Thanks for the update from Rogers.
I'm hoping my store got at least one 32GB.

Don't get your hopes up too high, I called 2 stores in Kanata here and neither of them have any phones. The Apple store downtown also didn't receive any new stock either.

Just got back from a Rogers store in Woodbridge. They sold 8 this morning. I was an hour late. Shucks!

Rogers and Telephone Booth at Rideau got a shipment and were sold out immediately.

Telephone Booth only got 3 and the clerk kept one for himself.

I've suspected the same as this analyst -- if they don't need to give you a free bumper after Sept 30th then there won't be a problem with the product after Sept 30th.

Or there might still be a problem, but Apple may be redesigning the package to include a bumper already in the box for Sept. 30th?

anyone heard any news about Square One?
I've been thinking about going tomorrow but dont really wanna waste my time.

Rogers and Telephone Booth at Rideau got a shipment and were sold out immediately.

Telephone Booth only got 3 and the clerk kept one for himself.

Well, that eliminates my need to stop at Rideau Centre on the way home from work.

And the worst part? Now I know there's zero chance of the stores getting any new stock tomorrow when I *don't* have to work.

Got my 32gb last night but it took 6hrs!!!!! Holy Smokes, it was the most painful experience that continued today with 2 calls to Rogers.

Not worth it!

Saw a bunch of people Lined up at Eaton Centre again today... both a guaranteed Line and a "Probably No Chance" line.

Just got back from a Rogers store in Woodbridge. They sold 8 this morning. I was an hour late. Shucks!

Which store in woodbridge?

With the combo - antenna gotta hold it in a special way, and the proximity - mute your phone while on a call, and now the recent bluetooth - hello? hello? I can't hear you... things happening with the ip4, I stopped shopping around. I live on bluetooth and i spoke to a friend who has an ip4 and he was on his bluetooth about a week ago.... I kept telling him I could hardly hear him and was he somewhere noisy. I thought it was just him until I read the recent bluetooth woes from people with ip4. Apparently the people they are talking to say they have a hard time hearing them and they are sounding distant or hollow.

I think I'll wait until one drops into my lap. Don't want to run head long into trouble.

I got a 16GB today at Marlborough, at the Cellcom Wireless kiosk. No lineups, but I did have to wait around for about 45 minutes until the 2 previous customers ahead me were served (buying some sort of Blackberry, second customer got two iPhone 4s). Process was pretty quick, I'd say about 20 minutes overall.

When I got there (I was at the mall to have a pair of shoes repaired), I just asked if they had iPhones, and they said yes. I sort of paused, and I asked if that was for real, and they said they had 24 come in that morning, and they had 4-5 left (2:30 in the afternoon). While waiting around, I talked to the guy who bought the 2 iPhones ahead of me, and showed him how to use the iPhone (I used to have an iPhone 3G), so its pretty much the same with the exception of folders and the multi-tasking/application switching.

I can replicate the antenna issue at home, it drops to 3 or 4 bars from 5 if I use the death grip (no case). I did make a call on the phone, didn't have any proximity sensor issues, and I haven't used bluetooth for anything yet.


Kostas

Canada Post delivered mine today! I'm delighted to have it.

Bah. Brentwood Town Centre Rogers got another shipment of iPhones today and didn't call me (again). Already sold out.

Several Rogers locations in ottawa received iPhones. None for me though as I was stuck at work all day.

Maybe I should just quit my job like everyone else and camp out daily.

Maybe I should just quit my job like everyone else and camp out daily.

Exactly what I was thinking but luckily I'm on afternoons next week and I will like everyone else camp out in the morning at my local apple store.

Next week begins my search for an iPhone 4. Returning mine this weekend.

I was at the Rogers Plus store in Brampton this evening (Bovaird & Hwy 10) and overheard someone there saying they'd received six of them today. The fellow infront of me in line got the last one.

I was just there to buy a micro-sim card -- got my apple.ca iPhone 4 delivered via Fedex today! :)

I talked to the Rogers Corp store that we deal with and as a corporate customer I'm screwed!
They sell any iP4 they get in store and are not holding any for Corp orders right now.
Also other Rogers stores can't process my demand. I've tried.
As the account belongs to the company, I can't leave Rogers.
So I have no choice but to wait.
I may try to call Rogers Business line but I doubt they can do anything.

I'm going to be calling Bell/Telus today to see what kind of deals I can get for switching over. Hopefully offer some credits on first bill to offset the cost of the termination fee with rogers.

I know the supply shortages aren't rogers fault. The way they are handling these shortages though is what frustrates me.

mjollymo,

Please post your results.

I tried this several times with Telus and got nothing worth while.
An offer of free caller ID for a year was the best perk! What a joke.

I also have another line with Telus and get $20 worth of free perks on that line. They WOULD NOT extend the same to a new second line.

... Rob

Hitting Fairview Mall tomorrow morning, they say that they let mall walkers in at 8:00 so I'm going there for 8 and waiting in front of the apple store until they get a shipment. Anyone have any tips for waiting outside the stores or any other tips for keeping myself from getting too bored?

Hitting Fairview Mall tomorrow morning, they say that they let mall walkers in at 8:00 so I'm going there for 8 and waiting in front of the apple store until they get a shipment. Anyone have any tips for waiting outside the stores or any other tips for keeping myself from getting too bored?

General Tip: They will often say they aren't getting any and then within minutes (or hours) get some in and start a lineup. If you _really_ want one... be persistent. :D

The shipments in TO seem to arrive around noon-2pmish most days.

Total BS today, got there at 8:30 and they had the store open but no line up. An apple store employee was there telling everyone that they were told that they are getting a shipment tomorrow and they are opening up at 9 am. Now going there for when the mall opens at 8 would be a good idea but now that people KNOW there's a shipment coming the line is going to be crazy. The apple store employee was saying that people find a way to get into the mall before it opens to the public and he was there today to discourage line ups. If I find out they got a shipment today I'm done with it. I'm just about at the end of my patience with the hold iPhone 4. Total BS:mad:

I got really lucky. I've had my 32gb iPhone 4 (Rogers) for about 2 weeks now. Wirelesswave agreed to put a phone on HOLD for me as soon as they got a shipment. This was the first batch of shipments after the initial launch stock. About 1 week after launch they gave me a call and said they had my phone for me put aside for me. I went and picked it up, no lines, no extra fees, I didn't prepay either.

I don't know why I got special treatment. But I wish the best of luck to you guys in getting your phones!

I got my phone last week from Nexgen Wireless at Front and King. They are a telus store and they also put my name on a list and called me when it showed up. I believe they still have stock as I sent a co-worker there on Friday and he walked right in and picked one up. Another co-worker walked into a bell store and picked one up straight away as well. It seems that if you are with telus or bell it is no problem.... if your with rogers.....

Passed by Apple Store Rideau @ 11:30, and there was probably 35 people in line.

Passed by Apple Store Rideau @ 11:30, and there was probably 35 people in line.

Was there at 1:00 PM, no shipment today yet.

EDIT: There was also no line outside the Apple store.

There is a twit saying Rideau got iPhones,16 & 32, last night around 7pm!

Another twit says Rideau still has iP4s: 16 & 32!

I am taking tomorrow off. Hopefully it pays off.

Another twit says Rideau still has iP4s: 16 & 32!

Where are you hearing this from? At rideau now, about 6-7 people in line and a worker came out and said they don't have any yet. Don't know what that means, but I hope they get some in.

On twitter.

Here's page print

Here's page print

Ok thanks, how credible is this guy?

Hard to say. Iphoneincanada was just retweeting some person. I haven't found anyone else able to verify that tweet from last night. So who knows.

Any updates from Rideau or Rogers stores?

Is it wrong that I'm hoping they don't get a shipment today? Means I still have of a shipment coming tomorrow when I'm off!

Any updates from Rideau or Rogers stores?

Rideau got a shipment in. Was second in line and I got an iPhone 4. There were probably 40 people in line and the worker said that everyone in line would get a phone.

Nice, I hope Rogers will get some also.

Now I'm worried they won't get stock tomorrow, and I will have taken a day off for nothing.

Oh well.

Was at fairview today and the line up at 7:30 had over 100 people in it. I was near the end, an employee came out at 8 and said that she would be taking names and when she stopped that meant there was no more phones. She barely made it around the first turn of people before she said no more phones. I phoned rogers and they said to just phone the stores and that they have none at the call centers.

Cancelled my iphone4 order today (4 weeks of running around and struggling to give apple my cash is too much of turn off at this point) so I got a samsung galaxy s. Hopefully that means one of you guys gets a phone earlier :)

Best of luck

How do you like the Galaxy S?
Rogers may get it also soon and I thought it's a nice phone.

Cancelled my iphone4 order today (4 weeks of running around and struggling to give apple my cash is too much of turn off at this point) so I got a samsung galaxy s. Hopefully that means one of you guys gets a phone earlier :)

Best of luck

I understand impatience with regards to getting a phone, but it seems so odd to me to give up the search and buy a competing handset.

I know myself I feel I'm locked in as an iPhone user. Sure I could make the jump to the other side of the fence, but I've bought apps and am invested in the iPhone platform. It also just works with my hardware. This is of course by Apple's design, but it really is no different then investing in PC software, then being wary of making the leap to Mac or Linux because you might lose functionality you previously enjoyed.

Obviously your circumstance could be different then mine. I've just always found it odd people jumping platforms like that, especially when you did in fact have your heart set on an iPhone and aren't making the jump out of frustration with the competing platform.

