The entire province is under a severe winter storm warning with high winds, cold temps and lots of snow. Travel is not recommended on any highway tomorrow. Not much yet on the radar, but it is expected to hit around 4:00 a.m. local time.

Woke up to a bit of overnight snow and sleet, but nothing that needs to be shoveled. I would not want to be driving in AB today from what Sinc was describing.

-10 and calm this morning as we await the big winter storm system's arrival. A high of only -2 today.

You can see the system now, poised to strike our area within the hour:

Sinc, it's the blowing snow that is dangerous. Drive carefully, mon ami.

Well, the snow has just begun and the wind is picking up. RCMP are advising people not to travel Alberta highways today.

My wife told me of a trip that she tried to make from Calgary to Edmonton, which usually took 3-4 hours, and it took her 10 hours due to blowing snow on the highway. :(

Sinc, that is a wise call on the part of the RCMP.

sitting at -2 this morning, no wind, but there is a weather warning in place..... I will have to hurry with my (outdoor) chores for sure... the indoor ones will not get up and do themselves... unfortunately.... :(

Rather pleasant here this morning. moderate west wind last night brought the temp up to -7°C. So far blue skies, some puffy clouds and light winds. Will get my walk in before things get nasty this afternoon.

Just got the lastest weather forecast for Sunday here in St.John's -- 15-30cm of snow. Winter begins here as well. :(

Just got the lastest weather forecast for Sunday here in St.John's -- 15-30cm of snow. Winter begins here as well. :(

I suppose it was inevitable, and I am glad it held off as long as it did.... ;)

My neighbour is leaving for Hawaii on the 9th... hope she will be able to get to the airport .... if the predictions are correct, things may be delayed.... :yikes:

I suppose it was inevitable, and I am glad it held off as long as it did.... ;)

My neighbour is leaving for Hawaii on the 9th... hope she will be able to get to the airport .... if the predictions are correct, things may be delayed.... :yikes:

Yes, and with the cold weather coming in this will not melt, thus forming the base of our snow this winter. Thus, what comes down on Sunday will start to melt in May/June. We shall see.

It has now been snowing steadily for six straight hours. If the forecast is correct, we only have 18 more hours of this to go. Lots of snow, that's for sure.

It has now been snowing steadily for six straight hours. If the forecast is correct, we only have 18 more hours of this to go. Lots of snow, that's for sure.


That is what is forecasted for us on Sunday. Our only hope is a freak mid-Dec. rainstorm to wash it all away. Doubt it, but there is always hope for a green Christmas. We shall see.

It has now been snowing steadily for six straight hours. If the forecast is correct, we only have 18 more hours of this to go. Lots of snow, that's for sure.

Well we have just started to get snow, big fat flakes, if the old saying holds true,( big snow, little snow... little snow, big snow) then it will quit soon, unless it turns to 'small snow.... then we will get it piling up at the door... for awhile....
Depends what you are sending down this way Don....;)

It's all little snow flakes at this end. ;)

And lots of 'em too.

spoke too soon,:yikes: the north wind has arrived and the blizzard is in full assult:eek:

The wind is just swirling everything in circles.... and making a howling noise, the dogs want out ... I doubt it will be for long, quick puddles and in me-thinks :lmao:

spoke too soon,:yikes: the north wind has arrived and the blizzard is in full assult:eek:

The wind is just swirling everything in circles.... and making a howling noise, the dogs want out ... I doubt it will be for long, quick puddles and in me-thinks :lmao:

Actually, my dogs like the snow, but hate rain/drizzle/fog. Of course, when you are confronted by a 3-foot high snow drift, and you are only about 8 inches off of the ground, inside is a better place to be.

This is a massive system as it take two radar stations to cover it all:

Well... down here in Mexico people are *literally* dying from the cold (http://www.jornada.unam.mx/ultimas/2009/12/02/reportan-primera-muerte-por-frio-este-ano-en-zacatecas).

Me? Well, this Canadian is at the moment wrapped up in a blanket with two hot water bottles warming various parts of the body. A tiny space heater gives not much more than psychological comfort.

It may be sub-zero back home in Nova Scotia, but at least you have insulation, central heating and airtight windows....

Well... down here in Mexico people are *literally* dying from the cold (http://www.jornada.unam.mx/ultimas/2009/12/02/reportan-primera-muerte-por-frio-este-ano-en-zacatecas).

Me? Well, this Canadian is at the moment wrapped up in a blanket with two hot water bottles warming various parts of the body. A tiny space heater gives not much more than psychological comfort.

It may be sub-zero back home in Nova Scotia, but at least you have insulation, central heating and airtight windows....

Hang in there, mi amigo.

Halifax Metro and Halifax County West
4:05 PM AST Friday 04 December 2009
Winter storm watch for
Halifax Metro and Halifax County West issued

Persons in or near this area should be on the lookout for adverse weather conditions and take necessary safety precautions. Watch for updated statements.

Hang in there, mi amigo.

Halifax Metro and Halifax County West
4:05 PM AST Friday 04 December 2009
Winter storm watch for
Halifax Metro and Halifax County West issued

Persons in or near this area should be on the lookout for adverse weather conditions and take necessary safety precautions. Watch for updated statements.

I just saw the same "watch" for Kings County... I guess I better get those Christmas lights out before the ground is covered.

Cheers,

lyonsnet, Wolfville is where my wife and I would like to someday retire. How much snow do you normally get in a year?

lyonsnet, Wolfville is where my wife and I would like to someday retire. How much snow do you normally get in a year?

Not nearly as much as St. John's :)
My wife is from Grand Falls-Windsor, and says the snow fall here doesn't compare to NL.

We actually just moved back here this fall, after spending the past 10 years in Toronto, so I'll have to get back to you later this winter. Growing up here though, previous to moving to Ontario, the Annapolis Valley snow fall varies year to year, but you can count on the ground being covered from the end of Dec until well into March, and even April.

I will confirm though, Wolfville is a wonderful place to retire. I'm not retired, but my parents moved to Wolfville a year ago, and love it, love it!

Cheers,

lyonsnet, Wolfville is where my wife and I would like to someday retire. How much snow do you normally get in a year?

Annapolis Valley, Nova Scotia Travel and Tourism Information - Home (http://www.valleytourism.ca/index.php)

there is a lot of info here, perhaps this helps, and the church shown here is in Grande Pre I believe, id was the first settlement in Canada..... long before Champlain and those other guys hit the road!...:lmao:

We were in Wolfville in early Sept. and someone told us that they get about 4 feet of snow in a winter. We can get that in a week here in St.John's, so that seemed like a bit low average. Still, let us know how your winter shapes up there, lyonsnet. Merci, mon ami. Paix.

Grand Falls-Windsor does not get as much snow as St.John's, but is much colder. My wife is from Calgary, where it is much, much colder than St.John's, but with far less snow.

Annapolis Valley, Nova Scotia Travel and Tourism Information - Home (http://www.valleytourism.ca/index.php)

there is a lot of info here, perhaps this helps, and the church shown here is in Grande Pre I believe, id was the first settlement in Canada..... long before Champlain and those other guys hit the road!...:lmao:

Thanks, macdoodle. Settlements here in NL predate GrandPre, but that is a beautiful region of NS.

I know there are many that pre-date NS , but remember that Newfoundland was not part of Canada until 1949 :(

there are many incredible churches made of wood, in Digby on the North shore.... they are also hundreds of years old....

Tonight at 5:10 pm

big messy storm, still blowing about.... and not too much of a change by the look of it....:eek:

I know there are many that pre-date NS , but remember that Newfoundland was not part of Canada until 1949 :(

there are many incredible churches made of wood, in Digby on the North shore.... they are also hundreds of years old....

A valid point, macdoodle. We hope to go back to the Annapolis Valley again next summer for a bit more time to just wander about and see the region.

Tonight at 5:10 pm

big messy storm, still blowing about.... and not too much of a change by the look of it....:eek:


Guess your snow won't be melting with those frigid temps.

Guess your snow won't be melting with those frigid temps.

Looks like nothing will melt again.... EVER!!!!:eek:

Our 'dinner' was cancelled tonight, you cannot even see across the road !

