FILEMAKER IS LISTING THAT THE SERVER VERSIONS OF 11 AND 12 OF FILEMAKER ARE NOT COMPATIBLE
Mac OS X Mountain Lion compatibility and FileMaker products | FileMaker (http://help.filemaker.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/11004)

you would think Apple owns Filemaker and they would be able to figure things out before release

Please list any issues you have with 10.8 -
as of now I have held off from updating.. rule of thumb wait till 10.8.1 before we update.

Considering Filemaker Inc is only a subsidiary of Apple, it probably doesn't have as much priority for being compatible with OS X Mountain Lion than the software Apple actually makes themselves (iLife, iWork, Safari, etc).

I'm sure an update will come eventually in time.

mactheripper no longer works. (PowerPC application)

mactheripper no longer works. (PowerPC application)

Mine seems to. You may need to upgrade.

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Acccording to Roaring Apps, some of my apps may not work properly:

Garmin Map Update
Logitech Harmony Remote Software
Miro

So, it does not make sense for me to update yet; plus, Airplay (for everything, not just iTunes) will not wrk on my MBPro (Mid 2010), so again, no point in updating.

Cheers

Mine seems to. You may need to upgrade.

MTR 4 seems to be really hard to get... :(

MTR 4 seems to be really hard to get... :(

But worth it IMHO

MTR 4 • View topic - READ BEFORE Registering For This Forum!!! (http://www.ripdifferent.com/mtr/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=467)

mactheripper no longer works. (PowerPC application)

I didn't think any PPC application worked under the new mane of OS. That is the primary reason wh I have stayed with SL.

Mine seems to. You may need to upgrade.

mactheripper has not worked since Lion, never mind ML. It's a PPC app and only works in Snow Leopard or previous with Rosetta.

mactheripper has not worked since Lion, never mind ML. It's a PPC app and only works in Snow Leopard or previous with Rosetta.

MTR 4 works fine on my machine with lion.

Ah, I see a new version is out, not the original one which I have.

MTR 4, which is up to 4.2.7,works. You are referring to the outdated version.

Tried to delete post, won't let me.

MTR 4, which is up to 4.2.7,works. You are referring to the outdated version.

Tried to delete post, won't let me.

Oddly, I have 3.0R14i which seems to work just fine.

Linked here : MacTheRipper 3 R14 (MacTheRipper3R14.sitx) - DivShare (http://www.divshare.com/download/572318-473)

You can do some planning of what applications will not work in OS X 10.8 before being surprised. Use the System Profiler and view the "Applications" list under "Software." This will list all your applications and identify their "Kind."

PowerPC applications will not run in OS X 10.8

I doubt anyone even has it, but I should mention this anyway... if you have Trend Micro Security installed (as it was installed on my work machine by my IT dept), do NOT upgrade to Mountain Lion. Not only is it incompatible, but because it runs on startup you get stuck in an infinite reboot. I had to boot into recovery, go into the terminal and manually delete files as root. Everything else I have is working just fine.

A7

Strange, strange behavior with Quicken Essentials. I clicked it once in the Dock and it kept starting and quitting. Made it rather difficult to shut down to get out of the cycle. That's one of the apps I use everyday. Hope an update comes soon.

Someone said the Harmony software didn't work? I just updated my remote using the latest release with out issue. In fact today is the first time it has connected to the Logitech servers in weeks!

Had no real issues with Mountain Lion, all seems to work. Had an issue with VMware fusion, but an update to the latest build worked and allows it to function normally.

Acccording to Roaring Apps, some of my apps may not work properly:
Garmin Map Update


I don't have Map Update but Garmin Map Manager, Garmin Training Center and Garmin ANT Agent all work correctly for me so i would be surprised if Garmin Map Update didn't work (unless it is out-dated software).


Logitech Harmony Remote Software


Works fine for me.

Someone said the Harmony software didn't work? I just updated my remote using the latest release with out issue. In fact today is the first time it has connected to the Logitech servers in weeks!

Lol. Between this and the reports of power pc applications not working either I'm gld this thread exists hahaha

I don't have Map Update but Garmin Map Manager, Garmin Training Center and Garmin ANT Agent all work correctly for me so i would be surprised if Garmin Map Update didn't work (unless it is out-dated software).



Works fine for me.

Lol. Between this and the reports of power pc applications not working either I'm gld this thread exists hahaha

Well, if they work for you, then I should have no problems. I was going by the list on Roaring Apps. :)

Cheers

I'd say Address Book (Contacts). Just had it crash for the first time ever.