How do you like the Galaxy S?
Rogers may get it also soon and I thought it's a nice phone.

The iphone 4, with its aluminum casing looks so much better than the Vibrant. However, I keep my phones in cases, so really 95% of the time I won’t see the body of the phone. So that brings me to the screens. Both phones have amazing screens. I couldn’t tell the difference between the two when using them at the normal distance you use smart phone. If you put the iphone a few inches from your face, the iphone 4 looks little better due to pixel density, but at normal differences I personally can’t tell the difference. Both look amazing.

In terms of software, the overall look of iOS is nicer, but in terms of functionality it seems to be dated. The droid’s ability to set up a “daily briefing” on your home screen with info like your calendar, weather, news etc, plus notifications and widgets really puts droid ahead of Ios. It seems so much more flexiable and usefull as a tool.

Still, I was hung up on the fact that iOS just looked so much better on the eyes. However I did some researching and was blown away at the customization ability of droid phones (especially once you root them). You have the ability to make the operating system look and operate exactly the way you want. So really, that was the tipping point. A year from now, I think I’ll really enjoy the ability to tinker with the phone.

The larger screen also appealed to me.

I understand impatience with regards to getting a phone, but it seems so odd to me to give up the search and buy a competing handset.

I know myself I feel I'm locked in as an iPhone user. Sure I could make the jump to the other side of the fence, but I've bought apps and am invested in the iPhone platform. It also just works with my hardware. This is of course by Apple's design, but it really is no different then investing in PC software, then being wary of making the leap to Mac or Linux because you might lose functionality you previously enjoyed.

Obviously your circumstance could be different then mine. I've just always found it odd people jumping platforms like that, especially when you did in fact have your heart set on an iPhone and aren't making the jump out of frustration with the competing platform.

I haven’t owned an iphone before so I had no stock invested in the Apple universe. I also consider these things to be tools (I need it for calendar and especially for tethering). I was very impressed with the new iphone4 and really hadn’t considered the alternatives. Had Apple shipped more to Canada, I would have probably out of impulse just went a head and bought one.

However, while waiting I looked around and started to notice that the iphone 4, as amazing as it is, isn’t exactly the leader in all areas. I can’t argue with the form factor (it has the competition floored). However, I think iOS is dated and not moving fast enough and I think droid will be more useful for me.

So, it wasn’t really out of spite (although it is annoying that you can’t buy one, annoyed at the way they handled the antenna issue and in general kinda put off by the arrogance of the company).

Sounds like Rideau got a fairly large shipment in today. 16GB are sold out, and with the number of people waiting in line, it's safe to assume 32GB is sold as well.

This gives me a bad feeling for tomorrow. I should have booked today off!

Cambridge Centre Telus got a shipment today. Lots of 16 & 32s. Just picked up a 16.

This gives me a bad feeling for tomorrow. I should have booked today off!

You never know. There maybe leftovers from today or another big shipment. Best of luck.

Yup my buddy and I both got 32's at rideau today... On a related note anyone looking to buy a slightly used 16gb iPhone 4 locked to fido.

How do you like the Galaxy S?
Rogers may get it also soon and I thought it's a nice phone.

Had it for a week, gave it a good run-through. It's good, very good. Mine had 2.1 on it and I wish I could try some of what 2.2 gives and that's my main beef with Android...you're at the mercy of over-the-air updates and whatever skin the manufacturer puts on it. I hate Motoblur, Sense is not bad, there's some other custom ones that are decent too but I find it a bit busy and cluttered.

I also found the Android apps more hit and miss than the app store in terms of quality, interface and other things... Battery wasn't as good for me as iPhone 4 but I did like that I could really tweak the Android OS. And again, maybe it's me but the Android OS just doesn't feel as snappy or intuitive though it's 9/10ths of the way there.

I theorize that it could likely be that one would prefer whichever OS they used first between Android and iPhone but if you were to use the other you'd see things you want and things you hate...for me I don't want too much more than intermediate use without going advanced on a phone so iPhone is fine for me.

Hardware-wise the Galaxy is better than a 3GS but the screen on an iPhone 4 is just the best in the market right now. Camera was better on Galaxy but on the video I had the odd frame drop here and there. If you're into cases and accessories you're obviously more limited in choice on the Galaxy but the Galaxy feels pretty damn durable too.

Hope that helps anyone considering. I tried a Blackberry Torch as well and I wasn't impressed if anyone's tempted to go there...felt like a juiced-up Palm Pre but the Blackberry OS felt unfinished somehow.

Was at fairview today and the line up at 7:30 had over 100 people in it. I was near the end, an employee came out at 8 and said that she would be taking names and when she stopped that meant there was no more phones. She barely made it around the first turn of people before she said no more phones. I phoned rogers and they said to just phone the stores and that they have none at the call centers.

That's what I hate about Rogers right now. They expect customers to spend hours and hours hunting for a phone. Why not have a waiting list? They have manufactured a problem. Wonder how many customers have been lost?

My search is finally over!

Was waiting in line at the Rideau this morning. They did end up receiving a small shipment today, and I was lucky enough to get one!

I haven't been able to use it yet though, as there is apparently an issue with the rogers system (surprise), so I've been waiting about an hour for it to get activated.

Well I'm glad someone got their iphone today, I waited in line at Fairview mall today for 5 hrs only to be told that they couldn't release anymore phones because the rogers/fido upgrade website/phone system was down. So the story is that they had no more 16Gb phones but a lot of 32Gb, but they can only process a certain amount in front of us so they stopped selling them BUT tomorrow they will start selling the rest. Damn rogers screw up considering I could of had an iPhone today if it weren't for that. BTW Apple employees and manager were the best with the customer service and the manager kept us updated every hour. Rogers you suck! On top of it all I received my new case for my iPhone today. lol

I know myself I feel I'm locked in as an iPhone user. Sure I could make the jump to the other side of the fence, but I've bought apps and am invested in the iPhone platform. It also just works with my hardware. This is of course by Apple's design, but it really is no different then investing in PC software, then being wary of making the leap to Mac or Linux because you might lose functionality you previously enjoyed.


I feel the same.. I've spent hundreds on apps The GPS apps being the big ones (Navigon, Tom Tom and Sygic)

and $1-5 here and there adds up on dozens or lesser apps.

To move to a new platform would cost me the price of the phone + the cost of replacing all the apps.

Although I'm very happy being on the iPhone.

Pushing 3hrs now, and still no service. Come on Rogers get your act together!

I finally got my 16gb this morning at a Rogers Plus store in Woodbridge. No lineups. Picked up the last one out of five.
I feel like I won the lottery!

What bothers me is that I've have 2 chances to get an iPhone now (a 32gb and a 16gb), and both stores had no idea about the Fido early iPhone upgrade system so I get screwed over both times.

I just got an Android phone as well, for testing purposes (have a 32GB iPhone 4). The main PITA with Android, that reminds me of the Windows Mobile days, is the fact it is all back to the carrier now. This means if the carrier decides you deserve the updated OS, they will release it to that phone, what in this day and age is completely unacceptable.

I can understand my first generation iPhone, bought at launch, not being able to run the latest iOS 4 due to hardware limitations (no one expects a 5 year old PC to be able to run Windows 7) but the Android phone I got, the guy that sold it to me bought it brand new end of last year so the phone is like 8 months old and runs Android 1.5. Rogers still did NOT release any updates and are now promising Android 2.1 for it (HTC Magic) sometime this year even though 2.2 Froyo is already out for some carriers.

Sure you can Google for HTC Magic + Froyo and you will find CyanogenMod and a list of procedures you can carry on the phone to upgrade it to 2.2. Problem is, I can do it, not the average Joe user. Having to load JDK and Android SDK to update the freaking phone? WTF? All that thanks to the carrier, Rogers, that does not release an update. Complete BS if you ask me.

The beauty of the iPhone is the simple fact it was the first device, and still the only one to date, that removed the carrier from this process, giving it back to the developer that created the OS, the right to decide when the update comes out and once it is out, as long as your hardware can take it, all phones, no matter on which carrier you are, can be updated to that OS.

This in itself is the biggest show stopper, IMHO, with any Android phone as of today. I will never let a carrier decide when I get an update ever again. Had so many bad stories like that with my Windows Mobile devices, where I got the phone and a week later (no kidding) a new update came out that turned certain apps (Messenger at the time) useless unless you had the updated version. Surely, the carrier/vendor NEVER released an updated version and I was stuck with a ONE WEEK old phone that could not be officially updated.

As a device and a platform, the HTC Magic/Android do seem fine but IMHO cannot beat the iOS 4 ecosystem at this stage. Too many apps available (and sure, tons are crap but thousands are simply incredible) and the simple fact I can give the finger to Rogers/Bell/Fido/Telus regarding updates is the icing on the cake.

Unfortunately Android lacks that.

CR

Thanks for the heads up on android updates.

Pushing 3hrs now, and still no service. Come on Rogers get your act together!

Did it get fixed?

Did it get fixed?

It finally did! Shortly after posting that, I got tired of waiting and connected it to my itunes. It re-activated the phone again and I was up and running.

I have to say it was well worth the wait. It's great having a device that works as advertised. My old 3G was was pushing the limits of my patience.

I will now turn that into a universal remote with the red eye mini infrared adapter.

Damn. Telus iPhone was activated before I left the store!

Yeah, Rogers should really be embarrassed with every facet of the iPhone 4 launch. I hope they learn some lessons, and next year are better prepared.

