: Men Become Happier Than Women By Midlife


skinnyboy
Aug 1st, 2008, 06:54 PM
Read a similar story to the one I posted below in my local paper today.

Shouldn't be earth shattering news to anyone over 30, but just in case...


Men become happier than women by midlife

By Sharon Jayson, USA TODAY

Women start out as happy young adults but by midlife wind up the sadder sex, says a new study on satisfaction related to financial circumstances and family life, which past research has shown play a significant role in well-being and happiness.

Researchers analyzed decades of national data on 47,000 men and women to create a statistical model that shows women's happiness decreases, while men's increases, exceeding women's by age 48.

"Our approach looks at the aspirations people have and how well they fulfill them," says economist Anke Plagnol, at the University of Cambridge in England, the study's lead author.

Plagnol and co-author Richard Easterlin, an economist at the University of Southern California, used data from Roper surveys and from the General Social Survey at the University of Chicago.

The study, to be published in the next issue of the Journal of Happiness Studies, says that early in adult life, women are more likely than men to fulfill their aspirations for material goods and family life, but later, they may be divorced or separated and less financially secure. Meanwhile, men's finances and family life improve, making them "the happier of the two genders," the study says.

Economist David Blanchflower of Dartmouth University, one of several researchers who have studied the effects of age on happiness, says this new research is "really important work" because it shows how people form aspirations differently.

This study looked only at satisfaction with finances and family; other researchers say future studies need to delve into other factors that might affect happiness, such as divorce and religiosity.

"Marriage and religion are two of the biggest factors in life satisfaction," says Arthur Brooks, a Syracuse University economist.


The version I read mentioned that most of us who have lived long enough should already know this. Women who are in their physical prime can attract older dudes who have power and position. Once they hit the downside of their physical prime then they sometimes get replaced with a younger version and end up, as the writer above mentioned, the sadder sex.

Conversely, young dudes often get snubbed by women of their own age because they don't have the power and position to attract them.

Now what the study might not mention is if you're like my friend, middle-aged, divorced, not interested in a serious relationship, then you will find all the easy sex you want among all those single, divorced, financial unstable, and miserable middle-aged women. If that's what you want.

Note: I speak in general terms only. I know of older women that are single and wouldn't give my friend the time of day. But there are many others who are obviously willing.

gwillikers
Aug 1st, 2008, 09:01 PM
That article missed the most important factor... menopause.

If men had to suffer through it, there'd be more research and subsequent treatments to ease it's effect.

MLeh
Aug 2nd, 2008, 01:28 AM
I reject this study's definition of what constitutes 'happiness'. Material goods? A man? Perhaps to those who are brought up with the idea that they aren't of any value without those things.

But sociological statistics are just those: statistics. Maybe they're asking the wrong questions.

skinnyboy
Aug 2nd, 2008, 01:35 AM
I reject this study's definition of what constitutes 'happiness'. Material goods? A man? Perhaps to those who are brought up with the idea that they aren't of any value without those things.

But sociological statistics are just those: statistics. Maybe they're asking the wrong questions.

Maybe you do and I do, but have you ever seen some of the line-ups at Wal-Mart :)

MLeh
Aug 2nd, 2008, 01:39 AM
I don't shop at Walmart. ;)

skinnyboy
Aug 2nd, 2008, 01:44 AM
I don't shop at Walmart. ;)

That explains why you reject the study's findings of what constitutes "happiness".

skinnyboy
Aug 2nd, 2008, 01:51 AM
MLeh

Just noticed your Emerson quote. Ever read Emerson's The Conduct Of Life? It's the only Emerson I've read but one my of favourites, books that is.

MannyP Design
Aug 2nd, 2008, 07:49 AM
That article missed the most important factor... menopause.

If men had to suffer through it, there'd be more research and subsequent treatments to ease it's effect.Oh, but men DO suffer through it. Just not directly. :D

But I take issue with your last comment, however. Look at all the various Breast Cancer fundraisers, organizations and awareness programs; now many prostate cancer fundraisers or walk-a-thons have you seen lately? How about even an awareness ad or commercial?

I rest my case.

MLeh
Aug 2nd, 2008, 08:35 AM
MLeh

Just noticed your Emerson quote. Ever read Emerson's The Conduct Of Life? It's the only Emerson I've read but one my of favourites, books that is.

Emerson is probably one of the reasons I reject studies that show material goods as being an indicator of happiness. ;)

It is easy in the world to live after the world's opinion; it is easy in solitude to live after our own; but the great man is he who in the midst of the crowd keeps with perfect sweetness the independence of solitude.

And I wish everyone would quit treating what is a natural thing - aging - as some sort of 'illness'. Men get old - their muscles sag, their hair falls out. Women age - menses cease and changes occur. The economic advantage men have had, to this point, has meant that they can try to recapture their lost youth by getting a younger wife. However ... once that economic advantage is gone, they're still just saggy old men.