I lost all my contacts in Contacts since upgrading to Mountain Lion.
:eek::yikes:

I lost all my contacts in Contacts since upgrading to Mountain Lion.
:eek::yikes:

do you not use iCloud? All mine are stored that way and on multiple devices.

iStat pro (and nano) does not display the processes anymore.

^

It does on my MBP running ML 10.8

^

It does on my MBP running ML 10.8

only displays boxes and no info for the processes, everything else works though.

Question:
I there anybody who is running ML and has/uses CS3?

Does it run?
I've checked with some of the compatibility sites, but they indicate it has not been tested

or is this another reason why I cannot move beyond SL!

Question:
I there anybody who is running ML and has/uses CS3?

Does it run?
I've checked with some of the compatibility sites, but they indicate it has not been tested

or is this another reason why I cannot move beyond SL!

Just saw your question. I have CS3, but hadn't tried it yet on 10.8. I launched it and it gave me a message that I had to install a Java upgrade to run it on ML. I did the download and install, about 10 minutes BTW, and then launched CS3 and it appears to work just fine.

Hope that helps.

Thanks Don, that's great!

It may mean that I don't have to upgrade to CS6

I may do it anyway, but this gives me the choice


I appreciate your help

Booo... :(

Went to Airdrop a large video file from my MacBook Air to my 2008 iMac. Airdrop does not show up in my iMac. Looked into it, and Airdrop is only supported on 2009 Model and higher. :confused: It's just a blood file transfer?

That's Airplay and Airdrop that don't work on my iMac. Looks like my iMac is getting no Air. Maybe it's something with the built-in Airport card.

I've only had this machine for 3.5 years, and it still feels really fast and runs ML fine otherwise.

Booo... :(

Went to Airdrop a large video file from my MacBook Air to my 2008 iMac. Airdrop does not show up in my iMac. Looked into it, and Airdrop is only supported on 2009 Model and higher. :confused: It's just a blood file transfer?

That's Airplay and Airdrop that don't work on my iMac. Looks like my iMac is getting no Air. Maybe it's something with the built-in Airport card.


AirDrop is basically an ad-hoc wireless network between two computers. If I recall correctly, it's limited to newer computers that can do both the ad-hoc network, as well as maintain a traditional wireless connection.


I've only had this machine for 3.5 years, and it still feels really fast and runs ML fine otherwise.
Only?

Booo... :(

Went to Airdrop a large video file from my MacBook Air to my 2008 iMac. Airdrop does not show up in my iMac. Looked into it, and Airdrop is only supported on 2009 Model and higher. :confused: It's just a blood file transfer?

That's Airplay and Airdrop that don't work on my iMac. Looks like my iMac is getting no Air. Maybe it's something with the built-in Airport card.

I've only had this machine for 3.5 years, and it still feels really fast and runs ML fine otherwise.

I wish air drop would just stay on all the time, if I close the air drop window it seems to close out on other computers. At work, I have access to all computers admin accounts, so connect directly to the desktop or wherever I want to drop files and do it that way. Its pretty simple. Airdrop would be nice for all sharing, but I cant seem to figure out how to make it default on so any computer can see every other computers air drop.

Booo... :(

Went to Airdrop a large video file from my MacBook Air to my 2008 iMac. Airdrop does not show up in my iMac. Looked into it, and Airdrop is only supported on 2009 Model and higher. :confused: It's just a blood file transfer?

That's Airplay and Airdrop that don't work on my iMac. Looks like my iMac is getting no Air. Maybe it's something with the built-in Airport card.

I've only had this machine for 3.5 years, and it still feels really fast and runs ML fine otherwise.

Try AirParrot for the AirPlay part. It works on any Mac to beam your screen to an AppleTV 2 or 3.

http://airparrot.com/

I've avoided Lion and now MLion up till now, but still have the need to drop files between several computers, I needed a system that worked well and supported my vintage systems.
That's where DropCopy (http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/16250/dropcopy) comes in, does the job perfectly.
And yes, it is always there when you want it.

Booo... :(

Went to Airdrop a large video file from my MacBook Air to my 2008 iMac. Airdrop does not show up in my iMac. Looked into it, and Airdrop is only supported on 2009 Model and higher. :confused: It's just a blood file transfer?

That's Airplay and Airdrop that don't work on my iMac. Looks like my iMac is getting no Air. Maybe it's something with the built-in Airport card.