I also just looked at Telus and Bell's websites and you can order the iPhone 4 16GB or 32GB online, still nothing for Rogers and Fido. Shame on you Rogers!

Yeah, Rogers should really be embarrassed with every facet of the iPhone 4 launch. I hope they learn some lessons, and next year are better prepared.

Not gonna happen. Rogers/Fido has botched the iPhone launch year after year after year. 3 years running now. You honestly think it'll be different next June/July? I certainly don't.

Not gonna happen. Rogers/Fido has botched the iPhone launch year after year after year. 3 years running now. You honestly think it'll be different next June/July? I certainly don't.

Of course not. My comment was wishful thinking.

Anyone have any suggestions for Bell outlets with phones in the GTA (west end preferred)?

most comments here are for Rogers / Fido.;)

I actually think that this is the only release they botched, at least you could order the phone from them before. I really don't enjoy having to phone every store in the GTA and stand in line at Apple stores to purchase a product that my carrier can't get enough of when other carriers have more than enough stock.

I didn't have any problem with Rogers last summer, getting my 3Gs was pretty straightforward.

Glad though I wasn't counting on them this time around though!

I actually think that this is the only release they botched, .

check out RedBoard Samsung Galaxy S topic. They promised it when Bell got them, but a month later, they can't even give a release date.

I actually think that this is the only release they botched, at least you could order the phone from them before. I really don't enjoy having to phone every store in the GTA and stand in line at Apple stores to purchase a product that my carrier can't get enough of when other carriers have more than enough stock.

Well, the other carriers (Bell at least) have more than enough stock because no one wants to buy it on their network. Before someone jumps down my throat for saying this, I work at a multi carrier dealership. If we get Rogers/Fido iPhones, they're gone in under an hour easy. We can't get rid of Bell iPhones.

When I stopped by BestBuy today, they had tons of iPhone4s and maybe 2 people lined up to get em. Telus only. FUUUUUUU

Well, I'm 6th on the waiting list at the rogers store so should be good to go in a couple of weeks.

Redboard
UPDATE (August 25, 2010, 4:15 PM) A limited number of iPhone 4s have again started to arrive at Rogers retail locations. Considering the limited inventory, we recommend you contact your local store to confirm units are available. In addition, Apple retail locations may have stock.

Another cluster **** with Rogers customers at Fairview Mall. Whole system down. I swear Rogers is doing this on purpose to sabotage the whole thing. This is 2 days in a row.

Are Apple stores still getting lots of shipments or do they only come once every couple days? My Dad is considering lining up at Pacific Centre tomorrow morning to get one. Would the chances of getting an iPhone be pretty good?

I'm gearing up to possibly visit the Winnipeg Apple Store tomorrow morning. I'm curious if anyone is in the know on iPhone 4 availability there. Thanks!

I'm gearing up to possibly visit the Winnipeg Apple Store tomorrow morning. I'm curious if anyone is in the know on iPhone 4 availability there. Thanks!

They've been getting new stock in for 9:00AM (opening time) this week and are sold out by the afternoon (or earlier, not sure). I'm not sure what the lines or anything are like though. You can give them call and ask for current stock before hand (usually only a two minute wait at most and they're always kind and helpful).

Let us know how it turns out. I haven't been able to get there early enough because of work since it came out, but I'm hoping to grab one next week.

Are Apple stores still getting lots of shipments or do they only come once every couple days? My Dad is considering lining up at Pacific Centre tomorrow morning to get one. Would the chances of getting an iPhone be pretty good?

Unless he wants to line up SUPER early! People are still lining up everyday (a lot of people line up to buy phones to sell on eBay/craigslist). I lined up at 3:00am last Friday and there were about 50-60 in front of me. They got a big shipment of phones but all 16GB. I wanted a 32GB phone and am not going to "settle" for a 16GB phone so I ended up leaving empty handed.

Well, I called Rogers Customer Relations and complained, on my girlfriends behalf, about those waiting lists that Rogers stores are maintaining and guess what? They agreed, told me I should file a complaint with Apple against that store location and then promptly sent one out to her by UPS!
This is the same thing I did for myself 2 weeks ago...with the same result.
I'm telling you, those waiting lists are not only bullshit, but they're also against policy!

Rogers' Redboard:
UPDATE (August 29, 2010, 7:31 PM) iPhone 4 stock at Rogers stores has sold out. Regular shipments are coming in from Apple, so we’ll update this post again once more stock is available. In the meantime, you may want to check Apple retail stores to see if iPhone 4s are in stock.

Here's hoping I manage to call my local Rogers store right after they get their shipment this week. Or maybe I'll try retentions again... I just want the wait to be over.

Well, the other carriers (Bell at least) have more than enough stock because no one wants to buy it on their network. Before someone jumps down my throat for saying this, I work at a multi carrier dealership. If we get Rogers/Fido iPhones, they're gone in under an hour easy. We can't get rid of Bell iPhones.

I think a big part of the reason that the other carriers have stock is because Rogers/fido had two years of exclusivity almost all early adopters (they only people who are going to line up for a phone) are already locked into 3 year contracts with them so they are our only choice without paying a cancellation fee.. I know that's the only reason I'm still with fido... It certainly isn't the customer service, price plan, or coverage.... It's also the only reason I switched to them in the first place.

Anyone knows about the Virgin stock? I prefer their plan and unlimited txt promotion but I believe this is the less popular option here.

Anyone knows about the Virgin stock? I prefer their plan and unlimited txt promotion but I believe this is the less popular option here.

Bell seems to have better stock of this than Rogers/Fido. Try some "The Source" stores in your area. They're all owned by Bell and might have some Virgin phones in stock.

I was in the Woodbine Centre yesterday and Wireless Wave had Virgin iPhones in stock. I'm with Fido and needed a Fido phone, so today I went first thing in the morning to the Fido in Woodbine since I work around the corner and they receievd a shipment today. I was 6th in line and got one. They are amazing.

NEWS - anyone still waiting for a phone; i recommend you wait longer because Apple is releasing a revised version to fix the antenna issue probably later this month!!!
Good news for the people still waiting and really bad news for those who got one already.

If you don't believe me google "iphone 4 revision"

NEWS - anyone still waiting for a phone; i recommend you wait longer because Apple is releasing a revised version to fix the antenna issue probably later this month!!!
Good news for the people still waiting and really bad news for those who got one already.

If you don't believe me google "iphone 4 revision"

Nothing official confirms that.

P.S. Apple Rideau Centre got stock in this morning

That's a rumour at best. I seriously doubt there'll be a new iPhone 4 design released by the end of September.

Also... here in Canada- what antenna issue? I've heard of almost no-one who's had a problem.

Actually it was announced in San Francisco.
I have friends there who have also seen it on local news.
That's probably why there's such a low supply.
Rumour will be reality soon.

NEWS - anyone still waiting for a phone; i recommend you wait longer because Apple is releasing a revised version to fix the antenna issue probably later this month!!!
Good news for the people still waiting and really bad news for those who got one already.

If you don't believe me google "iphone 4 revision"

I'll say this as nicely as I can: stop spreading misinformation.

Until Apple actually comes out and says they are doing it, officially, anything else are just rumors, speculations and tinfoil hat theories. Please cut it out.

From a business perspective, I severely doubt that they would release a revised version of the iPhone 4 because:

1. They would be admitting that there is actually a serious enough issue that needs to be fixed, which they still haven't.

and

2. They would royally anger the millions of customers that bought their iPhone 4s to date. This would result in either Apple having to provide free exchanges (unlikely) or a class action lawsuit (far more likely).

Why even fix it?
It's selling like hot cakes.
Bumper took care of antenna-gate and iOS 4.1 of the rest (proximity,Bluetooth,etc)

New RedBoard update:
UPDATE (September 1, 2010, 3:11 PM) A limited number of iPhone 4s have again started to arrive at Rogers retail locations. Considering the limited inventory, we recommend you contact your local store to confirm units are available. In addition, Apple retail locations may have stock.

Rogers Plus at Brentwood Town Centre got a shipment of iPhones earlier today. Already sold out, I think they only got 16gigs.

Actually it was announced in San Francisco.
I have friends there who have also seen it on local news.
That's probably why there's such a low supply.
Rumour will be reality soon.

Go away and start your nonsense somewhere else!!!

New RedBoard update:
Thanks for the update.
I've given up on RedBoard but it's nice to get their updates here!

An interesting bit of news filtered into the US tech blogosphere through a report in the Mexican media: according to an executive at one of Mexico's two iPhone/iPad carriers, a new iPhone 4 model may be released as soon as the end of this month to fix the so-called Death Grip issue. Though the report is unconfirmed, and may represent mere speculation rather than true inside information, the news has been making the rounds of blogs like AppleInsider and MacRumors.

Marco Quatorze, director of value added services at Mexico's largest carrier Telcel told the Spanish-language site CanalMX that after September 30, iPhone 4 handsets sold by his company will not suffer from the antenna problem. Telcel customers who buy an iPhone 4 before September 30 will get the current model. As a result, they'll need a protective case or bumper to minimize the problem of dropped calls and poor signal strength, and will be given an option to switch to a revised model, he said.

Why September 30? Quatorze didn't explain why that particular date was given, but that is the day the iPhone 4 case program expires. The temporary nature of the program did suggest to many that Apple would have a fix in place by the time it ended, though Apple's never publicly asserted that, saying only that they'd reassess the program at the end of the period. Requests for comment have gotten no response from Apple as of this writing.