Good thing it started snowing before the food went in the oven, we would all be collecting 'frozen dinners' tomorrow!! :lmao:

Looks like nothing will melt again.... EVER!!!!:eek:

Our 'dinner' was cancelled tonight, you cannot even see across the road !

Good thing it started snowing before the food went in the oven, we would all be collecting 'frozen dinners' tomorrow!! :lmao:

Too bad, macdoodle. Still, better safe than sorry.

Not bad here in the Raven's Nest. An inch or two of snow starting around dinner time. Almost no wind, keeping my fingers crossed as wind warnings are up. So far about 10-15 degrees warmer than Tuesday and Wednesday.

Given the pounding the rest of AB is taking I have no complaints.

Warnings from Environment Canada

St. John's and vicinity
5:15 AM NST Saturday 05 December 2009
Snowfall warning for
St. John's and vicinity issued

Snowfall accumulations between 20 and 30 centimeters expected on Sunday.

High winds whipped the newly fallen snow all night long and currently -9. More snow is in the forecast for today with the temperature steadily dropping to -17 by mid afternoon. Nighttime lows of near -30 by Monday.

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Looking at lows to -10 later in the week... :(

BRRRRRR GGG--ooo--ddd m-m-orn-ing ! (i think...)

the snow is piled up at the door despite my shoveling a couple of times last night. last at 11pm. the snow has stopped but the wind has not.... :ptptptptp and the severe weather warning hasn't left my widget....

I have no idea how much snow there really is as the wind has left a few bare spots and the rest has drifted us almost to oblivion....:eek:

I hear on the weather channel that Nfld is going to get some bad weather too, up to 30 cm. and that system will start today... :ptptptptp

20 days until Christmas.... I may just forego the invites and cook my own and stay safe and warm in my own kitchen.... (well, that's how I feel today...:D)

bundle up, find your gloves and mukluks ( i can only find one ... the other has to be close by:confused:
grab that shovel or some kids down the block... it's going to be a long day!

Good Luck and may the (warm) sun gods shine upon us all... ;)

"I hear on the weather channel that Nfld is going to get some bad weather too, up to 30 cm. and that system will start today... " Sadly, all too true. We are getting the first flakes just now, but it is a light dusting. Tonight, the snow will start ............ and keep falling until this time on Monday. This is where the 35+cm of snow will come. Luckily, the winds will only be gusting at 60km/h, so with very wet snow there won't be the monster drifts of 3-5 meters that might come with 35+cm of snow. We shall see.

I am in the area that is getting 40cm ......... and all within 24 hours. This is called a "snow bomb" when a massive amound of snow is just dumped upon an area is a relatively short span of time. The 100km/h winds are going to cause major problems re drifting. We shall see.

Warnings
St. John's and vicinity
5:18 AM NST Sunday 06 December 2009
Winter storm warning for St. John's and vicinity
changed from Snowfall warning

Snowfall accumulations between 15 and 40 centimetres and northerly winds gusting upwards of 100 km/hour are expected today.

-20 here this morning and -17 in the city and with a high of -18 today, we're not moving much. Then it's gonna get cold. When it hits the low -20s in the city, we're in for -30 in the suburbs.

-20 here this morning and -17 in the city and with a high of -18 today, we're not moving much. Then it's gonna get cold. When it hits the low -20s in the city, we're in for -30 in the suburbs.

Man, my teeth hurt just looking at those temps. Is that -30C with the windchill???? :eek:

Starting to snow here in St.John's. :(

Starting to snow here in St.John's. :(


Yeah 30cm of snow for sale. Bargain basement prices....practically giving it away!!! :lmao:

On a cold dark Sunday morning..... winter made her presence known.....beejacon

-15 here, feels like -25 :eek: and snow flurries according to the weather map.... I haven't been out yet,

Marc and Wytwolf, it looks as if you are in for a chilling blast all at once :ptptptptp

Well you did manage to escape at least one month of 'usual winter' (as did we all)
but hardly fair to get it all at once... hard to imagine less than 2 weeks ago I was in a sweater going out .... and some of you were on your decks watching stars....

Yeah 30cm of snow for sale. Bargain basement prices....practically giving it away!!! :lmao:

30cm for sale? Great. That would just leave us with about 10cm of snow and 2-5cm of ice pellets. It's a deal. Where do we deliver this snow? Would like to get it off of the showroom floor before the 100km/h winds hit tonight.

Where in St. John's are you located, wytwolf? I am in the Churchill Park area of St.John's.

Man, my teeth hurt just looking at those temps. Is that -30C with the windchill???? :eek:

No windchill, that would be extra if it comes up. :D

We are looking at 3" of new snow last night and it's still snowing lightly. Some minor drifting as well.

-17°C this AM in SW AB. Supposed to continue dropping until it bottoms out on Tuesday in the -30°s.

Still 0C but the snow is falling at about an inch an hour. It is the wet snow, and it is hard to see 20 feet in front of you because it is getting so thick and swirling about here.

I feel fortunate to live in Toronto at the moment. Haven't seen a single flake of snow since last winter.

-20 here this morning and -17 in the city and with a high of -18 today, we're not moving much. Then it's gonna get cold. When it hits the low -20s in the city, we're in for -30 in the suburbs.

Uuughhh.. We have very similar temps and forecast here too... time to plug in the block heaters..(sigh)...my vehicle made a slow honking howl when first started this morning...and no, there wasn't a goose caught in the engine. :(

-17 right now, with wind chill is at -25XX) light snow, and so I will stir up the mulled cider, (maybe add a bit of wine .... for my 'whine';) and a big snuggy blanket and watch the curling this afternoon.... 1pm here ... for the olympics I think... it is on all week in case you have an interest in it.... (I have never played, but I love the strategy of the game,
I carpet bowl and it is fairly similar, and much warmer!:lmao:

Came in from shoveling #2. It is a losing battle, so I just keep the doors clear and a path to the garage, where my snowblower is ready to go sometime tomorrow morning. I could really use some of that mulled cider. Merci, mon amie.

Came in from shoveling #2. It is a losing battle, so I just keep the doors clear and a path to the garage, where my snowblower is ready to go sometime tomorrow morning. I could really use some of that mulled cider. Merci, mon amie.

You are most welcome.... i just did a path of sorts to the garage also, and a bit on the sidewalk... no one seems to be out, I thought the kids would be around on their toboggans today with all the wonderful high drifts.... I would go but someone has to watch those curlers... :lmao: (and i gave my 'boggan' away a couple of years ago....:(

Snow is done and sun is out. Clear skies will allow the FAM to take hold.

Yeah, I live in Toronto too and I haven't seen a snow yet. Pretty good weather so far. Kinda funny since my mother chose to go on a vacation for better climate, but it's snowing there and not here hahah.

My better half did a big batch of beef stew and a large pot of Split pea soup yesterday. So looks like other than shoveling a path to the woodpile we can just relax and enjoy the rest of the storm.:D

30cm for sale? Great. That would just leave us with about 10cm of snow and 2-5cm of ice pellets. It's a deal. Where do we deliver this snow? Would like to get it off of the showroom floor before the 100km/h winds hit tonight.

Where in St. John's are you located, wytwolf? I am in the Churchill Park area of St.John's.


I'm in Mt. Pearl now, moved last spring but forgot to update the profile. I'm on O'Flaherty near Sobeys.

My better half did a big batch of beef stew and a large pot of Split pea soup yesterday. So looks like other than shoveling a path to the woodpile we can just relax and enjoy the rest of the storm.:D

Yep, know whatcha mean, the wife made a big pot of ham bone and bean soup. Comfort food extreme. Not to mention the propulsion for shovelling tomorrow. beejacon

I'm in Mt. Pearl now, moved last spring but forgot to update the profile. I'm on O'Flaherty near Sobeys.

I know where the Sobeys is in that area. It is really howling here, and we have only had about 15cm so far, but things are picking up now, so we should get to the predicted 40cm. Luckily, your powerlines are underground. I have visions of the ice and snow building up on the lines, or tree limbs, and bringing everything down. We shall see.

Paix, mon ami.

Yep, know whatcha mean, the wife made a big pot of ham bone and bean soup. Comfort food extreme. Not to mention the propulsion for shovelling tomorrow. beejacon

Blasting a path one might say.beejacon

Our snowplows are getting stuck trying to push the snow. It is so wet and so deep, that the plows can only push it so far before it piles up like a giant snowball.

