: iPhone: the Newton's Revenge


rgray
Jan 11th, 2007, 03:00 PM
iPhone: the Newton's Revenge

When I found this (http://blog.wired.com/cultofmac/2007/01/iphone_the_newt.html) article I was so pleased.... The exact same thought had occured moments before as I was having to move some old Newton stuff....... :eek: That is exactly right..!!

Apple could skip the Cysco suit by renaming the iPhone as a Newton..... When, not if!!, When I get my iPhone I will name it Newton...

I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, loved my Newtons but the communications tech just wasn't there at the time....

Sweet!!!

Vexel
Jan 11th, 2007, 03:10 PM
iPhone: the Newton's Revenge

When I found this (http://blog.wired.com/cultofmac/2007/01/iphone_the_newt.html) article I was so pleased.... The exact same thought had occured moments before as I was having to move some old Newton stuff....... :eek: That is exactly right..!!

Apple could skip the Cysco suit by renaming the iPhone as a Newton..... When, not if!!, When I get my iPhone I will name it Newton...

I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, loved my Newtons but the communications tech just wasn't there at the time....

Sweet!!!

Yup, the Newton was definitely a stroke of genius that SJ should have kept upon returning to Apple.

Great little device.. and still used today by fanatics :)

rgray
Jan 11th, 2007, 03:23 PM
....... SJ should have kept upon returning to Apple..........
Looks like he did exactly that!!

capitalK
Jan 11th, 2007, 05:13 PM
I wish the iPhone had some of the features of the Newton!

1) User-replaceable battery

2) Expansion slot (Newton has PCMCIA)

3) Software is more open, you can develop software for it (indeed people have even created hacked drivers for 802.11b wireless PCMCIA cards and CompactFlash storage)

zarquon
Jan 11th, 2007, 05:58 PM
I wish the iPhone had some of the features of the Newton!

1) User-replaceable battery

2) Expansion slot (Newton has PCMCIA)

3) Software is more open, you can develop software for it (indeed people have even created hacked drivers for 802.11b wireless PCMCIA cards and CompactFlash storage)

Has there been any spec yet that shows the battery is not replacable?
I don't know either way, but every cellphone I have ever had (or seen) has a removable battery. Just because the iPods don't, I wouldn't bet that the iPhone doesn't.

Z.

HowEver
Jan 11th, 2007, 08:07 PM
I would.

Has there been any spec yet that shows the battery is not replacable?
I don't know either way, but every cellphone I have ever had (or seen) has a removable battery. Just because the iPods don't, I wouldn't bet that the iPhone doesn't.

Z.

kloan
Jan 11th, 2007, 08:42 PM
Yeah, I would too.. it's been referred to as being more like the iPod in that not anyone can develop and add software to it, so I can see it being the same for the battery, which is a shame.. but at the same time, it's pretty darn easy to change an iPod battery when it's time for a new one, so I can't see it being too difficult with the iPhone.... but no extra batteries, that's still a negative.. OTG power would be a wee bit annoying to lug around, unless there was some sort of rapid quick charger.

Vexel
Jan 12th, 2007, 08:34 AM
I can think of 1 advantage that the iPhone is going to have over others with regard to the battery.

It can be plugged into a USB port for charging.

I understand, that's still plugging it in. But, that leaves a lot more places it can be plugged in, on the go. I'm thinking laptops.

rgray
Jan 12th, 2007, 08:59 AM
Newton 2000/2100 (just for those who may never have seen one..) :D
http://www.msu.edu/~luckie/gallery/newton2000.gif
I wonder if Apple might sometime build a retro-iPhone in a Newton-type case - p'haps some sort of Newton anniversary issue.... Or how long it will take some modder to do the job for them... :clap:

The Newton could do some things that the iPhone can't (yet ??) - like sketch....

HowEver
Jan 12th, 2007, 09:13 AM
My understanding is that Jobs does not like looking back too much, especially for a product he associates with Sculley and which he terminated pretty much his first day back at Apple after his hiatus.

None of this answers what I will do with my Newton. Retrofit an iPhone into it, perhaps?

Newton 2000/2100 (just for those who may never have seen one..) :D
I wonder if Apple might sometime build a retro-iPhone in a Newton-type case - p'haps some sort of Newton anniversary issue.... Or how long it will take some modder to do the job for them... :clap:

The Newton could do some things that the iPhone can't (yet ??) - like sketch....

kloan
Jan 12th, 2007, 03:17 PM
I can think of 1 advantage that the iPhone is going to have over others with regard to the battery.

It can be plugged into a USB port for charging.

I understand, that's still plugging it in. But, that leaves a lot more places it can be plugged in, on the go. I'm thinking laptops.
I'm pretty sure there are other phones already capable of this.

Neptune5.com
Jan 13th, 2007, 02:29 AM
I can think of 1 advantage that the iPhone is going to have over others with regard to the battery.

It can be plugged into a USB port for charging.

I understand, that's still plugging it in. But, that leaves a lot more places it can be plugged in, on the go. I'm thinking laptops.

all motorola phones use USB to charge when pluged into a mac or to get data when in a PC

Vexel
Jan 13th, 2007, 07:17 AM
I'm pretty sure there are other phones already capable of this.all motorola phones use USB to charge when pluged into a mac or to get data when in a PC

Thanks, I didn't know that. :)

On another note, how many people actually have a 2nd or 3rd battery for their phone and take it with them? All of the cellphones I've had for the past 5 years got plugged in when they were dead/dying. No extra battery.

Mind you, I don't own a smartphone that gets tons of usage.. but, nonetheless.. they were work phones.

I'm using a Telus Mike phone right now.. for convenience of the PTT feature while on the jobsite. It's really not required for me to have extra battery power.

SkyHook
Jan 16th, 2007, 11:06 PM
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Macaholic
Jan 17th, 2007, 08:47 AM
According to an iPhone FAQ from David Pogue, the battery is not user replaceable -- but it is factory replaceable. Regardless, this is unacceptable for a cell phone.

FAQ pt.1:
http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/01/11/the-ultimate-iphone-frequently-asked-questions/

pt.2:
http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/01/13/ultimate-iphone-faqs-list-part-2/

And check out his video diary titled "Up close with the iPhone". Watch for the end for a surprise celeb appearance :D