Source: AppleInsider

Local Rogers didn't get more iPhones today but I'm hopeful that they will tomorrow. Cross my fingers that the meeting I have tomorrow will be done by 11:30am so I can line up...

In T.O. and still trying to find one. Seriously frustrated by this point.

NEWS - anyone still waiting for a phone; i recommend you wait longer because Apple is releasing a revised version to fix the antenna issue probably later this month!!!
Good news for the people still waiting and really bad news for those who got one already.

If you don't believe me google "iphone 4 revision"

I didn't believe you so I googled it and got lots of hits - so it must be true!!

I also googled "Creationism is fact" and got lots of hits. So that must be true too!

I'm going to stop googling now. It's spooky.

seriously, what the hell is up. I recall the 3G release, and the 3Gs, and I don't recall there EVER being this much a problem getting a phone this long after release?

Something is up. This whole 'selling like hotcakes' theory doesn't add up. so did the last 3 phones.

This is all total BS, I have been phoning rogers customer service over the last 3 weeks and haven't been offered an iPhone 4 at all, I call them and state my case and my issues with lists being kept and having to stand in line for a phone upgrade. I have stood in line twice and have harassed my local rogers plus stores and have come up empty handed. I am done waiting in lines mostly because I work for a living and can't afford to take days off to give rogers my business.

Yep, Rogers especially messed up this launch. Soon the upgrade price promo will be over with no iPhone to buy!

Does anyone know if the line-ups and still happening at various apple stores in the GTA, I just want to be able to walk into an apple store and upgrade my phone.

Why September 30?

If you keep up with the Tech news sites, a LOT of them have quotes from various telecos and from manufacturers that September 30 is the expected launch of the iPhone 4 with the antenna issue actually fixed.

Tech news sites
They all regurgitate the same rumor until it becomes 'fact' - then trash Apple when 'fact' does not become reality. Seen it happen over and over and over...

:rolleyes:

This is all total BS, I have been phoning rogers customer service over the last 3 weeks and haven't been offered an iPhone 4 at all, I call them and state my case and my issues with lists being kept and having to stand in line for a phone upgrade. I have stood in line twice and have harassed my local rogers plus stores and have come up empty handed. I am done waiting in lines mostly because I work for a living and can't afford to take days off to give rogers my business.

Call retentions, not regular customer service. Mine is on the way and I was able to get $20 off my monthly plan.

They all regurgitate the same rumor until it becomes 'fact' - then trash Apple when 'fact' does not become reality. Seen it happen over and over and over...

:rolleyes:

They get a lot more right than they get wrong.

Frankly as I still can't find an iP4, I don't mind if a new one comes out soon. But I doubt it.

Anyone else losing interest over the iPhone 4 because of availability?
I know I am.

I was so stoked about getting one, but now it's meh...it's never in stock and I'm not going to stress or worry about it. Out of mind and now almost forgotten.

Nevertheless, whether the limited supply is due to a re-vised antennae fix, or simply because of demand, Apple needs to get it's **** together. Sure the long lineups and pent up demand may seem like a great news and PR story, but I'm betting Apple would rather have actual units of iPhone shipped and sold.

Call retentions, not regular customer service. Mine is on the way and I was able to get $20 off my monthly plan.

I'll try calling them, what the hell I've called everyone else over the iphone. I hope they can help me.

Tried calling retentions and they said they have none I also state my case and came up with zero, they also said that they "estimate" a big shipment in 2 weeks from apple. I'll believe it when I see it.:(

Tried calling retentions and they said they have none I also state my case and came up with zero, they also said that they "estimate" a big shipment in 2 weeks from apple. I'll believe it when I see it.:(

Don't buy it. I called a week ago and they told me 2 weeks. So I rang back and talked to someone else in retentions and she said they get them every few days and does not understand why they would tell me to call back in 2 weeks. She said if she did have some on hand she would get it sent to me right away but she didn't. She then told me to call every single day and tell them to look at the notes in my retention file and as soon as they have one I'll get it.

But I actually gave up - I'm in the mindset that come September 30th there will be some sort of change - I know it's all rumours etc. but I am going to bite and hold off until after September 30th - what's another couple weeks hehehe.

But I actually gave up - I'm in the mindset that come September 30th there will be some sort of change - I know it's all rumours etc. but I am going to bite and hold off until after September 30th - what's another couple weeks hehehe.

I'm thinking the same thing. I waited too long and the "magic" is gone. I've seen many iP4s up close and I'm not impressed anymore. Frankly Galaxy S looks better now!
I also don't feel the need to change my 3GS anymore.
I will probably cancel my order and wait until Christmas when many new phones will arrive.

Still no Iphone for me, I dropped by the Apple store at Sherway mall at lunch time and they got 17 phones. only problem the people that got them lined up at 7:00 this morning.

I give up, i figured since school started today i might have a chance.

How do people have time to line up every day, I dont get it?!?!

How do people have time to line up every day, I dont get it?!?!

Neither do I and I keep seeing more and more people around town and transit with them - makes me so frustrated that they are not me :)

I phoned retentions today and all I got was 20% off of my rogers bill, now I'm not complaining but they said they didn't have any iphones. The rogers people are always very nice and very sorry but this is the first time they offered my something after I told them that I was a customer for over 10 years and my bill has been 300.00 for a long time. Well at least I got something this time. I'm trying again tomorrow.

I decided to wait for the next one.
I just hate all this wait.

I decided to wait for the next one.
I just hate all this wait.

You really think lineups for a new iPhone next year won't be any shorter than iPhone 4 lineups this year?

;)

I ordered my iPhone 4 via Apple (Canada) (http://www.apple.ca) and got it after 3 weeks 2 weeks ago.

Finally gave up on Rogers after telling me they have no idea when the next shipment will be in. Walked into a Telus store and walked out with a new service provider and an iPhone4 32GB. How can it be so smooth with Telus and nothing but non-answers with Rogers. Was happy to pay out the last 12 months on my Rogers account.

You really think lineups for a new iPhone next year won't be any shorter than iPhone 4 lineups this year?

Good point

You really think lineups for a new iPhone next year won't be any shorter than iPhone 4 lineups this year?

;)

Yep, I think it will be more like 3GS line ups. I doubt many iP4 owners will upgrade to next one.

I'm thinking the same thing. I waited too long and the "magic" is gone. I've seen many iP4s up close and I'm not impressed anymore. Frankly Galaxy S looks better now!
I ordered a iPhone through Apple but at one point was looking pretty carefully at a Android phone. I think by next year the playing field will be pretty much even. Sometimes the hassle isn't worth it.

Yep, I think it will be more like 3GS line ups. I doubt many iP4 owners will upgrade to next one.

I agree with this. iPhone 5 will be (probably/hopefully? ;) ) a more incremental upgrade like the 3G was to the 2G - so 3GS lineups - still crazy but not still crazy over a month after launch crazy.

Phoned retentions again today and was told that they have no phones and the phones that they have promised through retentions are also on backorder. Great.....
At least the rogers people over the phone are nice and say sorry over and over again.
Back to the drawing board....

I may get the white one if it has some improvements. Everyone seems to have. Black iP4 these days (except me of course)

I may get the white one if it has some improvements. Everyone seems to have. Black iP4 these days (except me of course)

If the black are limited the white will be even harder to find.

If the black are limited the white will be even harder to find.

Probably, but I didn't find a black one neither, so I'm ready to wait.

walked into my local rogers today, got lucky and just picked one up as they just got a shipment. there was a line up as i was leaving tho.

interesting thing, the rep remarked that the white one has popped up on their system now, guess it'll be available soon?

Congrats in your new iPhone 4.

interesting thing, the rep remarked that the white one has popped up on their system now, guess it'll be available soon?

Nice!

How do people have time to line up every day, I dont get it?!?!

I'll tell you how. There are guys that hire marginalized people to sit in line for hours and hours to purchase a phone outright. Then they take the phones and give them 20-30 per phone. This is why you see people lining up. I personally saw this at Fairview today. There was a guy who had 15 people in line for him. They each took 2 phones and once they were done they would disappear around the corner out of site and get paid.

I guess this guy has a great business going on but for those of us wanting a phone to actually use we have to wait.

Frustrated with this situation I went right up beside this guy and offered one of his minions $ to step out if line and give me her spot. As I was the next person after the cut off and everyone else was getting their phones I got the Fairview manager to agree to this. Needless to say the guy was not happy! :-)

In the long run, I met some nice people, gave a young girl some money for her time and got myself a 32gb iPhone 4

One reason for this is that we're the only country with unlock iPhones. (I think).
Me, Still waiting for a white one.

One reason for this is that we're the only country with unlock iPhones. (I think).
Me, Still waiting for a white one.

Nope. UK and France also, possibly more..

Nope. UK and France also, possibly more..

Thanks for the info.

WTF! I don't understand this??
I went to an Apple store last night about 20 min. before they closed; same answer no phones and nobody knows anything.
This morning I went to that exact same store 30 min. before it opens to find a line-up and Apple employees were also there managing this iP4 line, which was now closed because the amount of people in the line amounted to the exact number of phones they have.

This is what makes no sense; when did the shipment arrive?
The mall doesn’t open until 10am it was only 9:30am; the people in line were probably there really early, I’d say around 8am.
So when did the shipment arrive?????

I seriously Apple is limiting the about of phones they sell pre-day and the store has a room full of them to make it seem there’s a high demand…You know BS hype!