I know where the Sobeys is in that area. It is really howling here, and we have only had about 15cm so far, but things are picking up now, so we should get to the predicted 40cm. Luckily, your powerlines are underground. I have visions of the ice and snow building up on the lines, or tree limbs, and bringing everything down. We shall see.

Paix, mon ami.

LOL It funny that we lost power about 4:30. Only lasted about 5 minutes though.

LOL It funny that we lost power about 4:30. Only lasted about 5 minutes though.

The lights have been flickering here, but I am going out every half hour to knock ice and snow off of the powerlines and phone lines. I hear the plows trying to clear out Churchill Square, but I think that they have given up until the snow and wind stops.

- 20 here at almost 4pm...
not snowing though...

Hope you get those plows unstuck, I know how awful it is with the wet snow... !

- 20 here at almost 4pm...
not snowing though...

Hope you get those plows unstuck, I know how awful it is with the wet snow... !

-2C here with what sounds like freight trains going by my house. The wind is roaring and the drifts are starting to pile up. My neighbor's son is out trying to dig a path out of their driveway and it is up to his waist. All the plows are off of the smaller roads and are trying to keep the central streets open.

Holyrood, Newfoundland and Labrador - Radar Imagery - Environment Canada (http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/radar/index_e.html?id=WTP)

-2C here with what sounds like freight trains going by my house. The wind is roaring and the drifts are starting to pile up. My neighbor's son is out trying to dig a path out of their driveway and it is up to his waist. All the plows are off of the smaller roads and are trying to keep the central streets open.

Holyrood, Newfoundland and Labrador - Radar Imagery - Environment Canada (http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/radar/index_e.html?id=WTP)

Been there, behind a plow from Cornerbrook to Argentia Ferry.... closing the trans Canada behind me.... the Ferry wasn't sailing and there was no room at the inn (by the ferry dock.... police escorted me back into the storm and we found a place... VERY expensive... no wonder they had rooms :rolleyes: ... storm blew up out of nowhere, I was long gone out of Cornerbrook when it came into full gale ... up until then it was a nice light snowy bit of a day,:eek:

Been there, behind a plow from Cornerbrook to Argentia Ferry.... closing the trans Canada behind me.... the Ferry wasn't sailing and there was no room at the inn (by the ferry dock.... police escorted me back into the storm and we found a place... VERY expensive... no wonder they had rooms :rolleyes: ... storm blew up out of nowhere, I was long gone out of Cornerbrook when it came into full gale ... up until then it was a nice light snowy bit of a day,:eek:

Now that would have been a ride to remember, macdoodle. The streets are empty as the storm still rages overhead. We got about 3cm of ice pellets and even a touch of sleet to keep down the drifting a bit, but now it is just blowing fresh snow all over the place. I have been out to shovel 7 times today, and it looks as if I have not been out once for all the good it did. Tomorrow is another day, as Miss Scarlett once said. We shall see.

Now that would have been a ride to remember, macdoodle. The streets are empty as the storm still rages overhead. We got about 3cm of ice pellets and even a touch of sleet to keep down the drifting a bit, but now it is just blowing fresh snow all over the place. I have been out to shovel 7 times today, and it looks as if I have not been out once for all the good it did. Tomorrow is another day, as Miss Scarlett once said. We shall see.

the problem with snow is it always stays ahead of you... I am sending you a little help so you can get over those snow banks!! :lmao:

This thread, normally with short and sweet weather updates and the odd comment is slowly turning into the Shang II. And that is a shame. :(

the problem with snow is it always stays ahead of you... I am sending you a little help so you can get over those snow banks!! :lmao:

Cute, macdoodle. I alway loved pandas.

Cute, macdoodle. I alway loved pandas.

Well back to the weather....
It's cold and dark and -23

-3C but the winds blew around 40cm of snow in stange drifts, some a foot high, others 6 feet high. :(

Just checking the Canadian Farmers' Almanac for Dec.2009. They had us for "Heavy Snow" from Dec.1-3. Well, they were off by a few days, but it is amazing how accurate they are in general.

-3C but the winds blew around 40cm of snow in stange drifts, some a foot high, others 6 feet high. :(

We are sitting at -33 but it says it feels like -43, so there must be a slight wind out there,
This is awful... supposed to go to -19 this afternoon .. I won't be out for awhile yet.... and not far!

We are sitting at -33 but it says it feels like -43, so there must be a slight wind out there,
This is awful... supposed to go to -19 this afternoon .. I won't be out for awhile yet.... and not far!


Leslie, I was frozen outside trying to shovel out at -2 with a -12C windchill. I get a headache just reading those numbers that you folks are experiencing.

-30 here this morning with a 10 km wind making it feel like -35 out there. A high of -20 today.

The FAM has landed!

Leslie, I was frozen outside trying to shovel out at -2 with a -12C windchill. I get a headache just reading those numbers that you folks are experiencing.

Me to ....:lmao: and it is supposed to be in this range for the rest of the week....

Cannot believe a mere couple of weeks ago I was out in a sweater!
I will have to dig out the long-johns for sure, today... they are a staple here if you plan an outing, even if it is just to the garage.... the garbage will have to wait for next weeks pick up.... I am not venturing out today .... :yikes:

-30 here this morning with a 10 km wind making it feel like -35 out there. A high of -20 today.

The FAM has landed!

At least you are warmer than we are....;) usually it is the other way around....

Will have to run water to make sure pipes don't freeze! :eek:

-29°C in the Raven's Nest. Thankfully no wind (so far) and no new snow over night. Predicted high today is -20°C with lows tonight in the -30s.:eek:

-29°C in the Raven's Nest. Thankfully no wind (so far) and no new snow over night. Predicted high today is -20°C with lows tonight in the -30s.:eek:

It is still -33 here and 9km wind, it was 11 earlier....

A friend called from Florida last night asking 'how cold is it there' ... (and he had the nerve to laugh! ) well, I told him I would be bringing in the brass monkey:lmao:

his answer ... :eek: see you in the spring .... :lmao:

I posted a bit too soon. Dipped to -30°C shortly after I posted. Wonder how close to -40° we'll get tonight?

It is still -33 here and 9km wind, it was 11 earlier....

A friend called from Florida last night asking 'how cold is it there' ... (and he had the nerve to laugh! ) well, I told him I would be bringing in the brass monkey:lmao:

his answer ... :eek: see you in the spring .... :lmao:

Next time you talk be sure to ask if he drained the plumbing as it is cold enough to freeze the pipes when his furnace dies.beejacon

Next time you talk be sure to ask if he drained the plumbing as it is cold enough to freeze the pipes when his furnace dies.beejacon

:lmao::lmao: I will be sure to do that.... !

5:30 pm and it is dark and -33C Getting a hot water bottle ready! :eek:

905PM and we have a -12C windchill which makes shoveling the snow a way to stay warm outside.

A bit of a struggle but we made -16°C this afternoon. All ready back down to -31°C.:eek: Thankfully the wind is almost non-existent. Since we have already reached the predicted low something close to -40°C does seem likely.

-30 again here this morning and a high of only -17. That daily high at this time of year is only met for a matter of minutes in mid afternoon as the temperature begins to plunge with the waning sun about 3:30 p.m.

Today - not so bad, -4 with a couple of light flurries here & there.

Tomorrow, according to Environment Canada, winter starts with a bang... :ptptptptp :ptptptptp :ptptptptp

SNOWFALL WARNING IN EFFECT

15 to 30 centimetres of snow expected over these areas Wednesday.

A low pressure system from Colorado is intensifying as it tracks toward the province of Québec. The snow associated with this system will begin Wednesday morning over Southern Québec, giving significant snowfall amounts over several areas.

Moreover, the strong winds that accompany this system will give widespread blowing snow over some areas of Central Québec.

It is 7:12 AM and a warm -38 :eek: still dark out.... up to -18 later..... ???

As has been said earlier, if you blink, you'll miss it....

I am wondering what things I promised to do 'when Hell Freezes over' :lmao:

Either we held at -35°C last night or the weather stations thermometer froze up altogether. Still -35 with glorious predictions of -18°C as a high today.