I've only had this machine for 3.5 years, and it still feels really fast and runs ML fine otherwise.

There's a quick fix for Airdrop on "unsupported" machines.

Use AirDrop on any Mac with Lion | Macworld (http://www.macworld.com/article/1162407/airdrop_any_mac.html)

Well, darn.

Just as I feared... Messages under 10.8 will not connect for video or audio chats with my folks old iMac G4 (10.4.11) running iChat 3.1.9. :ptptpt:

Their iChat won't even show them the incoming request for chat dialogue... only text chats are working.

Now, how will my mom see her only grandson live via the internet? Booooooo!

so "email link to this page" is missing from the "share" section of Safari 6

all that i see is "email this page" which is useless if you're trying to send someone a link

boooooo

so "email link to this page" is missing from the "share" section of Safari 6

all that i see is "email this page" which is useless if you're trying to send someone a link

boooooo

Huh? File->Mail link to this page. Or shift+Command+i will do it. :)

EDIT: Darnit. Paddy beat me to it...

;)

so "email link to this page" is missing from the "share" section of Safari 6

all that i see is "email this page" which is useless if you're trying to send someone a link

It's still there - just helpfully hidden!

Press command-shift-I (or hold down shift when going to FILE-->SHARE)

Huh? File->Mail link to this page. Or shift+Command+i will do it. :)

http://i.imgur.com/ZwwPg.png

where are you seeing "mail link to this page" under the file menu?

http://i.imgur.com/ZwwPg.png

where are you seeing "mail link to this page" under the file menu?

It's under Share now.

i think you might still be on 10.7 paddy?

It's under Share now.

under share you get "mail this page" not "mail link to this page"

broad, you did see my post (http://www.ehmac.ca/anything-mac/101089-things-dont-work-10-8-mountain-lion-2.html#post1209210), right? ;)

broad, you did see my post (http://www.ehmac.ca/anything-mac/101089-things-dont-work-10-8-mountain-lion-2.html#post1209210), right? ;)

no, but i did now. thanks

what a stupid thing to hide.

mactheripper no longer works. (PowerPC application)

Ripit Version 1.6.5 works, They've updated to work with Mountain Lion.

Vector Designer 1.7.0 won't work,
However the Apple App store version will work.

Check their website support for more info,
Some people are eligible for a free upgrade to work with Mountain Lion.
You need to have purchased the app after Dec/2010

I bought it in Jan/2010
I've emailed them.

[B]
It's still there - just helpfully hidden!

This is getting a bit ridiculous.... has Apple reverted back to kid's games and we now all have to play 'Hide and go seek'
Hide-and-seek - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hide-and-seek)

Here's something that's not so much a "doesn't work" so much as a little thing that has changed. Hitting the "Get Mail" button (or keystroke) no longer provides a visual indication that Mail is actually doing something. The spinning gear symbol used to appear beside the Inbox(es), but now, nothing. And the pop-up "activity" pane (bottom-left) shows nothing at all about progress when contacting the server, etc.

I guess we could assume that since no error pops up, it means that Mail did contact the server successfully, but if there's no new mail on the server, you are left to wonder whether Mail actually did anything. A silly omission, IMHO.

Here's something that's not so much a "doesn't work" so much as a little thing that has changed. Hitting the "Get Mail" button (or keystroke) no longer provides a visual indication that Mail is actually doing something. The spinning gear symbol used to appear beside the Inbox(es), but now, nothing. And the pop-up "activity" pane (bottom-left) shows nothing at all about progress when contacting the server, etc.

I guess we could assume that since no error pops up, it means that Mail did contact the server successfully, but if there's no new mail on the server, you are left to wonder whether Mail actually did anything. A silly omission, IMHO.

Yet another "Apple Sucks" attempt to garner iPhone/iPad only types. :ptptptptp

My "URL Manager Pro" is now officially broken, Crap, I've lost all my old bookmarks.
It's 20 british pounds sterling to upgrade, Screw that.

Anybody know where I can find "Activity" in Safari 6? Either I'm being really dense, or it's been stripped.... and nothing under the Develop menu seems to replicate that function... :(

.

delete key in safari no longer navigates back. now you have to do a cmd-[, be forced to reach for the mouse . what was the point of changing this? AFAIK they didn't map delete to soemthing else, and most other browsers are still using backspace/delete for back.

delete key in safari no longer navigates back.

I'm not close to my ML machine right now, but doesn't Safari recognizes CMD-LeftArrow? I cut always used this key combination without thinking about what browser I was using and as I recall, it always worked.