Apple FU! Getting really tired of this game! It's just a f'n phone.

WTF! I don't understand this??
I went to an Apple store last night about 20 min. before they closed; same answer no phones and nobody knows anything.
This morning I went to that exact same store 30 min. before it opens to find a line-up and Apple employees were also there managing this iP4 line, which was now closed because the amount of people in the line amounted to the exact number of phones they have.

This is what makes no sense; when did the shipment arrive?
The mall doesn’t open until 10am it was only 9:30am; the people in line were probably there really early, I’d say around 8am.
So when did the shipment arrive?????

I seriously Apple is limiting the about of phones they sell pre-day and the store has a room full of them to make it seem there’s a high demand…You know BS hype!

Apple FU! Getting really tired of this game! It's just a f'n phone.

Totally agreed. However, does anyone if the Apple Store is getting stock over the weekend?

I showed up about 40 minutes before the store opened and I was about 11th in line.

It took them a while to get going, but I walked out with my 32GB iPhone4 around 11:40AM. About 2hrs 45min total - still too long.

Got to really dig into my email in-box on the Blackberry while waiting in line, however.

I showed up about 40 minutes before the store opened and I was about 11th in line.

It took them a while to get going, but I walked out with my 32GB iPhone4 around 11:40AM. About 2hrs 45min total - still too long.

Got to really dig into my email in-box on the Blackberry while waiting in line, however.

Which store did you go to?

Which store did you go to?

Rideau

I showed up about 40 minutes before the store opened and I was about 11th in line.

It took them a while to get going, but I walked out with my 32GB iPhone4 around 11:40AM. About 2hrs 45min total - still too long.

Got to really dig into my email in-box on the Blackberry while waiting in line, however.

I think I speak for all of us in the GTA in saying that will never happen here. I have been in line as of 6:45 am in fairview and still have been 91st in line and no phone. Maybe that will happen in a month or so.

WTF! I don't understand this??
I went to an Apple store last night about 20 min. before they closed; same answer no phones and nobody knows anything.
This morning I went to that exact same store 30 min. before it opens to find a line-up and Apple employees were also there managing this iP4 line, which was now closed because the amount of people in the line amounted to the exact number of phones they have.

This is what makes no sense; when did the shipment arrive?
The mall doesn’t open until 10am it was only 9:30am; the people in line were probably there really early, I’d say around 8am.
So when did the shipment arrive?????

I seriously Apple is limiting the about of phones they sell pre-day and the store has a room full of them to make it seem there’s a high demand…You know BS hype!

Apple FU! Getting really tired of this game! It's just a f'n phone.

What a joke! They definitely had them the night before.
Did you tell them that you where there last night?

About 2hrs 45min total - still too long.
.
Ridiculous! A month later and we still have line ups in Ottawa!
And most of the phones just go directly to UsedOttawa &
I hope Nokia or Samsung would come out with a serious competition for iP4 so we had another choice!

Everyone is signing contracts. This is why there is a line. APPLE helps you out with that mess. If it was just getting an unlocked phone, then there would be no line ups. You would be in and out!

jeez months after release and there are STILL lineups.

This is bollocks.

Everyone is signing contracts. This is why there is a line. APPLE helps you out with that mess. If it was just getting an unlocked phone, then there would be no line ups. You would be in and out!

This was not the case the other day. Out of all the people to get a phone (50ish) 41 were Hardware Upgrade or new activation. The rest were unlocked purchases. I don't believe you sign a contract if your phone is unlocked.

I still believe all this lineup nonsense is a result of Apple selling unlocked iphones in Canada .

If they were selling them locked to the provider of your choice, we'd all have ours by now.

I tend to think the excessive lines are more due to people looking to profiteer from the sale of unlocked iPhones on Craigslist and other for sale forums. These people don't even want the iPhone 4, they're just looking to make a quick buck. Which is pretty insane considering the amount of time it takes to actually get one in the first place, and what's the profit, $100?

They're just ruining it for everyone else with their greed.

Bottom line, why wait in line when you can just order one from Apple's website?

I tend to think the excessive lines are more due to people looking to profiteer from the sale of unlocked iPhones on Craigslist and other for sale forums. These people don't even want the iPhone 4, they're just looking to make a quick buck. Which is pretty insane considering the amount of time it takes to actually get one in the first place, and what's the profit, $100?

They're just ruining it for everyone else with their greed.

Bottom line, why wait in line when you can just order one from Apple's website?

That's probably part of the reason for the lines. It could also be part of a production issue and the shortened length of time between countries for product roll-out. Most of the folks in line were getting Rogers upgrades or new Rogers activations.

If they had an option for ordering a Roger's activation iPhone on-line - I would have chosen that option.

Hey wondering if anyone knew rideau had any stock of iphones 4 or is likely to have stock tomorrow?

Any one know if Ottawa Rideau store have any Iphones or if they are likely to have some tomorrow?

That's probably part of the reason for the lines. It could also be part of a production issue and the shortened length of time between countries for product roll-out. Most of the folks in line were getting Rogers upgrades or new Rogers activations.

If they had an option for ordering a Roger's activation iPhone on-line - I would have chosen that option.

so would I. I'd love to get one, but there's no way I'm lining up.

"why don't you just buy it from Apple's website?" Unfortunately, they do not do HUP's on their website. If they did I'd have my phone by now and so would another million or so people. I've still yet to line up for this phone and I'm less likely to everyday. I figure if I'm giving a company nearly a thousand dollars of my hard-earned money, I'm not going to inconvenience myself further by lining up every day. Getting this phone locally is a stroke of luck. Stores like Futureshop, Bestbuy, or The Source near me haven't had iP4's since LAUNCH DAY when they got maybe 5 tops. And the lines aren't getting better because the September 30th deadline is coming up for free bumpers and the 6GB data offer. Soooo I dunno guys...Good luck!

I've lost interest in iP4.
Maybe it's a good thing that I didn't get one yet.
I will wait until christmas.
With arrival of Windows Mobile 7 & Android 2.2 , there maybe at last some real competition for iP4.

i figure if i'm giving a company nearly a thousand dollars of my hard-earned money, i'm not going to inconvenience myself further by lining up every day!

+1

"why don't you just buy it from Apple's website?" Unfortunately, they do not do HUP's on their website. I figure if I'm giving a company nearly a thousand dollars of my hard-earned money, I'm not going to inconvenience myself further by lining up every day.

I'm sure I'm missing something but to me these two statements are contradictory. If you're giving a company nearly a thousand bucks, just order the thing from Apple.ca and you can avoid lines. It sounds like what you're lining up for is the HUP, in which case you aren't giving apple the thousand bucks, you're looking for the HUP discount and paying the carrier.

Personally, I didn't feel that Rogers' HUP was worth another 3 year 'commitment' so I paid Apple the full price for the phone, received it in three weeks, and the only line I had to endure was 15 minutes at a Rogers store to buy a micro-sim card.

I ordered my iPhone 4 from the Apple Store online on August 30, a 32 BG black model. It was to ship Sept 21 with a September 28 arrival.

Today I received an email from Apple that it has shipped and will be delivered on September 17. Looks like the supply is catching up to demand.

It sounds like what you're lining up for is the HUP, in which case you aren't giving apple the thousand bucks, you're looking for the HUP discount and paying the carrier.

It's not HUP vs Unlocked for me, I don't care, lol. I'm just not into the nonsense anymore, I'm not lining up (never did), I stopped calling my carrier last month. Do I want an iP4? Of course, and right now it looks like buying it from Apple.ca is the only way but it shouldn't be like that. Not that it'll change anything for past and future launches but it's still ridiculous.

The main reason that I personally did not order online in the first place is because I had a bad experience pre-ordering my 1g iPod Touch, and since then I'm very adverse to handing over tons of money and not having my purchased item right away. But that's me, my choice, but my point is when you want to buy something, you should have the option. Just my 2 cents...tacked onto $779 plus tax.

Also starting to consider making a full price purchase from apple.ca and not signing a HUP 3-yr contract.

I see no way in the immediate future to perform a HUP. Even when there is stock it's all sold out while I'm at work. I traipse around to the few stores I try regularly and they smile but let me know they all sold out in a flash and that I should keep trying while they know and I know I have little or no hope - unless I contemplate taking a day off work - are people really doing this? I'm not considering it.

I am extremely frustrated that Rogers wont just take my order, stock or not, and fulfil it when they can. This has been a very poor Rogers customer experience.

If I did buy outright from Apple it might give me more room to bargain with Rogers in the future for the cost of my service.

:ptptptptp:yawn::ptptptptp
:mad::(:mad:

The biggest take-away from this, IMHO, has been that Rogers has the most iPhone Customers. Bell and Telus customers have been able to get iPhones from Stores and online for a while (Bell even has them "in stock" - shipping within 15 days if you order on the website right now).

Rogers has *so* much demand, due to HUP's I guess? Apple has consistently had the iPhone 4 at "Ships: 3 weeks" since launch, meaning you could always get one online from Apple. The only people who've really bungled this launch then have been Rogers (or by proxy Apple - for not affording Rogers more quantities for their larger customer base?)

If I did buy outright from Apple it might give me more room to bargain with Rogers in the future for the cost of my service.

That's more or less a big part of my decision. Rogers would give me the $259 discount in return for another three years. So I'd be paying $400 for the phone, which would be locked to Rogers, and I'd be on another 3 year contract with them.