Either we held at -35°C last night or the weather stations thermometer froze up altogether. Still -35 with glorious predictions of -18°C as a high today.

I am also wondering the same thing... but my old thermometer is 'stuck' at -33, I am waiting for it to finally break.... it is at least 30 years old....
my widget on the other hand assured me it was -37 earlier .... and now a couple of hours later, it is -38.... this isn't the way it's supposed to go :confused:

Now I am colder than ever...:ptptptptp

Better get out more underwear folks, it's gong to get worse:

A dull day here in St.John's, with -1C temps and flurries.

Guess what? we have made the climb to -34

nothing is going anywhere down here.....:ptptptptp

Guess what? we have made the climb to -34

nothing is going anywhere down here.....:ptptptptp

Well, there is my headache again, macdoodle, and I 3 1/2 time zones from you and that bitterly cold weather. I am amazed at the toughness of the folks who live on the prairies re surviving the cold. Bon chance, mon amie.

Going down to -7C and a -13C windchill here in St.John's .................. which is nowhere near the bitterly cold temps out west. Still, for us, this is cold.

We have imminent Storm Warning in Effect now. It goes from Windsor right up to Kirkland Lake with a Snow Warning.

We can't complain too much. Last year we were hammered with a meter on November 15 or so and I think we were well into starting our second meter by now. Right now here in Barrie, there is just trace amounts on the ground.

It is only -3 here in Barrie. Balmy compared to out west. It feels cold because there is a lot of moisture tied up in it.

Apparently we are going to get hot and cold running crud. Snow tonight followed by rain tomorrow.

^^^
Same here.
http://www.theweathernetwork.com/common/images/warnings/logo_environmentcanada_en.gif
A WINTER STORM INTENSIFYING OVER THE SOUTHWESTERN STATES IS MOVING TOWARDS THE UPPER GREAT LAKES. SNOW ASSOCIATED WITH THIS SYSTEM WILL BEGIN LATE THIS AFTERNOON IN SOUTHWESTERN ONTARIO, IN THE EVENING IN TORONTO AND REACH THE NATIONAL CAPITAL REGION JUST BEFORE DAWN ON WEDNESDAY. STRONG EASTERLY WINDS NEAR 60 KM/H WILL ACCOMPANY THE SNOW TONIGHT AND WEDNESDAY SIGNIFICANTLY LOWERING VISIBILITIES IN BLOWING SNOW. PERIODS OF HEAVY SNOW ARE ALSO LIKELY. SNOW AMOUNTS WILL RANGE FROM 10 TO 15 CENTIMETRES WITH 20 CENTIMETRES OR MORE TOWARDS OTTAWA VALLEY. LESSER AMOUNTS ARE LIKELY ALONG THE SHORE OF WESTERN LAKE ONTARIO AS SNOW COULD BE WET. SNOW WILL END OR CHANGE TO RAIN FROM WEST TO EAST THROUGH THE DAY WEDNESDAY. MORE STATEMENTS OR WARNINGS WILL BE ISSUED AS THE STORM NEARS.
Time to curl up in the foetal position and rock slowly while moaning until spring.... ;)

We here in St.John's feel for you folks. It's not just the snow but the winds blowing this snow about that makes things really difficult. Good luck, mes amis.

We here in St.John's feel for you folks. It's not just the snow but the winds blowing this snow about that makes things really difficult. Good luck, mes amis.

Well it is now 2pm, and we have climbed up to -26 :clap: doubt if it will get much warmer today.... friends just an hour away (north) are at -19 i think we are in a weather trough.... :ptptptptp

hope you folks in Ontario are hunkering down for the onslaught! go get the extra milk and bread...now, and a fat soup bone to simmer on the hob!! :D You will need it!!

Well is gotta be a little blow zero in Barrie we only have a cm of snow but I hear a storm is on the way.

we are still at -27 but the wind has a chill bringing it to -37...... and the night is just beginning.... BRRRR!

-3C with a -12C windchill, and a ligh snow falling.

Clear, -20 and headed south fast tonight.

-24 and a high of -14 today, but we're headed for the big freeze come Friday and Saturday with lows of -40. If we get any wind, it will be brutal.

-24 and a high of -14 today, but we're headed for the big freeze come Friday and Saturday with lows of -40. If we get any wind, it will be brutal.

A chilly -6C with a -14C windchill this morning here in St.Johin's. I can't imagine a high of -14C and then a low of -40C. I have experienced a low to mid -30C temp once in Winnipeg and twice in Calgary, but that was only for a short time. I can't imagine having to work outside in those sorts of temps.

As my wife tells me (she who grew up in Calgary, Edmonton, Winnipeg and Regina), "The grow us tough on the prairies."

Stay warm, mon ami.

Big storm's almost here... sigh...

Still dark this morning and from my vantage point I see the window covered in little crystal droplets. Whether they were born as snow or rain is anyone's guess.

Also, the wind. The wind is saying stay inside today, alas the hound dog is saying no.

Winter has returned to Toronto.

Big storm's almost here... sigh...

"Know thyself", Doug, and your capacity to shovel heavy snow. Paix, mon ami.

Still dark this morning and from my vantage point I see the window covered in little crystal droplets. Whether they were born as snow or rain is anyone's guess.

Also, the wind. The wind is saying stay inside today, alas the hound dog is saying no.

Winter has returned to Toronto.

You knew it had to come someday, mrj. Take care and stay warm and safe. Paix, mon ami.

YouTube - Snow In Toronto!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCS06rbL5hI)

You knew it had to come someday, mrj. Take care and stay warm and safe. Paix, mon ami.

YouTube - Snow In Toronto!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCS06rbL5hI)

Very funny Dr.G. Thanks for that! Makes meeting this day slightly easier.

I love Mercer's line:

"and then I blacked out"

His delivery is excellent.

Very funny Dr.G. Thanks for that! Makes meeting this day slightly easier.

I love Mercer's line:

"and then I blacked out"

His delivery is excellent.

Yes, we laughed at that as well when it was first on TV. During the time you had the army called out to help you, snowplow crews from St.John's, actually were flown out to the GTA to help out.

Sadly, tomorrow, we are getting what you are getting now. :(:mad::ptptptptp:-(

Bon chance, mon ami. Paix.

Ugh snow...wet and sloppy and I HAVE to go out early - plus 1 and yuck :(

Much snow in south and eastern Ontario.... Army not taking Toronto calls.. ;)
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Ugh snow...wet and sloppy and I HAVE to go out early - plus 1 and yuck :(


Drive carefully, mon ami. Bon chance.

We've risen to -20 and although I hate to say it, it feels warm out there when I took the dog for his morning constitutional.

We've risen to -20 and although I hate to say it, it feels warm out there when I took the dog for his morning constitutional.

As I said, they grow them tough on the prairies. Of course, it is -33C with a -39C windchill in Regina, so they have to be extra tough.

Here in Burlington its +1, with ice pellets. Well i don't see any pellets falling, but i do see what I'd call a smattering of damp snow out there. Like really thin and almost melting, as its gently raining. I don't have to leave the house till 4pm. So by then it could just be a rainy day and dark already lol!

Anyways my boss is chomping at the bit for a serious snow fall. He really wants to sell all those snow tires we have. Btw I work at the Canadian tire in Milton.

I hope its not foggy on the way to work, when it rains it often gets that way as I approach the escarpment.

Well it is dark and not so cold this AM... -13 right now and going DOWN to -17 later in the day....
Hmmmm... isn't the temp. supposed to rise with the sun :confused:

do you now have a dog Sinc?? you must send in a photo!

Just lovely! -7 going to +1..... so snow will become ice to some degree... it gets better and better - note in image we are now into yellow and red zone (see scale)!
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Foetally rocking... moaning... :rolleyes:

Strong winds, rgray? That is what causes the most problems.

Strong winds, rgray? That is what causes the most problems.

Yup! The wind is starting to pick up - out of the north o'course....

On the plus side, the new weatherstriping I installed in the fall (seems long ago now.. :rolleyes:.) is working very well.

On the minus side there are starting to be drifts across those doors....

Foetally rocking, moaning....

Yup! The wind is starting to pick up - out of the north o'course....

