting where the camera merges 3 shots into one to increase the dynamic range as I find my camera things about it for a second or two after taking the shot.

So far no lock ups on mine though I have only shot about 50-60 pix and a few videos.

It is a rather nice design though I'm also wondering if it is worth putting some of that plastic film to protect the screen, for now I've just left the stuff Apple ships the thing with until I get my Otter case knock offs out of Hong Kong.

Ya - the camera lockup was wierd. I took a few pics when I first got it - no worries. Then suddenly the shutter locked closes. then it worked - it was intermittent. I found I could really get it to lock when I slide the button from camera to video and back. Anyway I did a search to see if this was an issue and wow - lots of problems with it. When I rang Apple she had me do several tests. But she said this is a known problem and that I can send it in for a replacement phone. I said no because I realized that buy a 16gb phone was too small of a memory size. So that's the scoop on the camera issue. If you google iPhone 4 camera issue you will see lots of comments on it.

westonc, you're perfectly welcome to return your phone and wait for iPhone 5, but I don't think the camera issue is that widespread, (people will often complain of problems on multiple blogs, and those who are happy never post at all).

I've had my iPhone 4 since the day after launch and never had a problem with the camera (the camera on my 3GS was much slower).

I also think that Apple is handling it well, offering to send you a new replacement phone. So if you're unsatisfied with all that - that's fine, but I surmise that many people would be happy to just get a working replacement and move forward.

This thread is getting a little off topic... It's been over 10 weeks since iPhone 4 was released in Canada. This is very strange and I find it especially odd that few are questioning why this has happened. Has the demand really been unprecedented? (I don't think any previous introduction has been anything remotely like this - I got a 3G on day 1 without lining up). Or did Apple slow down production when they found out about the antenna problem so they could limit their exposure while implementing a fix?

Looking for a Fido iPhone 4 in Toronto.

I don't know, but certainly criticizing apple raises the ire of some.

I don't ever recall this sort of thing with 3G, or 3GS.

(sorry about the 2 commas. They weren't intentionally harmed during this post.)

westonc, you're perfectly welcome to return your phone and wait for iPhone 5, but I don't think the camera issue is that widespread, (people will often complain of problems on multiple blogs, and those who are happy never post at all).

I've had my iPhone 4 since the day after launch and never had a problem with the camera (the camera on my 3GS was much slower).

I also think that Apple is handling it well, offering to send you a new replacement phone. So if you're unsatisfied with all that - that's fine, but I surmise that many people would be happy to just get a working replacement and move forward.

I agree with you! I think the phone is great - fast, clear and sexy. But unfortunately my camera kept freezing. It just stopped - I had to reboot the phone to get it back - or sometimes it came back after 3-4 minutes. The lady I spoke with at Apple informed me that there is a mechanical problem with some of the lenses and that is why they are being swapped out. My issue was twofold. I did not know that the camera required double to triple the space for photos. If I had known this I would have not gotten a 16gb which is the same as my current phone. Rogers only had 16gb phones in stock. If I would have been able to swap for a 32gb with a fixed camera I would have kept it.

Now to keep this on track (since I think we've been chastised), I walked by my local Rogers store today and there was no 'Out Of Stock' sign - this was the first time in months. Of course I did not go in. When I was returning my phone I heard one of the salesmen indicating to another customer that stock is up and they are receiving regular supplies now.

This thread is getting a little off topic... It's been over 10 weeks since iPhone 4 was released in Canada. This is very strange and I find it especially odd that few are questioning why this has happened. Has the demand really been unprecedented? (I don't think any previous introduction has been anything remotely like this - I got a 3G on day 1 without lining up). Or did Apple slow down production when they found out about the antenna problem so they could limit their exposure while implementing a fix?

Looking for a Fido iPhone 4 in Toronto.

I think the demand has been a factor of two major things:

1) Apple not producing enough in the initial batches (hence the initial roll-out, etc...) they also probably reduced production in case demand slipped due to the Antenna-Gate stuff, like you said -- this is just my theory.

2) In Canada specifically - we are home to Factory Unlocked Phones - the kind people from other countries (including the US) line up for hours to buy as many as possible to ship back home or sell for huge markups in other countries that don't have them or have them tied to stiff contract penalties. Couple that with our very diverse population base and Apple supplying it's own stores (where people get the unlocked ones from) with most of the already limited supply and you have a perfect storm for iPhone supply not meeting demand.