Or, spend the $659, get an unlocked phone (which one assumes means a higher resale value, being factory unlocked right from Apple), don't sign anything with Rogers, then when my current deal is up that much sooner, either I can bargain with them in terms of other goodies, i.e. reduced rates, added services, or whatever, or maybe by that time the HUP will be a more-significant discount off whatever the hot new iPhone is at that point.

To me, it just made sense to buy the phone outright. Avoiding line-ups and frustrations with Rogers was just the icing on the cake.

Anyone having any luck finding phones these days? Rogers, Bell, applestore or otherwise?

Currently I'm with Roger's in yr 2 of a 3 yr contract. I'm in the stix, so Apple Store isn't an option.

I managed to get on a waiting list for a phone at a Bell store; so I called Roger's and told them I was going to cancel. Here's what they offered:

- $30/month off what I was paying (typically works out to ~$100/mo)...
- That they would send me a phone as soon as they had them "in stock" (whatever that means).

I told them I'll go with whoever manages to put a phone in my hand first.

Not great, but it beats hovering around Rogers Stores at the typical "delivery hour".

Still no luck. I just don't have the time to line up for hours at either an Apple store or a Rogers store. Every couple days I'll go by the Brentwood Town Centre Rogers store near my work at lunch and there is always a 15+ person line of people that have been waiting since 9:00am. The store seems to pretty consistently get one shipment of 8 iPhones a week around noon. The day that the shipment arrives varies from Wednesday to Friday.

I was excited and eager to get an iPhone for all of August, now I don't care as much. I'll get one when I can but I'm not wasting any more time in lines. I already signed up for the 6gig data plan so I'm not worried about the September expiration (Though I'm not paying for it yet. I got a helpful Rogers representative that is crediting me back all the cost of the data plan until I actually get an iPhone because my current phone can't use data)

Anyone having any luck finding phones these days? Rogers, Bell, applestore or otherwise?

Ordered from the Apple Store Aug. 30 and it arrives tomorrow 32 GB model.

Ordered from the Apple Store Aug. 30 and it arrives tomorrow 32 GB model.

Good to hear that Shipments are taking ~2 weeks now, not 3. Shows stock levels are hopefully improving.

I've followed these threads with some amusement for 2 months and made sporadic attempts to upgrade my 3G but I won't do the lineup thing. I'd thought that the fuss would have died down by now, and I'd hoped to get my upgrade in the next week.

I'm running the Scotia Toronto Waterfront half-marathon and one of the apps I use is Runkeeper. My current phone has battery-life issues and the gps is sometimes fussy. One other thing that I'm assuming is fixed is that the ipod app is buggy- songs randomly switch to fast-forward or drop out altogether while I'm running (shake to shuffle is turned off). Anyway, it would have been nice to have the new phone for this race.

So, pardon the long leadup to my question, but- anyone have any luck with upgrades in Barrie? I just called the Bryne Drive Rogers location but they say they haven't seen an IP4 in 2.5 weeks. The CedarPt location says "no, sorry." The Springwater Marketplace loc said something similar 3 days ago, the girl giving me that goofy, I'm doing my best to humour you, lotsa luck Charlie smile. Getting anything else out of these guys is like pulling teeth.

I as well have been following up on these types of threads for a while.

For the most part I'll be waiting until October and then purchasing an unlocked iPhone4. I'm in no rush to wait in line and feel frustrated, and if the rumour of internal revision ends up being true I'll really want to have an antenna issue free iP4.

I'd just like to point out that with the MBP products Apple has made internal revisions without announcement before. E.g. The Heatsink paste issue in early 2008 models, or the headset jack clicking issue on 2008/2009 MBP's etc... All the time they make internal Hardware revisions for better quality. So, as much as it's a rumour you can bet they've engineered a fix.. whether they release it in October or wait for iPhone5 is for anyone to guess.

Furthermore my decision to buy unlocked vs HUP has to do with my Fido plan. I'm on the old city fido unlimited. My contract is up for renewal (ends August 2011)and truth be told the plans they have out today do rival it, and as for coverage area.. it's all the same now and you gain no advantage anymore. Locking into a 3 year plan for a HUP is not worth it especially with new players entering the market. I think I will have more leverage on CSR when bargaining if I am not trying to get an iP4 from them. I hope to get a really good discount or new plan this way.



If you do some google research some articles come up about Foxxconn the manufacturing company that produces iPhones for Apple.

From my understanding the reason for the shortage of iP4's has to do with the design of them. The designers loved the new look and technology so much they refused to budge on their specifications for the iP4. Unfortunately there is no such machine that can produce them en masse. Due to its unique design and technology only special prototype machines are able to produce the phone. These prototype machines are not cheap.

That being said, due to the large demand of the iP4 Foxxconn eventually went forward and purchased several "prototype producing machines" in order to keep up with iP4 demand. This very well may have had something to do with why Steve Jobs flew to Asia this past month hence the recent humour story of SJ stopped for having Ninja Stars while going through security at one of the airports.

Glad to hear that China, Thailand etc are getting the iPhone 4 when apple can't even supply north america. Now for sure stock levels are going to drop and it will take even longer to get a phone. Good job Apple

Last Wednesday I was in the Telus store on Vancouver Island and asked if they had any 32G IP4, No,
was the answer , I got a call on Friday morning and they got two in, one 16g and one 32g, I got the 32g, either I am lucky or there is not that much demand in the mid island. By the way I love it, great phone, got 6g of data and listened to slacker radio all the way to Victoria last weekend.

I picked up my iPhone 4 at Telus in Upper Canada Mall, Newmarket, ON on Saturday. The (new) Apple Store there didn't have any in stock at the time. My first iPhone! So happy!

what's the news on stock these days? Surely by now apple has gotten it together?

what's the news on stock these days? Surely by now apple has gotten it together?

I went on Friday morning to the Oakridge Apple store in Vancouver at a civilized hour, getting there at about 8:20am. There was a line up. Things looked really good. At a bit before 9:00 an Apple employee came out and counted and did not tell anyone to leave. Then they started at the beginning of the line registering buyers. About 3/4 the way to me they announced "No more 16GB iPhone 4s". Then they kept going. Sadly, the guy *right in front of me* got the last iPhone 4 that morning. Bad luck. Maybe I'll just stick with my 3GS and wait till next year.

I went on Friday morning to the Oakridge Apple store in Vancouver at a civilized hour, getting there at about 8:20am. There was a line up. Things looked really good. At a bit before 9:00 an Apple employee came out and counted and did not tell anyone to leave. Then they started at the beginning of the line registering buyers. About 3/4 the way to me they announced "No more 16GB iPhone 4s". Then they kept going. Sadly, the guy *right in front of me* got the last iPhone 4 that morning. Bad luck. Maybe I'll just stick with my 3GS and wait till next year.

Thats ridiculous. How many people would you say were in line that got an iPhone before they ran out?

Thats ridiculous. How many people would you say were in line that got an iPhone before they ran out?

About 60. Some might have gotten 2 which was the maximum allowed. So if that was the case, maybe they had about 100 phones that day. Some people say Friday mornings is a good day to go because they get "stock for the weekend" LOL.

what's the news on stock these days? Surely by now apple has gotten it together?

I went by my usual stores yesterday afternoon and got a full round of heads shaking "no" as I enquired if there were any iPhone 4 in stock.

This is what I have experienced for almost 2 months now.

this is ridiculous. I heard the iPhone4 is being released in China etc.

WTF you can't bloody well get one in Canada without lining up or calling all the time for months...

I went by my usual stores yesterday afternoon and got a full round of heads shaking "no" as I enquired if there were any iPhone 4 in stock.

This is what I have experienced for almost 3 months now.

Um don't you mean almost 2 months? It didn't come out in Canada until the end of July... As for stock yes it's difficult but its no worse than it was when I got my 3G... I've actualy managed to score 2 iPhone 4's in the time it took me to get one 3G.

not true, there were 3Gs available without lining far quicker than this.

Um don't you mean almost 2 months?

Hm, you're right, I thought it launched earlier in July.

As for stock yes it's difficult but its no worse than it was when I got my 3G.

That's not even remotely true. When the 3G launched I called Rogers, ordered over the phone and had one the day after launch. Stock might have dwindled in stores sometime after that but it wasn't the same as now with people camping outside of stores from the early AM.

This time around Rogers wont do any such thing for me and that's why I'm so frustrated. I don't care if they have stock or not at the time of the call just take my ****ing order for crying out loud. The blame firmly lies at Rogers feet.

Well after waiting 2 months I got a call from our tech office saying my iPhone 4 is there!
I was very surprised as I had cancelled my order with our Corp. Rep. He wanted me to sign for a 2gb plan and lose the 6gb one.
Well, so I called the rep. and he has a waiting list of 100+ people, said if I don't want it I can send it back.
I checked my data usage with him and I have used max. of 1.2gb/month in the last 2 years and that was only during 3 months.
So now I have a iP4!
IMHO:
Is it a lot different from my 3GS? No
Is it worth lining up for? No
Greatest feature: camera + Flash and HD video
Retina display: looks better than 3GS but so did Galaxy S.

In all, I think waiting 2 months for it took all the joy away!

Well after waiting 2 months I got a call from our tech office saying my iPhone 4 is there!
I was very surprised as I had cancelled my order with our Corp. Rep. He wanted me to sign for a 2gb plan and lose the 6gb one.
Well, so I called the rep. and he has a waiting list of 100+ people, said if I don't want it I can send it back.
I checked my data usage with him and I have used max. of 1.2gb/month in the last 2 years and that was only during 3 months.
So now I have a iP4!
IMHO:
Is it a lot different from my 3GS? No
Is it worth lining up for? No
Greatest feature: camera + Flash and HD video
Retina display: looks better than 3GS but so did Galaxy S.