On the plus side, the new weatherstriping I installed in the fall (seems long ago now.. :rolleyes:.) is working very well.

On the minus side there are starting to be drifts across those doors....

Foetally rocking, moaning....

Weatherstripping was a good idea, rgray.

Warnings
City of Toronto
10:39 AM EST Wednesday 09 December 2009
Winter storm warning for
City of Toronto ended


That was quick.

Yup! The wind is starting to pick up - out of the north o'course....

On the plus side, the new weatherstriping I installed in the fall (seems long ago now.. :rolleyes:.) is working very well.

On the minus side there are starting to be drifts across those doors....

Foetally rocking, moaning....

The drifts across the doors are what keep you shoveling every few hours....:(
If it is like the wind and snow drifts we got I cleared the door ad steps four times in the day, and twice at night.... the next morning I still found huge drifts 'keeping me prisoner':ptptptptp

Get out your warmest everything, don't forget the long undies.... they help a lot!

The drifts across the doors are what keep you shoveling every few hours....:(
If it is like the wind and snow drifts we got I cleared the door ad steps four times in the day, and twice at night.... the next morning I still found huge drifts 'keeping me prisoner':ptptptptp

Get out your warmest everything, don't forget the long undies.... they help a lot!

That is exactly the situation here as well. I have to keep the doors clear, and a path for our dogs, and this means having to go out every hour or so.

Weatherstripping was a good idea, rgray.

Yeah! I had done it years ago, but the recent thin snow drifts on the carpet indoors :eek:, although it fascinated my indoor cat colony, was causing a lot of static from the spousal unit.... Now, much to the cat' dismay, the problem is fixed.

Yeah! I had done it years ago, but the recent thin snow drifts on the carpet indoors :eek:, although it fascinated my indoor cat colony, was causing a lot of static from the spousal unit.... Now, much to the cat' dismay, the problem is fixed.

Good thing that you don't have dogs ............. who bring the snow back in with them on their fur.

Good thing that you don't have dogs ............. who bring the snow back in with them on their fur.

Been there, done that for most of my life but no more!

Good thing that you don't have dogs ............. who bring the snow back in with them on their fur.

Reason I keep a huge towel in the porch, it saves a lot of work... they cannot come in until the' rub down' is over.... then we open the door...:lmao:

forgot, the temp is -12 right now... might even get out today...:)

We've clawed our way up a single degree to -19. wow!

-2.5C with a windchill of -11C. I was out on my back deck shoveling off the snow. Interesting how there was a blue-green tint to the snow, which means it came from the northeast ............. off of the ocean. My lips are even a bit salty tasting. So, now I am just about ready for tomorrow's storm. We shall see.

-2.5C with a windchill of -11C. I was out on my back deck shoveling off the snow. Interesting how there was a blue-green tint to the snow, which means it came from the northeast ............. off of the ocean. My lips are even a bit salty tasting. So, now I am just about ready for tomorrow's storm. We shall see.

those nor'easters can be brutal .... blue snow ... you will have a real blue Hanukkah...

Sitting a -12 so we are warmer than Sinc right now.... no wind either...

A beautiful sunset happening right now here in St.John's.

sky is lighting up a bit now, up to -9C it's 1pm and it may warm up a bit more.... !

We are going down to a very cold -10C overnight, with about 5-10cm of fresh snow and ice pellets by noon tomorrow. :(

If this much snow falls, we are also above the point were we were back in 2000 on this date in terms of snowfall ................... and that was the year we have 635cm of snow. :eek:

We are going down to a very cold -10C overnight, with about 5-10cm of fresh snow and ice pellets by noon tomorrow. :(

If this much snow falls, we are also above the point were we were back in 2000 on this date in terms of snowfall ................... and that was the year we have 635cm of snow. :eek:

Yikes! that is a lot.....ice pellets are disastrous to your hips, knees and ankles!! Stay indoors!!

Yikes! that is a lot.....ice pellets are disastrous to your hips, knees and ankles!! Stay indoors!!

Luckily, the temps will be going up to about 0C. So, I shall go out and get the few inches of snow out of the driveway just before the ice pellets hit. If I leave a cm or two of snow, the ice pellets don't stick to the driveway. Then, if I can get that up quickly before the sleet hits, and then the whole mess freezes, all I have to do wait for the temps to get up to the forecasted +4C to melt this layer of sleet.

Of course, I have been told that "The best laid plans of mice and men .........." so on and so on and so on. We shall see.

Summer has returned as it is -15 this morning. Sadly, that is also our high for the day as we await the plunge on the weekend to -40 or so.

Winter has returned here to St.John's, with snow falling ..... and falling ......... and falling. Luckily, I don't have to drive anywhere, so all I have to do is grade inside and shovel outside. :)

Well it is a balmy -11 this morning, and I shall enjoy it.... apparently it will get colder before it warms up again....

Well it is a balmy -11 this morning, and I shall enjoy it.... apparently it will get colder before it warms up again....

Yes it looks like our highs shall almost make it to the normal low reading over the next two days. Will try for extra long walks as the respite is expected to be quite brief.

Still very blustery here in St.John's. About 10+cm have fallen, and the ice pellets are nowhere in sight. We shall see.

2C with a light freezing drizzle falling. Hopefully, it shall not coat up the power and phone lines too much, as happens with our freezing rain. We shall see.

Brrrrrrr -9 - and messy.....:(

We're headed down, down, down.

With the city forecast for -35, we're sure to hit -40 out here.

-18 and falling all day long into the deep freeze. We're forecast to be -40 the next few nights.

3C, but I had to spend the morning shoveling from the front of the driveway. When that hip-deep mound freezes, it will take a tank to get out of the driveway. Too many big ice chunks for the snowblower, so I had to do it by hand. Still, it is good exercise, and the temps are mild with no wind ............. and even a little bit of sun and blue sky to make matters better.

Strange weather this morning. First, the sun is shining ............... 15 minutes later, there is a snow squall that prevents you from seeing more than 20 feet ahead of you .............. and then the sun comes out again. Strange.

-8 here, down to -17 ..the sky is fairly blue.... we have had less chinooks this year than ever before... I think the weather is 'acting up' all over the place..... :ptptptptp

-8 here, down to -17 ..the sky is fairly blue.... we have had less chinooks this year than ever before... I think the weather is 'acting up' all over the place..... :ptptptptp

When my wife was growing up in Calgary, she said that she lived for the Chinooks each winter ............ and missed them when they moved to Edmonton.

When my wife was growing up in Calgary, she said that she lived for the Chinooks each winter ............ and missed them when they moved to Edmonton.

I am south of calgary, we would have normally had 3 or 4 by now.... just one appeared so far... (unless I missed one somewhere) we get more than they do north of us...

We are -9°C on our way to a high of -15°C. Predictions showing the same drops as Sincs but bottoming out around -27°C and about a day later.

I am south of calgary, we would have normally had 3 or 4 by now.... just one appeared so far... (unless I missed one somewhere) we get more than they do north of us...

Yes I do wonder where that marvelously warm winter the GW alarmists promised us. Guess it was an illusion caused by data manipulation.beejacon

The -35.7°C earlier this week was a record low for this area with the caveat that the pre 1995 data was shredded for some reason.

Yes I do wonder where that marvelously warm winter the GW alarmists promised us. Guess it was an illusion caused by data manipulation.beejacon

The -35.7°C earlier this week was a record low for this area with the caveat that the pre 1995 data was shredded for some reason.

I know I'm living it, but it seems colder somehow when you write it out.... :D

1C and sunshine ............. with a couple of centimeters of hail having fallen since noon.

We've dropped another 6 degrees since 5:00 a.m., with bright sun and clear skies. Now at -24 and continuing to fall.

We've dropped another 6 degrees since 5:00 a.m., with bright sun and clear skies. Now at -24 and continuing to fall.

We are now down to -7 and -17 is the drop du jour .... you are very much colder than we are today.... sun is out here too. Did you get more snow lately??

1C and sunshine ............. with a couple of centimeters of hail having fallen since noon.

Nice you have the sun, sadly it has no real warmth, was the hail large?
We had a terrible hailstorm this summer... they come in around July.... big and noisy for 20 min then poof! gone....

