So while doing the thermal paste replacement procedure, at some point in the procedure, I killed the Airport, Sound Card (don't even know how..I never went near it), and the Superdrive (altho it has power). I'm pissed... Ah well.

It's gonna cost me a lot to get a new logic board...but hey, my laptop is now 10-15deg cooler.

I'll be going to Wright Digital tomorrow...hopefully he can help me out there.

Just out of curiosity... why would you do it yourself?

Because in 10 years of opening PC's and Laptops, I've never messed one up.

Are you sure you just didnt pinch a couple of cables?

:( that's half not good

Are you sure you just didnt pinch a couple of cables?

Well that's what's gonna be determined tomorrow. The tech is going to look at it for me right away.

The airport only involved me touching one VERY delicate cable at the top of the Logic Board. The sound card I don't remember interacting with at all (which is weird). The superdrive still powers up on boot up (which is also weird).

i bet its a cable or something that pulled or twisted wrong. maybe check to see if something is dirty hampering a circuit or something.

But if its still under Apple care, you had nothing to gain and everything to lose by poking around inside.
oh well, let's hope for the best.

But if its still under Apple care, you had nothing to gain and everything to lose by poking around inside.
oh well, let's hope for the best.

I'm not worried about the Apple Care...I'm woried about the time I will be without my laptop. I will be coordinating the repair to hopefuly get it done over 1 day and get it back. We'll see.


Hopefully it's just the wires. Maybe I crushed one when putting the logic board back in...who knows.

But if its still under Apple care, you had nothing to gain and everything to lose by poking around inside.
oh well, let's hope for the best.
Didn't he void his warranty by doing that?

If it makes you feel any better:
Within 15 minutes of getting my brand new BTO DP G5 2.3 into my house, I had it apart, the cooling system re-jigged, and 4 more hard drives in a custom copper bracket stuffed inside it.
Luckily I didn't screw anything up, but if I had, there would have been no question of warranty coverage - the changes were pretty obvious - carved and drilled the stock plastic parts, re-shaped the fan enclosures, etc.

While my G4 tower was still under warranty, my friend and I overclocked it. That didn't work, so we reset it. By luck, it worked again, despite the scratched up logic board. The computer wasn't fried, but the warranty sure was!

Sometimes the risk is worth it.

So my dad, the electrical engineer, tends to believe that its a power issue or short or ground or activated overcurrent protection circuit...I guess its phesable seeing as the PSU had to be disconnected for the logic board to be pulled.

Didn't he void his warranty by doing that?
He meant, if it was still under warranty, why didn't I get Apple Service to do it for me. It's my only computer. I couldn't be without it.

Obviously you can be without it. Man oh man what a shame, I got that sinking feeling in my gut just reading your post.

Wow, that sucks man. I've been afraid of that happening every time I open up a laptop. My iBook G4 HD replacement had a few tense moments last year.

Obviously you can be without it. Man oh man what a shame, I got that sinking feeling in my gut just reading your post.

I'm on it right now via RJ45...tomorrow it's gonna be looked at right when I bring it in.

IRC, an Apple Authorized Sales and Service Provider will not repair your Apple unit as you have voided the warranty. If you take it to an Apple Authorized Sales and Service provider they will simply notify Apple about what has been done to the unit and your serial number will be blacklisted. Having 10 years of experience opening PC’s does not mean you have experience with Apple computers hardware. They are completely different animals, and what you don't know is that Apple and their certified technicians such as my self can tell if the user have been pissing around inside.
To everyone I would strongly suggest that if you have a problem with your unit that you take it to an authorized sales and service provider or you contact Apple Computer asap.

On a brighter note I do wish you luck!

Buddy I know my warranty is void. I have about $1000CASH on hand for this repair.

And I know you guys can tell..heck, I can tell I've been in there. Once the casing is open, it never seals back as well. Also, the tape on the cables has been moved around...also, the thermal paste has been redone, also, my hard drive was upgraded.

Having 10 years of experience opening PC’s does not mean you have experience with Apple computers hardware. They are completely different animals, and what you don't know is that Apple and their certified technicians such as my self can tell if the user have been pissing around inside.
To everyone I would strongly suggest that if you have a problem with your unit that you take it to an authorized sales and service provider or you contact Apple Computer asap.


Nonsense. From my experience, "Apple certified" techs cause as much harm as good, if they even put the thing together again correctly.

My advice would be to take it apart again, putting it back together again piece by piece, booting up when possible, fiddling with this and that if need be. At this point you have nothing to lose. You may have simply forgot to plug in a cable, etc. Don't go spend too much on a new mobo before you play around a bit!

Nonsense. From my experience, "Apple certified" techs cause as much harm as good, if they even put the thing together again correctly.

My advice would be to take it apart again, putting it back together again piece by piece, booting up when possible, fiddling with this and that if need be. At this point you have nothing to lose. You may have simply forgot to plug in a cable, etc. Don't go spend too much on a new mobo before you play around a bit!

Well then why didn't you report it to Apple? Here were I am we ensure that every machine that comes in comes out in proper working order. You would be amazed how many systems I have seen come in that are missing screws, or certain cables because they took it to another service provider or some joe blows PC shop that didn't know what the hell they were doing. lol. I however do-not agree with your logic that the user should go inside and fiddle with it. Thats the stupidest thing I have ever heard.