I'm not close to my ML machine right now, but doesn't Safari recognizes CMD-LeftArrow? I cut always used this key combination without thinking about what browser I was using and as I recall, it always worked.

It works.

Here's something that's not so much a "doesn't work" so much as a little thing that has changed. Hitting the "Get Mail" button (or keystroke) no longer provides a visual indication that Mail is actually doing something. The spinning gear symbol used to appear beside the Inbox(es), but now, nothing. And the pop-up "activity" pane (bottom-left) shows nothing at all about progress when contacting the server, etc.

I guess we could assume that since no error pops up, it means that Mail did contact the server successfully, but if there's no new mail on the server, you are left to wonder whether Mail actually did anything. A silly omission, IMHO.

While the gears are indeed now missing (and like you, I'd prefer that they were there), the Activity window does show Mail contacting the server. If there is no mail to be picked up, it's a blink and you miss it proposition though - all the servers (I have multiple accounts) were contacted at once and for a fraction of a second they showed up in the Activity window when I clicked on the Get Mail icon.

Has anyone figured out how to make Time Machine work in ML? I have tried every online method I can find, but still have not found a way to make TM do backups. I finally did a whole new backup on July 26, but no updates will work since.

Has anyone figured out how to make Time Machine work in ML? I have tried every online method I can find, but still have not found a way to make TM do backups. I finally did a whole new backup on July 26, but no updates will work since.

No problem here. Did you try reformatting your TM disk?

No problem here. Did you try reformatting your TM disk?

Lars, I just erased the external and re-ran TM which I though reformatted it, but it still won't update. Is there another step I should be doing?

Lars, I just erased the external and re-ran TM which I though reformatted it, but it still won't update. Is there another step I should be doing?

Does it throw an error of some sort?

delete key in safari no longer navigates back. now you have to do a cmd-[, be forced to reach for the mouse . what was the point of changing this? AFAIK they didn't map delete to soemthing else, and most other browsers are still using backspace/delete for back.

Re-enable the backspace key to go back a page in Safari 6 (http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20120727025535867)

you can enable it again using this command:
defaults write com.apple.Safari NSUserKeyEquivalents -dict-add Back "\U232b"

(Read full hint and warnings at: Macworld / MacOSXhints (http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20120727025535867))

Re-enable the backspace key to go back a page in Safari 6 (http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20120727025535867)

This is really getting ridiculous.
According to the article

It seems like Apple disabled the "Press Backspace to go back a page" feature in Safari 6 due to users having complained about losing text entered in text fields when they accidentally pressed the backspace key.

.........so Apple changed a perfectly good feature that has been there for ???? to accomodate some people who accidentally pressed the wrong key.

Have people responsible for this at Apple have completely lost their minds?

I hit the wrong key occasionally and sometimes something gets accidentally deleted - but that is my fault and next time I'm a bit more careful in which key I hit. Nice to know that I can possibly convince Apple to modify their software to accomodate my screw-ups. :D

Does it throw an error of some sort?

No, it just hangs with the progress bar stuck at 16 KB of 9.2 GB. Next time I try it may read 36KB of 2.1 GB. No rhyme nor reason to it. I've left it for an hour with no progress and it never moves.

a few grievances

a)i hate the stupid combo search/address bar. in old safari if i searched for something, got a result, went to the page and didnt like what i saw i could always just put the cursor in the search window, click again and id be right back at the results. now i have to re-type the search term, which is obnoxious
b)messages isnt showing me images in conversations that were added to the convo from my iOS devices. the messages beta did this and i miss it

Yep, the no backspace shortcut in Safari is driving me nuts.

The scrollbars are getting annoying, too. On some sites and within some Finder windows, it is ridiculous. On Reddit, the "logout" link is half-covered. Still clickable, but not a nice look. I also went to upload a photo to Facebook and the photo I wanted to choose was at the bottom of the list. I couldn't choose it because the damn scroll bar was covering it!

I'm not close to my ML machine right now, but doesn't Safari recognizes CMD-LeftArrow? I cut always used this key combination without thinking about what browser I was using and as I recall, it always worked.

It works here too in ML.

No, it just hangs with the progress bar stuck at 16 KB of 9.2 GB. Next time I try it may read 36KB of 2.1 GB. No rhyme nor reason to it. I've left it for an hour with no progress and it never moves.

Maybe try CCC???

But 9.2 GB sounds awfully small for TM to do a 'backup' on a newly formatted drive, or is it just doing some particular data backup I guess.