Nice you have the sun, sadly it has no real warmth, was the hail large?
We had a terrible hailstorm this summer... they come in around July.... big and noisy for 20 min then poof! gone....

No more sun, just snow squalls and -1C temps. This is from Environment Canada --

Warnings
St. John's and vicinity
11:59 AM NST Friday 11 December 2009
Snow squall warning for
St. John's and vicinity issued

Snow squalls with the potential to give near zero visibilities and locally upwards of 15 centimetres of snow in a short period of time can be expected today and into Saturday.

-25 as we continue our slow but steady drop. The FAM has arrived.

Sitting in the living room watching the first snowfall of the season. After four hours, there's less than 1 cm, but I'll take it. No doubt, tens of thousands of petrified Lower Mainlanders will be begging to leave work early today to better their chances of surviving the "blizzard."

Sitting in the living room watching the first snowfall of the season. After four hours, there's less than 1 cm, but I'll take it. No doubt, tens of thousands of petrified Lower Mainlanders will be begging to leave work early today to better their chances of surviving the "blizzard."

:lmao:

Right now we are getting a couple of centimeters every half hour or so ........... and then the snow squalls stop.

:lmao:

Right now we are getting a couple of centimeters every half hour or so ........... and then the snow squalls stop.seems like it`s always snowing the last few days doesn`t it!

Sitting in the living room watching the first snowfall of the season. After four hours, there's less than 1 cm, but I'll take it. No doubt, tens of thousands of petrified Lower Mainlanders will be begging to leave work early today to better their chances of surviving the "blizzard."

:lmao::lmao::clap:


Having lived on the lower mainland I know just what you mean.... we easterners haven't figured out the panic attack! (anyplace east Kamloops that is! :lmao: )

It (still <1 cm) hasn't melted yet, and it's dark out now, so I like my chances of finding a nice Christmas tree tomorrow morning, since most people will be heeding the "stay at home if possible" warning that is no doubt imminent.

It (still <1 cm) hasn't melted yet, and it's dark out now, so I like my chances of finding a nice Christmas tree tomorrow morning, since most people will be heeding the "stay at home if possible" warning that is no doubt imminent.

That will give you free reign... do you cut your own?

we are at -12 and headed back into the deep freeze..... for the weekend....

-3C with a -12C windchill .............. a cold night, with snow squalls every half hour or so.

About 15cm of snow fell overnight, with more falling now. Still, it is out of the west, so that means it is a colder and dryer snow than that off of the Atlantic. Very blustery, with 80km/h winds and -2C. A great day to stay indoors by a woodstove. :)

-17 wind chill bring it to -27.... with snow flurries expected....:ptptptptp

If we were plastic wrapped we would know how a roast of beef feels when we put it in the freezer!! :D Getting tired of the cold and it isn't Jan or Feb yet!!

-17 wind chill bring it to -27.... with snow flurries expected....:ptptptptp

If we were plastic wrapped we would know how a roast of beef feels when we put it in the freezer!! :D Getting tired of the cold and it isn't Jan or Feb yet!!

Feel the same way but with the snow, macdoodle. Last Saturday, we had no snow on the ground. Since then, over 75cm have fallen on St.John's .......... and it's still snowing. This will assure us of a White Christmas ............... and possibly a white Canada Day. We shall see.

Feel the same way but with the snow, macdoodle. Last Saturday, we had no snow on the ground. Since then, over 75cm have fallen on St.John's .......... and it's still snowing. This will assure us of a White Christmas ............... and possibly a white Canada Day. We shall see.


At least you will have good biceps, we will shiver our way to thin!!! :lmao:

'Tis -35 here, -31 in the city. With lows in the city of -36 tonight, we will easily drop to -40 or lower.

'Tis -35 here, -31 in the city. With lows in the city of -36 tonight, we will easily drop to -40 or lower.

Yikes!:eek:

And it's on its way down here. Wind reversed about 2 in the morning. Right now we are -15°C with a high of -25°C predicted.:ptptptptp They've pushed the lows over the next couple of days into the -30s.

'Tis -35 here, -31 in the city. With lows in the city of -36 tonight, we will easily drop to -40 or lower.

WOAH! that is cold .....
we are at -17 winds up a bit, snowing and blowing a bit.... dropping to -28 by tomorrow morning ....wind chill will be a factor for the actual cold for sure....

At least you will have good biceps, we will shiver our way to thin!!! :lmao:

My son has been working out in the gym since last spring, doing a bit of weight training and cardio. I have been shoveling since last week. He challenged me to an arm wrestle. My wife was the judge. While he is stronger than last year, we stayed at midpoing until he just could not hold off my push any longer. I told him that spending hours shoveling was better at strengthening certain muscles than intense work in the gym a few times a week.

Not sure if I could shovel ................ or even walk outside in the sorts of bitterly cold temps you folks are experiencing.

My brother e-mailed us all earlier today to advise us that in Saskatoon it is -51F and falling ... my sister responded from Texas that they are expected to hit 51+ today ...

My brother e-mailed us all earlier today to advise us that in Saskatoon it is -51F and falling ... my sister responded from Texas that they are expected to hit 51+ today ...

I can see Texas at 51F, but I can't imagine what -51F is like. How do people even survive in those temps if they have to be outside? :eek:

Nearly noon and we've warmed up a single degree to -34 in bright sunlight. With it being this clear, the chances we will dip below -40 tonight are pretty good.

Sun is setting here in St. John's as we sit at -1C, going down to -5C overnight.

4:30 or so and we are now at -25 going down to -27 later..... wind chill -37 (Extra sweater time!!)

4:30 or so and we are now at -25 going down to -27 later..... wind chill -37 (Extra sweater time!!)

Seems to me wind chill is irrelevant as long as you don't open the door.:D

'Bout the same here.

Seems to me wind chill is irrelevant as long as you don't open the door.:D

'Bout the same here.

I agree, but i do have to open the door and go out too!! (at least 3 times a day at least...:lmao:

(Any out or in's tomorrow will have to be done or wait until the curling is over:lmao::lmao:)

-3C with a -13C windchill here in St.John's.

A clear and very cold -35 and headed down. Thank goodness there is no wind or it would be brutal.

We still sit at -35 this morning, thankfully without wind. With a high of only -30 today, any wind will make it brutal out there.

-5C with a windchill of -15C is very cold for mid-December here in St.John's.

Temp has been stuck at -26°C since nine last night. Steam coming from the furnace vents is pretty much horizontal, not a welcome sight.:ptptptptp

Up to -28C dead air outside, (this is a good thing) but 10 min. out there and your fingers and toes begin to protest, :eek:

Not hard to imagine what Sinc is having to deal with...and if a wind comes up anywhere in the vicinity it will be brutal for sure.... :ptptptptp

We've dropped another degree to -36 in bright sunshine. (Complete with huge sundogs.)

-4C with a -13C windchill ............ and no "mock sun" in sight anywhere ............. just constant light snow flurries.

I look out the back door to see it is snowing :(.
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Nice view, rgray.

Going down to -8C tonight which is very cold for us in mid-Dec.

I look out the other back door and it is snowing there too!!!
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Another nice view, rgray. At least you don't have to shovel back there.

Alberta shivers amid record lows

Last Updated: Sunday, December 13, 2009

CBC News

Edmonton has established a record it would probably rather forget.

The Alberta capital recorded the lowest temperature in North America overnight Saturday — and set a record as the lowest temperature on a Dec. 13 in the city's history — as the current deep freeze established records across the province.

"Edmonton International Airport was the coldest place in Canada," Peter Spyker, a meteorologist with Environment Canada, said Sunday. "It was –46.1 [C] without the wind chill. I believe at one point it got to –58 with the wind chill."

The previous record for Dec. 13 was –36.1 C, set in 2008.

Alberta shivers amid record lows

Last Updated: Sunday, December 13, 2009

CBC News

Edmonton has established a record it would probably rather forget.

The Alberta capital recorded the lowest temperature in North America overnight Saturday — and set a record as the lowest temperature on a Dec. 13 in the city's history — as the current deep freeze established records across the province.

"Edmonton International Airport was the coldest place in Canada," Peter Spyker, a meteorologist with Environment Canada, said Sunday. "It was –46.1 [C] without the wind chill. I believe at one point it got to –58 with the wind chill."