Buddy I know my warranty is void. I have about $1000CASH on hand for this repair.

And I know you guys can tell..heck, I can tell I've been in there. Once the casing is open, it never seals back as well. Also, the tape on the cables has been moved around...also, the thermal paste has been redone, also, my hard drive was upgraded.

IRC I am not trying to be rude, its just I was just shocked to hear that one would want to carry on such a procedure with the unit. O well I guess we are all just a bit curious :)

there is no way I would ever attempt that....but what is a "thermal paste replacement procedure"


thanks

Barry

Nonsense. From my experience, "Apple certified" techs cause as much harm as good, if they even put the thing together again correctly.

My advice would be to take it apart again, putting it back together again piece by piece, booting up when possible, fiddling with this and that if need be. At this point you have nothing to lose. You may have simply forgot to plug in a cable, etc. Don't go spend too much on a new mobo before you play around a bit!
Ive seen the same thing. When my rev A iMac G5 came back from motherboard replacement from westworld calgary they put it together wrong and there was a slight bulge in the case under the LCD. I didnt even notice for a week or two until I noticed how hot the unit was getting. The LCD was like a car radiator! When I noticed the problem I completely dismantled it trying to figure out what was pushing up on the case. Turns out the power supply is flush mounted on two metal rods and the issue was that it needed to be "jiggled" to settle down completely on the rods. So the power supply was elevated by about 3mm which pushed on plastic stansions on the inside of the front casing which caused the bulge which, in turn, caused some of the cooling ducts to be misaligned. This, of course, destroyed the carefully laid out airflow of the unit.

I was lucky that I fixed it before there was any damage to the unit.

I have to agree with a few posts as well - regarding some poor Apple care service.

I brought my iBook G4 to get the screen replaced because it had a few large white bright spots. When I got it back the screen had been fixed, but it appears that they didn't put it back together correctly. There was a bulge at the top where the hinge is, and the seam where the inside of the case meets the outside isn't flush, and its always popping in and out of place.

Not much that I could do other than say I was unhappy with the service in the Apple care email follow up they send.

Laptop is fixed...$60+tax later. There is a microscopic cable underneath the airport and sound card near the light sensor that some how got disconnected...this was causing the problem. Everythign is fixed and I'm 15degrees cooler!

Thanks very much to Brennan and Jim at Wright Digital.

hahaha

still warranty is void for future issues.... or can you buy a new APP for a new warranty?

It was technically void when I did the procedure, not because the cable came loose...You know my turnaround on technology anyways.

IRC, an Apple Authorized Sales and Service Provider will not repair your Apple unit as you have voided the warranty. If you take it to an Apple Authorized Sales and Service provider they will simply notify Apple about what has been done to the unit and your serial number will be blacklisted. Having 10 years of experience opening PC’s does not mean you have experience with Apple computers hardware. They are completely different animals, and what you don't know is that Apple and their certified technicians such as my self can tell if the user have been pissing around inside.
To everyone I would strongly suggest that if you have a problem with your unit that you take it to an authorized sales and service provider or you contact Apple Computer asap.
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At the risk of inviting a firestorm, I would point out just the opposite, sometimes, esp. if you've bought Applecare, a third party Apple certified repair shop will bail you out under warranty depending on how well they know you, what the problem is etc. etc. I'm not going to say anymore about who might work this way so don't ask but I do know that it happens. This sometimes even happens with damage due to drops/spills etc. The most iportant thing in such situations is to never, ever, call Apple directly to reprot the problem before you go to your local shop. [/prepares to typical Dudley-do-right-ehmac-onslaught].

Just an FYI: When smaller Macs are taken apart, such as the iBook/MacBook(+Pro)/PowerBook, you're better off blaming the Apple engineers and designers who designed the unit versus the Apple technician who you claim didn't put it back together properly. No matter how hard you try - and I know this for a fact - some parts of some Apple computers do NOT go back together the same way like at the factory. It just isn't possible, and unfortunately, some of these imperfections are more largerly noticable than others - especially iBook and iMac iSight display assemblies. If Apple actually made better use of screws in more important areas versus using abrasives and cheap tape, then maybe they'd all go back together the same.

Just an FYI: When smaller Macs are taken apart, such as the iBook/MacBook(+Pro)/PowerBook, you're better off blaming the Apple engineers and designers who designed the unit versus the Apple technician who you claim didn't put it back together properly. No matter how hard you try - and I know this for a fact - some parts of some Apple computers do NOT go back together the same way like at the factory. It just isn't possible, and unfortunately, some of these imperfections are more largerly noticable than others - especially iBook and iMac iSight display assemblies. If Apple actually made better use of screws in more important areas versus using abrasives and cheap tape, then maybe they'd all go back together the same.

Exactly. I can't believe how much orange tape is used in the case to keep cables out of the way. Also, the screw clips on the front of the casing...they never close back the same.

Congrats, on the cheap fix. The way my mind works I would now have about a $1000 dollars to blow on something. That's why I never have the money I should.

Congrats, on the cheap fix. The way my mind works I would now have about a $1000 dollars to blow on something. That's why I never have the money I should.

I now have the $1000 that I was using towards my enrollment deposit next week.

Enrollment deposit's $450...