Yep, the no backspace shortcut in Safari is driving me nuts.

The scrollbars are getting annoying, too. On some sites and within some Finder windows, it is ridiculous. On Reddit, the "logout" link is half-covered. Still clickable, but not a nice look. I also went to upload a photo to Facebook and the photo I wanted to choose was at the bottom of the list. I couldn't choose it because the damn scroll bar was covering it!

that was present in lion too. i hated it at first then just got used to it. as you said, not pretty but not a deal breaker

.

Maybe try CCC???

But 9.2 GB sounds awfully small for TM to do a 'backup' on a newly formatted drive, or is it just doing some particular data backup I guess.

I use both CCC and SD and have two complete bootable clones of my MBP updated with smart update daily, one stored off site. The TM bits are just daily backups and 9.2 is huge for that purpose. It is normally 1 to 2.5 GB for a daily backup of the 230 GB or so TM uses on the disk. It's the daily data incremental backups that refuse to run on TM.

I use both CCC and SD and have two complete bootable clones of my MBP updated with smart update daily, one stored off site. The TM bits are just daily backups and 9.2 is huge for that purpose. It is normally 1 to 2.5 GB for a daily backup of the 230 GB or so TM uses on the disk. It's the daily data incremental backups that refuse to run on TM.
I have a 2 TB drive that is failing every TM backup as well. After the failure I am unable to unmount the drive as well. I do have CCC but use TM as well for new files etc.

when emailing a link from safari the link is now below your signature. unchecking the "place sig above quoted text" box remedies this, but then your sig is below all replies in normal emails

also the last arrow key you hit in mail (up or down when navigating the inbox etc) affects which way the highlighted message moves after you delete. this, too, is new.

why? this is moronic. why change these things?

No, it just hangs with the progress bar stuck at 16 KB of 9.2 GB. Next time I try it may read 36KB of 2.1 GB. No rhyme nor reason to it. I've left it for an hour with no progress and it never moves.

Use this: Download TM Error Logger for Mac - Time Machine error reporting program. MacUpdate.com (http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/30349/tm-error-logger).

Use this: Download TM Error Logger for Mac - Time Machine error reporting program. MacUpdate.com (http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/30349/tm-error-logger).

Does it really do any more than what a user can find and check in the Console log??

Does it really do any more than what a user can find and check in the Console log??

Of course it does. Not everyone claims as you do, to understand exactly what is going on with their machines at all times. More power to you if you do really have all the answers as it seems you do, but a tad less sarcasm would seem to be in order for people who do offer easy fixes. I for one appreciate their input more. ;)

Of course it does. Not everyone claims as you do, to understand exactly what is going on with their machines at all times. More power to you if you do really have all the answers as it seems you do, but a tad less sarcasm would seem to be in order for people who do offer easy fixes. I for one appreciate their input more. ;)

Gheese SINC, did you run out of your favourite relaxing beverage on a long hot weekend and all the local stores in your area are closed?

There was no sarcasm intended in my post, but just a normal question as to IF yet another utility would really be that beneficial for the average TM user.

I didn't really notice any great accolades at the posted site and/or any of the user comments, and I guess I wonder more for OS X ML users when I see at the developers site for the latest version, it states:

"TM Error Logger
Version 3.0.3
Now compatible with Snow Leopard and Lion"

No sarcasm, just a legit user's question and maybe some users feedback from those that use it - and the OS X version they're using.

Have a good enjoyable long holiday weekend. ;)


Edit: ie: is it actually OS X ML compatible and actually useful for those TM users?

Well, darn.

Just as I feared... Messages under 10.8 will not connect for video or audio chats with my folks old iMac G4 (10.4.11) running iChat 3.1.9. :ptptpt:

Now, how will my mom see her only grandson live via the internet? Booooooo!

Skype?

I can't find "Empty the cache" in Safari 6,
It used to be in the "Safari" menu, But now that option is gone.

I was so used to clearing History and Emptying the cache,
Now all I can do is clear the history.

The "Develop" menu has "Empty the caches", But there isn't a dialog box pop up for it,
Why would Apple get rid of this feature in the "Safari" menu?

Also noticed that Safari 6 doesn't work with my "Paid for" game site,
I can no longer use Safari 6 to play my favourite online games.

Now I'm forced to use Firefox instead,
Now that was a bonehead move for Apple.

Also noticed that Safari 6 doesn't work with my "Paid for" game site,
I can no longer use Safari 6 to play my favourite online games.