The previous record for Dec. 13 was –36.1 C, set in 2008.

-26 doesn't look so bad right now... it snowed most of the day, but not heavily....going down to -28 later.... up tomorrow so I hear... ;)

" ... "Edmonton International Airport was the coldest place in Canada," Peter Spyker, a meteorologist with Environment Canada, said Sunday. "It was –46.1 [C] without the wind chill. I believe at one point it got to –58 with the wind chill." ..."

SINC got it right (or is that a quote directly from the CBC website?). In any case, compare that to the Toronto Sun:

" ... The Edmonton International Airport recorded a low of -46.1C, with the mercury dropping to -58.4C with the windchill, outfreezing even the Arctic. Only Dzalinda, Siberia, appeared to be colder, with a weather station there recording temperatures of -48C ..."

The Sun got it wrong. Apparently no news, no matter how bad, is exempt from the Sun's corporate dictum to make it appear worse than it is.

Wind Chills are not temperatures but instead rates of cooling, for warm bodies only, down to the air temperature. Environment Canada and the NOAA NWS (which share the same method of calculating Wind Chill) are adamant about it ... you must never follow a Wind Chill rating with a temperature indicator; no "C" or "F" should follow. A "wind chill of minus forty" should be written "-40" not "-40C".

In other words, regardless of the Wind Chill value in Edmonton yesterday, nothing in the city could possibly cool below -46C there (or whatever the air temperature was; it probably would be colder, for example, at the bank of the North Saskatchewan river than at the Airport, because cold air is dense and sinks into depressions).

Edmonton was -46C yesterday with a Wind Chill of -58.4. No "C" on the Wind Chill rating, as SINC properly reported and the Toronto Sun failed to do.

There was more than one city in Russia with temperatures overnight of less than -46C over the weekend, regardless of the Sun's assertions.

Different weather services differ in the temperatures they report; I used WeatherUnderground (because it had all three cities; others did not) for the following:

Dzalinda, Siberia (the Sun's example) reached -51C Sunday night with a daytime high of -49C; on Saturday it stayed steady at -50C all day and night.

Verkhoyansk, which has the lowest average temperatures of any city in Russia, reported -46C/-42C for Sunday and -46C/-43C Saturday. There are a number of Russian cities with similar cold temperatures reported; I made no attempt to find the "coldest".

They say Edmonton had a low of -46C and a high of -33C Sunday, and -44C/-32C Saturday.

Saskatoon temperatures over the weekend ranged from -37C to -28C, with a severe Wind Chill warning (wind speed up to 37 KmH). I was out every day, and loving it.

Did everyone know that the Wind Chill values are calculated differently this winter than before? The new values generate more severe Wind Chill ratings when the wind speed is less than 10 KmH; this winter even the calmest days will have a lower Wind Chill rating than in the past.

GG, I can take no credit for being correct, I simply quoted the CBC radio news report.

As for today and tomorrow at least, we are now in for even colder weather given the wind chill warnings issued here:

Presently sitting at -34 and wind chill makes it -47..... I thought it was supposed to be warmer... (maybe tomorrow!)

Those Edmonton temps were at the Airport. The station the Gore types use in their data came it at a relatively balmy -36°C. Just shows how cherry picking can skew your data.

Down further South we dropped to -31°C but thankfully the wind dropped as well. Today is supposed to continue very cold. The weather gurus are dangling that warming carrot as close as tomorrow. Believe it when I see it.

Those Edmonton temps were at the Airport. The station the Gore types use in their data came it at a relatively balmy -36°C. Just shows how cherry picking can skew your data.

Down further South we dropped to -31°C but thankfully the wind dropped as well. Today is supposed to continue very cold. The weather gurus are dangling that warming carrot as close as tomorrow. Believe it when I see it.

Well seeing as we are at -32 now and the chill has it at -44 I have to say it will have to be a mighty warm carrot!!! :lmao::lmao:

Supposed to be up to -10 tomorrow, and as high as -21 today.... as you say, seeing is believing... ;)

We are up to a -1C, and my wife, who was born in raised in both Calgary and Edmonton, feels that it is cold outside. It is a damp -1C, which seems to chill her more than a -30C dry windchill in AB. Go figure???

We are up to a -1C, and my wife, who was born in raised in both Calgary and Edmonton, feels that it is cold outside. It is a damp -1C, which seems to chill her more than a -30C dry windchill in AB. Go figure???

Absolutely, the damp does make you feel colder, the plus to this is you know you're cold,
in a dry cold you don't feel it the same way, so you can have frozen parts and not know it until it is too late... in the dry cold you have to know in your mind how cold it is, and dress appropriately, in the damp, you body lets you know pretty fast that you are cold....

A friend of ours long ago, as a teen, went out for about 20 min to meet a friend, the tip of his earlobe was below his toque, exposed, and he didn't know he had lost it until he returned home ... :eek:

I guess you would not be out shoveling lots of heavy snow for a long period of time in those temps since it is so very dry.

I guess you would not be out shoveling lots of heavy snow for a long period of time in those temps since it is so very dry.

Personally I am waiting for things to warm up a bit before doing any major shoveling. We have only had a couple of inches and it is quite easily shoved around. Still have meals for 3 more days so no panic at this point.:cool:

Meanwhile we have dropped a couple of more degrees. It is now -33°C :eek::eek::eek: but thankfully still very calm. Even with this bright sunlight I seriously doubt we shall see the forecast high of -21°C.

Personally I am waiting for things to warm up a bit before doing any major shoveling. We have only had a couple of inches and it is quite easily shoved around.

Meanwhile we have dropped a couple of more degrees. It is now -33°C :eek::eek::eek: but thankfully still very calm. Even with this bright sunlight I seriously doubt we shall see the forecast high of -21°C.

I would think that there would be more pushing of the snow than actual shoveling (i.e., lifting and throwing it somewhere).

I would think that there would be more pushing of the snow than actual shoveling (i.e., lifting and throwing it somewhere).

Tend to move it about 10-15 feet then toss it up onto the banks we have been building. Sadly it appears that our snow banks are a good deal more permanent than some of the US financial institutions.:D

Tend to move it about 10-15 feet then toss it up onto the banks we have been building. Sadly it appears that our snow banks are a good deal more permanent than some of the US financial institutions.:D

:lmao::lmao:

Personally I am waiting for things to warm up a bit before doing any major shoveling. We have only had a couple of inches and it is quite easily shoved around. Still have meals for 3 more days so no panic at this point.:cool:

Meanwhile we have dropped a couple of more degrees. It is now -33°C :eek::eek::eek: but thankfully still very calm. Even with this bright sunlight I seriously doubt we shall see the forecast high of -21°C.

Totally agree , it is the first time I have seriously prayed for a Chinook .... a big fat warm one!! :lmao::lmao:
it is 11Am and now there is a wind chill warning... (do 'ya think?) we have dropped to
-33 chill to-44 suppose to head for -21 hmmmm I don't think so!

baking helps warm things up, and it's good to eat too!!! :lmao:

Supposedly we got up to -16°C this afternoon. Did spend some time outdoors and everytime I looked at the thermometer it was hovering around -20°C. With the sundown we are bouncing back and forth between -27° and -24°.

We shattered the old record low of -28°C when we dipped down to -33°C this AM.

Good news is that a schnook is hopefully coming and we may be closing in on 0°C by tomorrow morning.

-33 and holding.

Those are downright brutal temperatures. Last week was frigid in Toronto, but nothing compared to those Western temps. It's mild again in the GTA, very wet day.

Good news is that a schnook is hopefully coming and we may be closing in on 0°C by tomorrow morning.

schnook - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/schnook): "a stupid or unimportant person : dolt" ;)

I think you mean 'chinook'. Chinook wind - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinook_wind)
Chinook winds, often called chinooks, commonly refers to foehn winds in the interior West of North America, where the Canadian Prairies and Great Plains meet various mountain ranges
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/Chinook_wind.jpg

schnook - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/schnook): "a stupid or unimportant person : dolt" ;)

:lmao::lmao:

With frozen lips it comes out schnook. Also a reference to the forecasters that can only manage to forecast them correctly about 50% of the time.:D

" ... We are up to a -1C, and my wife, who was born in raised in both Calgary and Edmonton, feels that it is cold outside. It is a damp -1C, which seems to chill her more than a -30C dry windchill in AB. Go figure??? ..."