I feel like these is hope on the horizon though -- the US has recently dropped their availablity from 3 weeks online to 5-7 business days. Even the UK (also home to unlocked phones) now lists online shipping of phones as 2 weeks instead of three -- both of these reports come from Apple.

Specifically for Fido, have you tried calling in and speaking to retentions? Many Rogers customers have been successful with that approach, and considering Fido *is* Rogers - might work for you too!

Ok thanks re the camera, as a photographer this could get interesting though so far it's actually a pretty good camera for what it is and it makes my life easier in terms of always having a happy snap camera/camcorder at hand. I might be able to retire my little Canon SD1000 which is twice the thickness of my iPhone.

When I was picking up my phone the folks at the store figured the shipment they got late friday would last them till tuesday because of the holiday. The only other customers were buying crackberries so not sure just how many they expected to actually sell.

I've already loaded up a lot of stuff, mainly needed apps and a ton of free games plus music and Ironman 2... have just over 10GB left but an other movie or two will kill that pretty fast as well as my own video and stills. In hindsight 32 GB might have been better but I thought it was quite a bit more $$ though some character on Kijiji is selling iPhone 4 32 GB for $20 more than the 16 Gb and offering buy 2 get 1 free. Why does my scam-o-meter go off on this one....

FedEx just dropped off my 32GB iP4 today from Apple almost a week early, yay! I hope I don't have any of those camera problems...

FedEx just dropped off my 32GB iP4 today from Apple almost a week early, yay! I hope I don't have any of those camera problems...

Congrats on the purchase, if your experience is like mine, you will love it. I have had no problems at all.

Great news on your iPhone 4. I've had no trouble of any kind with my iPhone, hopefully yours will be trouble free as well.

Glad to hear you got your iP4 so fast!
Enjoy :)

Supply must be getting better. I had a call today from the Rogers Plus that I left my name at for an iPhone 4. I actually got mine at a Cellcom kiosk, so I told them that I already had one.

If they are calling people back, it must mean that they have sufficient supply lined up.

Kostas

Thanks peeps, so far so good, I took a picture yesterday and no freezing yet. I hope everyone who wants one gets one soon :)

Been using the camera a lot including HD video and so far so good....

Had an issue with a call yesterday where the person I was talking to said I suddenly dropped off, I wondered when they got quiet so wiggled the phone and I was heard again... odd.

Didn't have speaker phone on, think I'll try my headset and see if that helps.

Been using the camera a lot including HD video and so far so good....

Had an issue with a call yesterday where the person I was talking to said I suddenly dropped off, I wondered when they got quiet so wiggled the phone and I was heard again... odd.

Didn't have speaker phone on, think I'll try my headset and see if that helps.

I think that may be one of the known problems with the proximity sensor (just guessing). Apparently it sometimes does not know the phone is near your face so it enables the keypad so your cheek may have pressed a mute button or something like that.

From what I read, iOS4.1 has fixed the problem. If you have 4.1 and this situation persists, then it could possibly be a hardware problem.

I've been having this problem with my phone. It's annoying as hell.

Hmm have 4.1 loaded, must have been the proximity sensor. Fixed itself when I moved the phone but something I guess I need to keep an eye on.

Hmm have 4.1 loaded, must have been the proximity sensor. Fixed itself when I moved the phone but something I guess I need to keep an eye on.

Even that is pretty limited, I have had mine since launch (iPhone 4) and neither antenna nor proximity issues. I wonder if they go hand in hand? Anyone here with either problems? Both problems?

Ive had the proximity issue but only since upgrading to 4.1 no problems before that.

Ive had the proximity issue but only since upgrading to 4.1 no problems before that.

Double strange! 4.1 was a fix for those with the problem in the first place!

Anyone here with either problems? Both problems?


No problem here.

Anyone know of Toronto shop that has the 32 GB iPhone for a Rogers upgrade? I had no luck calling around today. Thanks!

Anyone know of Toronto shop that has the 32 GB iPhone for a Rogers upgrade? I had no luck calling around today. Thanks!
Apple store in Sherway Gardens gets shipments every day - I bought my iPhone4 32gb outright yesterday in the morning (no lineups). If you're buying a subsidized phone like Rogers you will need to schedule an appointment to activate it in store - just walk in first thing in the morning starting at 8am when the store 'opens'.
IMHO the craze for iPhone4 has died off since whoever wanted to buy a new iPhone has done so.