In all, I think waiting 2 months for it took all the joy away!
Congrats! I think that waiting so long has taken the joy away for me, too. I was excited for over a month but now I strongly suspect that when I finally get my iPhone the main emotion will be "It's about friggin' time".

Well after waiting 2 months I got a call from our tech office saying my iPhone 4 is there!
I was very surprised as I had cancelled my order with our Corp. Rep. He wanted me to sign for a 2gb plan and lose the 6gb one.
Well, so I called the rep. and he has a waiting list of 100+ people, said if I don't want it I can send it back.
I checked my data usage with him and I have used max. of 1.2gb/month in the last 2 years and that was only during 3 months.
So now I have a iP4!
IMHO:
Is it a lot different from my 3GS? No
Is it worth lining up for? No
Greatest feature: camera + Flash and HD video
Retina display: looks better than 3GS but so did Galaxy S.

In all, I think waiting 2 months for it took all the joy away!

Really??
I went from a 3G so my opinion is the exact opposite. I would have waited 2 months for this if I had to.

I have to echo these sentiments exactly... I waited for over a month since release for the iPhone4 for myself and my wife. Here's my story...

In the beginning, on the day of release, we decided not to lineup but to wait a couple weeks after - we did, 3 long painful weeks of waiting while some of our friends got theirs and were gloating. I started asking Apple at Oakridge and PC about what their shipments were like. Same answer every time - "oh I don't know, lots". People were still lining up every single day and by the 4th week, we decided to give the lineup at Apple Oakridge a try, arrived at 4am on Friday, 21st in line woo hoo. Things were looking good until we got inside and the store manager told all of us no phones came in...

You can imagine how we felt - utterly disgusted that we waited since 4am all for nothing. At that point, we decided to forget the whole thing and wait until all this died down even if it meant waiting till December.

Whenever I had errands to run, I'd check the cellular stores which that day I popped in at Telus since they were getting shipments and still having stock. No stock at Brentwood but they would hold 2 in case they come in. A couple days after my visit, the manager texted me saying they had 2 phones for us BUT - we were away in the states camping for the weekend and already had just crossed the border. How'd that feel? Gah! Why did we have to pick this weekend to go away? LOL. Ok lets forget this for now.

A week later, I had heard that Rogers at Brentwood was getting regular shipments so on the Tuesday after labour day I checked with the store and they said they do get regular shipments of between 6 and 15 phones but none had come in on that Tuesday, maybe Weds. I decided that Thursday I'd try and lineup considering the lineup there isn't all that bad, about 15 people line up most days.

Thursday morning 8am I went down there and stood in line, #1 in line things were looking good. By 815am a few more people joined, we all waited until the store manager arrived. He told us there might be a shipment today as they didn't get any Tues or Weds... Between 11am and 2pm is when the UPS guy comes around dropping off shipments. Which he did at 1245pm... the staff starts opening boxes and... NOTHING. Argh!

Thursday night, I decided I would TRY one more time, Friday and after that ...THATS IT. Friday morning, lined up at 8am again, #1 for the 2nd day in a row, same people from the day before lined up, we all joked around about the shipments and such. The same usual drill - manager shows up, says maybe today, maybe monday (don't tease us like that!) and we waited until the UPS guy shows up, he's got more boxes than he did yesterday. Staff opens one of the boxes and says 6 - 16GB phones came in, no 32s.

I was holding out for 2 32GB phones, being first in line, they asked if I wanted to wait for 32s or take the 16s and exchange them for 32s within 15 days and no more than 30 minutes call time... hmm decisions! decisions! I told them to hold 2 and stood aside texting my wife. Naturally she says she wants to wait for 32s, I text back said I'm tired of waiting and lets just take the 16s for now, exchange later etc etc. Besides we'd save ourselves $220 by taking the 16s at HUP pricing. Would I have ordered unlocked from Apple, no.. I do NOT have that kind of money and we are not going to go into more debt just to get an iPhone.

Anyway I told the staff we'd take the 16s (lots of groans from those in the lineup) Upgraded, activated and was out the door. FINALLY got our iPhone 4s BUT....

I have to say, at this point, I wasn't all that excited about finally getting the iPhone because all that waiting while your friends gloated about their phones mainly killed the fun. At LEAST... we have our phones and we are absolutely loving FaceTime. I am hearing impaired and having FaceTime gives me a sense of independence and some of our friends have iPhones I can chat with them or use sign language, its great! Its about time that a phone has video camera... true portability.

The only wish I have is that FaceTime works on 3G although Apple says in due time, it will be 3G capable, they just need time to work with the cellular providers and develop a good compression algorithm.

Was it worth all the wait and frustration, somewhat... I think Apple sort of shot themselves in the foot with this release. I would have expected a company of this magnitude would manufacture enough well in advance so there is more than enough to satisfy the demand at release and during ensuing days after release. Also it would have been nice if there was a policy in place for the canadian release where only one per phone number would be in place, that way more people can get their phones even if its locked or unlocked. I shake my head at those who buy unlocked phones, sell them on craigslist for 1000 bucks, come back and buy more with a different credit card... would I pay 1000 for a phone? heck no!

I hope the rest of you that have not gotten their phones yet will get theirs soon, I think the key here is patience - a lot of it. Hang in there!!

JB

what time should i show up at the apple store in hopes of getting an Iphone tomorrow?

at least an hour after me.
;)

Congrats! I think that waiting so long has taken the joy away for me, too. I was excited for over a month but now I strongly suspect that when I finally get my iPhone the main emotion will be "It's about friggin' time".

LOL!
Thanks! Exactly how I felt: "It's about friggin' time"

Really??
I went from a 3G so my opinion is the exact opposite. I would have waited 2 months for this if I had to.

Glad to hear that. For me it's not a big update from 3GS.

I have to echo these sentiments exactly... I waited for over a month since release for the iPhone4 for myself and my wife. Here's my story...
...

JB

Wow! What a story!
Although it took 2 months, and a new 3 year contract, I'm glad that at least I didn't line up and at the end got the 32GB.

Best of luck to all the other iPhone 4 hunters!

Im just so tired of this. I've had my plan since Aug 12th, and I still can't get one. Im not willing to wait in line...I thought by this time..mid september the hype would be over and shipments would have caught up..but for the life of me,...I still can't find any. Every time I call the rogers stores they never have any...its so frustrating. ...I called the apple store and he told me to arrive at 6am and line up ...and that's IF a shipment would come in...thats ridiculous to me though. It is unfortunate I can't just order the phone from rogers and have them deliver it.

Anyhow...I just wanted to vent.

Why Rogers doesn't allow people to order by phone or online?
Seriously, what's their excuse?
They allow it for Corp. accounts. I did it and yes it took 2 months but no line ups!

I'm still going to wait for the 5 :)

Why Rogers doesn't allow people to order by phone or online?
Seriously, what's their excuse?
They allow it for Corp. accounts. I did it and yes it took 2 months but no line ups!

To avoid having months of backorders

I'm still going to wait for the 5 :)

hahaha...at the wait times for the iphone 4, by the time i get it, the 5 will have come out...and the same circus gong show will start up again.

Im going to give it another 2 months..if nothing pops up, im going to start looking at other smart phones.

there will indeed be a few others coming out pretty soon.

I played with a samsung galaxy and that, was a really great phone. It hasn't come to canada yet but apparently will very soon.

I guess it depends on whether I can actually -get- an iphone anytime soon. This 3G is dying a slow death.

I played with a samsung galaxy and that, was a really great phone. It hasn't come to canada yet but apparently will very soon.
.

Bell has on type of Galaxy S already and Rogers is getting one "soon" =for the last 2 months.

it is a really good phone.

i am thinking of waiting for the HTC desire HD, now that's a nice phone.

Really??
I went from a 3G so my opinion is the exact opposite. I would have waited 2 months for this if I had to.

They key here is that you were on the 3G which it is a HUGE upgrade from not so much the 3GS. In any case I feel it was well worth lining up for...both times. Though my opinion might be different if the lines hadn't happened to be short when I hit them. First one was 20 min, second was about 45.

My wife has a 32GB 3GS and I recently picked up a 32GB iPhone4. I also have had a 32GB 1st Gen iPod Touch.

The biggest difference for me is the screen - the 3GS has a very good screen. However, after using the iP4 for a while now, when I pick up the wife's 3GS, the screen does not look too hot.

Next biggies would be the cameras and overall shape.


Lots of differences between the 1G iPod Touch and the iP4.

I finally got my iPhone 4! My Father has also been looking for one and lucky for me he decided to wait in line at Pacific Centre this morning. Picked up a 32gb for each of us and just dropped mine off at work for me. The screen is beautiful. Now I just want to be done work for the day so I can go home and play with it.

I finally got my iPhone 4! My Father has also been looking for one and lucky for me he decided to wait in line at Pacific Centre this morning. Picked up a 32gb for each of us and just dropped mine off at work for me. The screen is beautiful. Now I just want to be done work for the day so I can go home and play with it.

Congrats on the new phone.

Just a side not, I bought mine in Brantford. They had one for over 24 hours at the Virgin kiosk, before I picked up my 2.