When you're faced with simple cold air you can dress for the weather and move along. As air gets colder it loses it's ability to hold moisture, so although it's possible to have very cold air and high humidity, that same amount of moisture would be expressed as much less humidity in 30-degree warmer air.

That's also why places like the Arctic have relatively little snowfall ... it is in essence a desert climate ... not only is there less moisture to create snow in the first place, the water will tend to become saturated at a higher temperature and fall as snow ... before that air mass can move to colder areas.

In practical terms, that means it doesn't snow as much in Saskatchewan because it already dumped it's moisture in the northwestern US before it gets here (southwestern prevailing wind; "Warm Wet Air") or didn't have any to begin with (northwestern prevailing wind; the "Cold Arctic Air"). There is also a huge correlation between what Edmonton is experiencing one day and what Saskatoon experiences the next day, with Saskatoon generally getting less snowfall than Edmonton, or no snowfall at all, even if it did snow in Edmonton.

When it does snow, it's typically a situation where warm moist air meets cold dry air right over top of us.

I would say we've had a total of 3 inches/ 75 mm of snow this year here. Certainly there's less than that on the ground, and what falls here, stays here. There is no melt cycle that follows to any great extent.

Almost all the winter weather in AB/SK broadly speaking comes from Pacific Ocean currents and goes around the Rocky Mountains; ie from California (-> Colorado -> Montana -> AB/SK i.e. traveling northeast) or Northern Alaska (-> NWT -> AB/SK traveling southeast). The change in temperature predicted starting Wednesday will be a reversal of which prevailing wind we're getting.

But humidity can penetrate your clothing in a way that simply cold air cannot, and that compromises the insulating principles of the dead air space, which effectively becomes a cold wet space. You can be chilled easier with cold wet air against the skin, and the insulating value of the entire clothing package is compromised.

A similar, but opposite situation is sweating in warm clothing, although it is a warmer condition as there is still a dead air space in outer layers (if there isn't, you are 1 layer short of proper winter wear). Ideally it is combined with a wicking principle which is designed to move that moist air away from your skin, making it suspend between what should be two dead air spaces. Insulation is still compromised, but not directly next to the skin.

I'm sure every Newfie knows about the ability of wool to keep you warm when wet; it naturally wicks away moisture while still trapping dead air.

From my survival first aid and wilderness first aid courses *, we learn that water is 20x ** more effective at removing heat than air is (which is why removing wet clothing -- damn the embarrassment -- is a high priority in cases of hypothermia).

* - Very cool courses. They almost completely contradict the course of action taught in Red Cross/St John's Ambulance First Aid/CPR programs, which are based on the assumption that help is nearby.

** Some sources, eg US Coast Guard, say 32x, but we are taught 20x

+1C and the snow clouds have rolled in to ruin a nice sunrise.

-32 with a wind chill warning in effect. this should be our last day of the deep freeze.

-32 with a wind chill warning in effect. this should be our last day of the deep freeze.

Kudos ............ excpet now it is heading into SK.

2C and the sun is trying to come out at nearly 10AM.

We've warmed up to -26, but the wind makes it feel like -36 out there:

-7°C and starting to snow. Clouds seem much more threatening than the predicted minor flurries.

The computer temp says -23 but the thermometer outside says -15.... :clap:

I am wondering where to plant the palm trees tomorrow when it hits 0C or thereabouts...:lmao::D

Sinc's weather is heading our way. Was -27 early this morning .... warmed all the way up to -19(-26 with windchill). Sun is shining tho'.

Sunny and 4C this afternoon. A fine end-of-Fall day.

up to -12 C and sunny.... cooler with the wind chill (-22) and so it goes, I envy you your balmy warm day Dr G !!

-22 in bright sunshine over the noon hour and the winds have died to a breeze.

up to -12 C and sunny.... cooler with the wind chill (-22) and so it goes, I envy you your balmy warm day Dr G !!

My wife envys your temps, macdoodle. She would rather have cold temps and sunshine, than cool temps and rain/sleet/snow.

St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador - 7 Day Forecast - Environment Canada (http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/city/pages/nl-24_metric_e.html)

My wife envys your temps, macdoodle. She would rather have cold temps and sunshine, than cool temps and rain/sleet/snow.

St. John's, Newfoundland and Labrador - 7 Day Forecast - Environment Canada (http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/city/pages/nl-24_metric_e.html)

Well there is a lot to be said for dry and cold, over wet and cold.... but the bottom line is they both have their inherent dangers....
As for me I am not in favour of either one!! :ptptptptp

Up to -1 right now.... chinook wind earlier..very blowy ...and swirling snow, but calm right now, so out I shall go..... !:cool:

A calm +1C here in St.John's this evening. All is quiet for now.

Holyrood, Newfoundland and Labrador - Radar Imagery - Environment Canada (http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/radar/index_e.html?id=WTP)

This does not look good ................ and it is headed right for us here in St.John's.

Holyrood, Newfoundland and Labrador - Radar Imagery - Environment Canada (http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/radar/index_e.html?id=WTP)

This does not look good ................ and it is headed right for us here in St.John's.

Looks like they've painted a bulls eye to show the storm where it's supposed to go.:eek:

Very light snow all day in the SW corner of AB. We did manage did get just a smidge over freezing. So far the predicted winds seem to be staying a couple a hundred feet overhead. You could see the clouds racing overhead while things were perfectly calm here on earth.:)

Holyrood, Newfoundland and Labrador - Radar Imagery - Environment Canada (http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/radar/index_e.html?id=WTP)

This does not look good ................ and it is headed right for us here in St.John's.

Yep! looks like X marks the spot!! :eek: get all the 'gear' in line at the door!! you will need it!!:yikes:

sitting at + 1 now, big wind earlier, but considering how cold it was this morning, the Chinook was a welcome respite .... ;)

Will have to dig out the sunbathing attire if this keeps up! :lmao:

Much warmer at -20 this morning on the way to a high of -10.

Amazingly, that system drifted off into the Atlantic Ocean. Now we are at +2C and have some rain forecast with 80km/h winds. We don't have to shovel rain, and it might take some of the snow away with it. We shall see.

-12 now..
11803
Cold t'night but not so bad today with some sun... Not as cold as out west has been.

Amazingly, that system drifted off into the Atlantic Ocean. Now we are at +2C and have some rain forecast with 80km/h winds. We don't have to shovel rain, and it might take some of the snow away with it. We shall see.

Ahhh, miracles DO happen DrG :D sounds better than I had imagined it would be this morning....

We are sitting at +3 C and it is 8 AM :clap:

(For awhile there I was wondering if warm weather would grace our door before spring....);)

Almost +3C with some rain on the way just after noon here in St.John's.

Almost +3C with some rain on the way just after noon here in St.John's.

The Gods are smiling on us today ....:clap:

The Gods are smiling on us today ....:clap:

It is now snowing ............ :ptptptptp

Slid into positive territory overnight. An inch of nice fluffy snow and wonderfully clear skies. Still no wind. Looks like two or three gorgeous days :clap: followed by more winter.

It is now snowing ............ :ptptptptp

AWWW, ruined a perfectly good start to your day, maybe it won't last too long???;)

=3 still, but my outside thermometer says +5 and the sun is out , no wind, blue skies and lov-er-ly :D

We're stuck at -20 with bright sunshine. Sigh.

We're stuck at -20 with bright sunshine. Sigh.

Up to +7 now!! :clap:

surely you will get up into plus today Sinc??

Up to +7 now!! :clap:

surely you will get up into plus today Sinc??

Nope, forecast high for today is -7 and not until tonight.

+2C with a combination of soft hail and rain. Strange weather.

I just had the dog out to do his business and it is still very cold out there. Our thermometer says -17 and the breeze makes it feel quite cold. I doubt we will get to that high of -7 much before midnight.

Still +2C but lots of wind and rain right over us.

Holyrood, Newfoundland and Labrador - Radar Imagery - Environment Canada (http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/radar/index_e.html?id=WTP)

-20 this morning, -12 right now. I guess that is progress with a high of -9 tomorrow.