Dr.G.
Aug 2nd, 2008, 10:59 AM
"The economic advantage men have had, to this point, has meant that they can try to recapture their lost youth by getting a younger wife. However ... once that economic advantage is gone, they're still just saggy old men." MLeh, sad, but all too true.

Sitting Bull
Aug 2nd, 2008, 11:01 AM
Yup, I'm sagging:eek:
Not much money:(
But my wife still loves me.

Dr.G.
Aug 2nd, 2008, 11:09 AM
SB, my wife still loves me as I still love her. Maybe that is why vision dims a bit as you get older. I focus upon the beautiful person she is inside and not the little wrinkles that might be coming with age.

Sitting Bull
Aug 2nd, 2008, 11:21 AM
Agreed,
I would rather have long term wrinkles than short term woman any day:D

jamesB
Aug 2nd, 2008, 01:10 PM
Agreed,
I would rather have long term wrinkles than short term woman any day:D
As someone who is celebrating their wedding annivesary (53 years) this month, I'd like to say "amen" to that.:clap:

jb.

rgray
Aug 2nd, 2008, 02:48 PM
Pretty lame to post an article without its original reference. It is so easy to create a hot link that NOT providing such a link to the original is inexcusable.

Dr.G.
Aug 2nd, 2008, 03:57 PM
Very true, SB. Very true.

skinnyboy
Aug 2nd, 2008, 10:35 PM
Emerson is probably one of the reasons I reject studies that show material goods as being an indicator of happiness. ;)

It is easy in the world to live after the world's opinion; it is easy in solitude to live after our own; but the great man is he who in the midst of the crowd keeps with perfect sweetness the independence of solitude.

And I wish everyone would quit treating what is a natural thing - aging - as some sort of 'illness'. Men get old - their muscles sag, their hair falls out. Women age - menses cease and changes occur. The economic advantage men have had, to this point, has meant that they can try to recapture their lost youth by getting a younger wife. However ... once that economic advantage is gone, they're still just saggy old men.

I don't disagree with your view of materialism=happiness is in reality BS.

Nor do I disagree that swapping the old wife for the new wife isn't going to help the Donald Trump wannabes turn back the clock. But i doubt that's the only reason. Among other things it's probably meant to show one's power and continued virility (whether real or imagined).

But people with our attitudes are in the minority by far.

skinnyboy
Aug 2nd, 2008, 10:45 PM
Pretty lame to post an article without its original reference. It is so easy to create a hot link that NOT providing such a link to the original is inexcusable.

Pretty anal with the hot link stuff, eh?

Men become happier than women by midlife - USATODAY.com (http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2008-07-29-happier-gender_N.htm)

Didn't really think it needed it, pretty straight forward stuff, but there you are. Now your universe is in order again :)

gwillikers
Aug 2nd, 2008, 11:51 PM
But I take issue with your last comment, however. Look at all the various Breast Cancer fundraisers, organizations and awareness programs; now many prostate cancer fundraisers or walk-a-thons have you seen lately? How about even an awareness ad or commercial?

I rest my case.

The funding/attention discrepancy is really about age rather than gender. Breast cancer strikes at much younger ages than does prostate cancer, and it kills more people as well.
Also, women are way better activists and much more organized. They've been pressuring governments for a long time about increasing funding for breast cancer. Men, on the other hand, have to be reminded to even go to the doctors office for a checkup, let alone become activists. We're really our own worst enemy in some ways.

Sitting Bull
Aug 3rd, 2008, 09:38 AM
Agreed,
WE as men really do a poor job of being pro active in regards to our health. I also think that woman may also be more in tune with their own bodies.

skinnyboy
Aug 3rd, 2008, 01:49 PM
Agreed,
WE as men really do a poor job of being pro active in regards to our health. I also think that woman may also be more in tune with their own bodies.

Generally speaking, dudes aren't as likely to talk with each other about their health problems as are women. The attitude is more likely to be, "walk it off" and then discuss the more serious issues of the day like the game last night or that hot new waitress :D

Therefore, if they aren't even willing to discuss the stuff then gathering together to support such a cause is even more remote.

screature
Aug 3rd, 2008, 06:21 PM
I think also one of the reasons why men tend to be happier as they age is because their testosterone levels decrease. It's hard to be happy when you are "pent up" all the time.

skinnyboy
Aug 3rd, 2008, 06:48 PM
I think also one of the reasons why men tend to be happier as they age is because their testosterone levels decrease. It's hard to be happy when you are "pent up" all the time.

I thought internet porn alleviated a lot of that? :lmao:

Wolfshead
Aug 4th, 2008, 10:25 PM
Women who are in their physical prime can attract older dudes who have power and position. Once they hit the downside of their physical prime then they sometimes get replaced with a younger version and end up, as the writer above mentioned, the sadder sex.



I don't know how to break this to you skinnyboy, but the happiness of women is not dependant upon having a man.