I picked up my 32G Fido at 11am today at Wireless Wave. Waited for UPS guy and they did get a few Fido and Rogers phones.

That said, I also got a text from Fido stating that a "iPhone 4 is avail for a limited time" Could be retentions had my name on a list and did a big blast.

Congrats to all the new owners!
It seems the stocks are getting a little better.

Good to hear that many who haves been waiting have finally been getting an iPhone 4. I waited twice, the second time for seven hours. Despite the waits, I can still say it was worth it. Everyone who has seen or used my phone loves it.

http://www.montrealgazette.com/mobile/iphone/story.html?id=3578070

Good to hear that many who haves been waiting have finally been getting an iPhone 4. I waited twice, the second time for seven hours. Despite the waits, I can still say it was worth it. Everyone who has seen or used my phone loves it.

Did you HUP?

I got mine on the day after Launch - unlocked... so I only waited ~20 mins, got pulled out of the line and sent to a cashier.

I think these people who have waited forever in line to get them were waiting mostly for Rogers' stupid activation servers.

Rogers client here and waited 2 months. But only paid $269 for a 32gb!

iPhone wait far from over (http://www.montrealgazette.com/mobile/iphone/story.html?id=3578070)

I don't know what the story with apple and the iphone4.
I've tried a few times and have decided to skip this purchase.
Perhaps the dual core phones will be out soon........

My Rogers store put my name and number on a list. When shipment came in, they called to tell me.. Wouldn't hold one though.. I had my iPhone 4 4 days after release.

I will soon be getting an iPhone 4 will Bell, I don't think it will get here in time to get the free bumper case, I hope apple extends it.

I will soon be getting an iPhone 4 will Bell, I don't think it will get here in time to get the free bumper case, I hope apple extends it.

I think you still can get one. But you need to send in a form. The APP won't do it automatically.

ok I see, I just need to fill out a form from Apple showing proof I purchased it before September 30th and they will give me one regardless if I have the physical phone yet?

Hello All,

I just wanted to let you know that wait times for ordering the iPhone online have decreased from 3 weeks to just under 2 weeks.

I ordered the 16 GB iPhone on 13th September, and had received a notification today that it had shipped and will arrive on 29th September (assuming FedEx doesn't have a delay)

This was up from having it shipped on 4th October and delivered on 11th October.

Hopefully this helps.

Just placed an order on the 24th
Shows as shipping on Oct 18 and expected by Oct 25.

I ordered mine on the 22nd and it says it ships on Oct 14, delivers on Oct 20...and I've gotten no updates yet.

Apple.ca still says it ships in 3 weeks but some have gotten theirs earlier, just have to hope that happens more often than not.

ok I see, I just need to fill out a form from Apple showing proof I purchased it before September 30th and they will give me one regardless if I have the physical phone yet?

Even if you buy after the 30th you can still get a free bumper:

"We now know that the iPhone 4 antenna attenuation issue is even smaller than we originally thought. A small percentage of iPhone 4 users need a case, and we want to continue providing them a Bumper case for free. For everyone else, we are discontinuing the free case program on all iPhone 4s sold after September 30, 2010. We are also returning to our normal returns policy for all iPhone 4s sold after September 30. Users experiencing antenna issues should call AppleCare to request a free Bumper case." (apple.com)

The free bumper makes my $$$ iP4 a little cheaper :-)

What else is new?!

AppleInsider | iPhone 4 demand outstrips supply in China (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/09/26/iphone_4_demand_outstrips_supply_in_china.html)

gah. So it'll be months, before the lineups stop.

mine should be here sometime this week, we are getting 3 of them and they were ordered on sept. 24. I hope it comes this week and not 3 weeks later.

mine should be here sometime this week, we are getting 3 of them and they were ordered on sept. 24. I hope it comes this week and not 3 weeks later.

This week?? I dunno about that, lol.

hope not too late, i am waitting ~

Anyone know what stock at square one is like for iPhones? Is it fairly consistent deliveries each day?

maybe it's time to finally ditch rogers and their screw you attitude and go back to telus. The customer service reps are just jack[fill'erin] about this whole thing. I called a telus store and they had them. wth?

maybe it's time to finally ditch rogers and their screw you attitude and go back to telus. The customer service reps are just jack[fill'erin] about this whole thing. I called a telus store and they had them. wth?

The Rogers store in Woodstock, usually has them, orders every 2 days as well.

uh, great.

maybe it's time to finally ditch rogers and their screw you attitude and go back to telus. The customer service reps are just jack[fill'erin] about this whole thing. I called a telus store and they had them. wth?

It's just that a lot of iPhone customers are stuck in the Rogers world - having gotten a 3G with 3 year contract or HUP'd to a 3GS and have 2 years left in their contract still.

There's WAY less iPhone customers on Bell/Telus, so there's less demand for the iPhone 4's in their systems.

Totally just based on what I see on the forums and with my friends/co-workers, I'd bet at least 50% of people who own an iPhone in Canada are with Rogers/Fido. The other 50% would be split between Bell/Telus/Solo/Virgin/etc...

Was at the local FS, just 5 minutes ago. You want an iP4 with Telus...they've got 'em dancing on the shelf.

Rogers?! Bwahahahaha..."we haven't had any for 3 weeks, now".

Words fail me.

It's just that a lot of iPhone customers are stuck in the Rogers world - having gotten a 3G with 3 year contract or HUP'd to a 3GS and have 2 years left in their contract still.

There's WAY less iPhone customers on Bell/Telus, so there's less demand for the iPhone 4's in their systems.

Totally just based on what I see on the forums and with my friends/co-workers, I'd bet at least 50% of people who own an iPhone in Canada are with Rogers/Fido. The other 50% would be split between Bell/Telus/Solo/Virgin/etc...

And I don't think you can HUP on bell/telus either right? So those customers are stuck on their 3 year contracts without being able to change right? And also does anyone know what stock at apple store square one is like?

And I don't think you can HUP on bell/telus either right? So those customers are stuck on their 3 year contracts without being able to change right? And also does anyone know what stock at apple store square one is like?

I think you can HUP on Bell/Telus... I'm pretty sure. It just makes more sense for people with a 3G or 3GS to wait and whine about not being able to get one on Rogers than buy out the contract and switch or buy the unlocked ones for $700+

Rogers retentions just received some iPhones give them a call right now and order one. My brother phoned for himself and then got the rep to phone me and do my upgrade. Get on the phone everyone. direct line to retentions is 1-866-304-4248.
Your welcome......:D

Rogers retentions just received some iPhones give them a call right now and order one. My brother phoned for himself and then got the rep to phone me and do my upgrade. Get on the phone everyone. direct line to retentions is 1-866-304-4248.
Your welcome......:D

thanks. Good info. She confirmed that yes they did get some.

thanks. Good info. She confirmed that yes they did get some.

this is for sure!

Retentions has supply!

I am on the line with them now...

16 & 32 available...

now it seems that the pricing has increased from what apple told me at the local store...

so basically they tried me on at $499 for a 32 gb! If i check my eligibility online its $269! anyhow, she put me on hold and came back to tell me how great a customer i am and that i could indeed have it for $269. So be cautious, they are trying to profit form the supply issues. Just do the eligibility check and hit retentions with the results!

I am only 14 months into my 3gs though, so to get new activation pricing is pretty good in my view...

I am only 14 months into my 3gs though, so to get new activation pricing is pretty good in my view...

Yeah... you rogers guys are lucky. I'm 14 months into my 3GS Too... and Fido will give me ZIP. ZILTCH. Nada.

And I'm a $150+ a month customer (two lines).

So I just bought an unlocked from Apple. :P

+1 Called Roger's retentions and phone is on the way. Quite the rigamarole, but it's coming.

oh an thanks to newbieted for posting the details and retentions line!

i have been monitoring this thread for weeks waiting for news like this!

Cheers

C

did you guys get email confirmations?

did you guys get email confirmations?

yup, almost immediately...

though no ups shipping info yet...

+1 on the retentions thing

Called retentions and they are now out of stock on iPhones AGAIN :-(

I just got off the phone with retentions and a 32g is on the way :) should be at my house in 2 to 3 days. Finally....

is this only for Rogers retentions? any news on Fido retentions stock?

Called retentions and they are now out of stock on iPhones AGAIN :-(

Maybe, or maybe they play games.
When I called at 2:00 I arranged for one for myself, and she offered to upgrade for my wife too. I hesitated since I haven't had a chance to talk to her about it. She said no problem, there were lots, probably for the next few days. I could call back.
Maybe it depends who you get.
Maybe we are going to be victims of our own popularity. How many ehmac users called today from 2:00pm onward?
Larry

phew. I never got an email so I called back, it seems the order didn't go through? Idjiots...

I got a confirm email now and was told it'll ship in 24 hours.

phew. I never got an email so I called back, it seems the order didn't go through? Idjiots...

I got a confirm email now and was told it'll ship in 24 hours.

But it doesn't do FLASH, groovetube. ;) (100% kidding... :D )

anyone get ups notification from the past day's orders?

hey everyone, just thought I should let everyone know that Fido still has some 16GB iPhones available. I just called Retentions and they told me this. I wanted a 32Gb and was told to call back tomorrow.

Just talked to retentions (Rogers) again and now they say they have the iP4 and it's being shipped out to me.
It defiantly depends on who you get. One rep says 'no stock' and the next says 'no problem'. :-)

Just hope it really does go through. Waiting for email confirmation now.

YES!
Order confirmation received. iP4 on the way :-)