: Emergency!


Quicksilver G4
Jun 5th, 2008, 07:12 AM
Hello,

I need a program for Monday, so it's an emergency. I want to virtualize a Mac OS X Tiger OS on my Leopard machine because of one program compatibility, is this a possibility? It wouldn't let me install tiger on my default drive.

Thanks!

zarquon
Jun 5th, 2008, 07:50 AM
Hello,

I need a program for Monday, so it's an emergency. I want to virtualize a Mac OS X Tiger OS on my Leopard machine because of one program compatibility, is this a possibility? It wouldn't let me install tiger on my default drive.

Thanks!

How about getting an external drive, and installing 10.4 on it? Then just boot into it when you need that one app. This is what I do in a similar situation.

Z.

Quicksilver G4
Jun 5th, 2008, 08:13 AM
Well, Problem is, I do have an external drive, but it's desktop size, and has a large desktop stand, requires a power adapter. My portable one is USB so I can't boot of it. If that's the only way to go I'll do it, but I'm looking for other options.

guytoronto
Jun 5th, 2008, 08:37 AM
You cannot virtualize the Mac OS, (without resorting to illegal hacks, patches, pokes, and prods to force the OS to run in an environment like VMWare Fusion.

If you need a portable boot version, lots of options for portable hard drives with FireWire.

CdnPhoto
Jun 5th, 2008, 08:55 AM
I'm pretty sure you can boot off the USB drive. If you have an iPod, you can boot off of that (http://features.engadget.com/2004/08/17/how-to-use-an-ipod-as-a-bootable-drive/) too.

GWR
Jun 5th, 2008, 10:14 AM
I'm pretty sure you can boot off the USB drive. If you have an iPod, you can boot off of that (http://features.engadget.com/2004/08/17/how-to-use-an-ipod-as-a-bootable-drive/) too.

The Engadget article you link to is from 2004 and refers to using the old iPod with firewire connection as a bootable drive.

This week's HOW-TO is a handy one for the Mac folks out there who want to run multiple operating systems, but not install them to their hard drive, all using an iPod as a bootable FireWire drive.

monokitty
Jun 5th, 2008, 10:20 AM
I'm pretty sure you can boot off the USB drive.

Applies to Intel-based Macs only. (Which the OP doesn't have.)

Moscool
Jun 5th, 2008, 10:44 AM
Lars, are you saying that firewire is no longer a requirement to boot off my MBP? Would make a huge impact on how I manage my backup drives.

Second question, while we're at it: what happens if you plug Mac formatted USB drive in a vista machine? Again, it would make a big difference to my backup strategy if all my drives were OSX Journaled (my photo disks are currently FAT).

Thanks

monokitty
Jun 5th, 2008, 10:55 AM
Lars, are you saying that firewire is no longer a requirement to boot off my MBP?

Correct. Intel-based Macs can boot off of USB connected externals.

Moscool
Jun 5th, 2008, 11:44 AM
Correct. Intel-based Macs can boot off of USB connected externals.

Swell

Any thoughts on my second question?

monokitty
Jun 5th, 2008, 12:27 PM
Second question, while we're at it: what happens if you plug Mac formatted USB drive in a vista machine?

Incompatible (no difference between it being a USB or FireWire drive). A Mac-formatted hard drive is not recognized by a PC. If the drive is to be used between both computers, it should be FAT formatted.

eMacMan
Jun 5th, 2008, 12:42 PM
I know with XP there is an app called MacDrive that will let you read and write to HFS+ formatted drives.

NOTE: I do not know if or how well this works with Vista. Will let someone with greater Windoze interest comment further.

makuribu
Jun 5th, 2008, 01:33 PM
I know with XP there is an app called MacDrive that will let you read and write to HFS+ formatted drives.

NOTE: I do not know if or how well this works with Vista. Will let someone with greater Windoze interest comment further.

MacDrive 7 is Vista compatible. (http://www.mediafour.com/)

Best solution for OP's problem is to buy an external, bootable 2.5" FW drive and install Tiger.

Moscool
Jun 5th, 2008, 01:45 PM
MacDrive 7 is Vista compatible

Clever stuff, but requires installation on the PCs. I am using these drives to be able to show photographs/share Lightroom libraries with PC users.

So I guess I'll keep these drives in FAT for the time being. Not a big deal, but SuperDuper will not backup to a FAT drive, so I have to drag and drop each time...

I agree, Quicksilver needs to get himself an external disk: dirt cheap and always useful to have around...

Quicksilver G4
Jun 5th, 2008, 03:36 PM
Thanks for the idea of the iPod. Will try that, but wouldn't it be too slow to be used as a startup drive? If it is too slow I'll just use my desktop hard drive as it is a 1-time occurance.