Well it seems that they are still waiting lists for Rogers iP4 32gbs in Ottawa. I have colleague who's still waiting for his, order through Corp account more than a month ago.

Well it seems that they are still waiting lists for Rogers iP4 32gbs in Ottawa. I have colleague who's still waiting for his, order through Corp account more than a month ago.

Wow, really? From what I've observed, stock seems to be steadily improving.

Apple US lists shipping in 1-3 business days (down from 5-7 days). Apple UK is now 1 week (from 5-7 business days)... can Apple Canada be far behind?

I also saw people just walking out with iPhone 4's -- not lineup outside at Apple Store Eaton Centre on Saturday. So I'm assuming they have stock w/o people having to wait for hours each AM anymore.

It’s nice to be optimistic, hopefully that happens, as you said. Because, from where I see… there are still queues out there. Though shorter, but still there…

I picked up a 16gb from Apple Store Square 1 yesterday no problems.

As well we ordered a 16gb from Rogers Customer Relations, they had them in stock. Apparently the Fido Customers Relations pulls from the same stock as well, so that would mean they also had them.

I also walked into Eaton Centre yesterday. Out 15mi later with phone.

Got me for Ipad also. Stayed away from Mac Air display

I think we can officialy close this topic:

iPhone 4 Handsets Now Shipping Within 24 Hours In U.S.

http://appadvice.com/appnn/2010/11/iphone-4-handsets-shipping-24-hours/

I think we can officialy close this topic:

iPhone 4 Handsets Now Shipping Within 24 Hours In U.S.

iPhone 4 Handsets Now Shipping Within 24 Hours In U.S. :: App Advice (http://appadvice.com/appnn/2010/11/iphone-4-handsets-shipping-24-hours/)

As well as walk-in and pick up stock in Apple and AT&T stores.

I think we can officialy close this topic:

iPhone 4 Handsets Now Shipping Within 24 Hours In U.S.

iPhone 4 Handsets Now Shipping Within 24 Hours In U.S. :: App Advice (http://appadvice.com/appnn/2010/11/iphone-4-handsets-shipping-24-hours/)


Not that I am looking for an iP4 anymore but I was in 2 malls in Edmonton today and decided to look in the Rogers stores just to see if they had iP4 stock... both stores had signs up saying iPhone 4 Temporarily Out of Stock.

Not that I am looking for an iP4 anymore but I was in 2 malls in Edmonton today and decided to look in the Rogers stores just to see if they had iP4 stock... both stores had signs up saying iPhone 4 Temporarily Out of Stock.

Should have hit up the Apple Store. They seem to have them in spades these days.

Should have hit up the Apple Store. They seem to have them in spades these days.

No no - I was just looking out of curiosity to see if they were out of stock and they were. I already purchased an iPhone4 and already returned it due to problems... I'm waiting for the next version to be released.

Apple.ca now lists iPhone 4's as "leaves Apple: 1 Week" from the Online Store. Horray! Things are getting better and better on the supply front, it seems.

Still 32gb Rogers iPhones are hard to find in Ottawa. A friend wasted the whole week end and nothing.

Still 32gb Rogers iPhones are hard to find in Ottawa. A friend wasted the whole week end and nothing.

Even at the Apple Stores? Seems weird to me that the GTA stores (Eaton Centre and Square One) are reported to have stock, but Apple Store Ottawa wouldn't?

Has he tried ordering through Rogers retentions, where so many in this thread have had luck?

Toronto (Eaton Centre) had lots of stock last Thursday. I bought an unlocked 32 gig, and they gave me a Rogers SIM. Only took about 10 minutes and I activated it at home, switched my SIM online with Rogers.

They told me that if you want to do an upgrade in store, you need to make an appointment....no line ups.

I don't think he tried the Apple store. He leaves about 1h drive from it.
Anyway, it seems Rogers stores don't have many.

Rogers is out as of now despite retentions telling me they had instock and then getting a backorder email from them

Don't bother with Rogers. Best place to get a Rogers iPhone 4 is an Apple store.
Also most of the original Rogers deals are expired so you may have to pay full price!