Now I'm forced to use Firefox instead,
Now that was a bonehead move for Apple.


Is your Safari 6 "Java" preference enabled?

A lot of on-line games use and need it to work.

I can't find "Empty the cache" in Safari 6,
It used to be in the "Safari" menu, But now that option is gone.

I was so used to clearing History and Emptying the cache,
Now all I can do is clear the history.

The "Develop" menu has "Empty the caches", But there isn't a dialog box pop up for it,
Why would Apple get rid of this feature in the "Safari" menu?

Try this:

First open Safari>Prefs>Advanced and you see this and click 'show develop menu in menu bar:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/46939750/Linked%20Photos%202/Screen%20Shot%202012-07-25%20at%206.57.08%20PM.png

Then click on develop menu in the menu bar and empty cache like so:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/46939750/Linked%20Photos%202/Screen%20Shot%202012-07-25%20at%206.59.15%20PM.png

I've tried that in the Develop Menu,
But it doesn't give me the pop up menu confirmation like it used to do.

The clear history does give me a pop up menu confirmation box though.

Is your Safari 6 "Java" preference enabled?

A lot of on-line games use and need it to work.

I have both Java and Java script enabled,
But my online game playing site still won't work.
(Pogo dot com)

This has happened before in a previous version of Safari and was later fixed by Apple,
I'm just hoping a fix is up and coming because I prefer to use Safari over Firefox.

The window for the game just loads... and loads... and then never loads...

that was present in lion too. i hated it at first then just got used to it. as you said, not pretty but not a deal breaker

Yep, but in ML they expand so it's even worse.

I have both Java and Java script enabled,
But my online game playing site still won't work.
(Pogo dot com)

This has happened before in a previous version of Safari and was later fixed by Apple,
I'm just hoping a fix is up and coming because I prefer to use Safari over Firefox.

The window for the game just loads... and loads... and then never loads...


Maybe try the suggested method that fixed the pogo problem for some, but I'm not sure if it applies to or works for both Lion and ML.

Games Forums Home | View topic - Problems with Mac Users (http://games-forums.pogo.com/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=33533&sid=f19fc7d82042783eb4207a6ce50e066b&start=15)

Maybe try the suggested method that fixed the pogo problem for some, but I'm not sure if it applies to or works for both Lion and ML.

Games Forums Home | View topic - Problems with Mac Users (http://games-forums.pogo.com/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=33533&sid=f19fc7d82042783eb4207a6ce50e066b&start=15)

Alright!!!!....Thank you very much, It works great now.

I followed these directions to the letter and now everything works fine in Safari 6
Thank you...Thank you...Thank you!!!!

Go to Applications - Utilities - Java Preferences and check mark "Enable applet plug-in and web start applications" and you should be good to go.

Alright!!!!....Thank you very much, It works great now.

I followed these directions to the letter and now everything works fine in Safari 6
Thank you...Thank you...Thank you!!!!

Glad to hear it worked and your feedback, but I'm still not sure what OS X version you're using.

And also, and again I don't know if you did, but oftentimes a full Mac restart is often required when making such changes.

Regardless, I'm glad to hear the fix worked for you and your pogo games. ;)

sudo rm -rf /

Glad to hear it worked and your feedback, but I'm still not sure what OS X version you're using.

And also, and again I don't know if you did, but oftentimes a full Mac restart is often required when making such changes.

Regardless, I'm glad to hear the fix worked for you and your pogo games. ;)

I'm using Mountain Lion, Also I didn't need to restart

I use both CCC and SD and have two complete bootable clones of my MBP updated with smart update daily, one stored off site. The TM bits are just daily backups and 9.2 is huge for that purpose. It is normally 1 to 2.5 GB for a daily backup of the 230 GB or so TM uses on the disk. It's the daily data incremental backups that refuse to run on TM.

I have a 2 TB drive that is failing every TM backup as well. After the failure I am unable to unmount the drive as well. I do have CCC but use TM as well for new files etc.

Finally a solution that works for now to allow Time Machine to work normally if you have the Mountain Lion glitch. System Preferences>Energy Saver> Disable 'Put hard disks to sleep when possible'. That allows TM to do normal backups until a fix is provided by Apple.

The above worked exactly once and I am back to no update function on Time Machine. Boo Apple!

The above worked exactly once and I am back to no update function on Time Machine. Boo Apple!

Maybe a crazy suggestion and as ML seems to do some crazy things and as your ML backup TM is not working or even as expected, maybe start over.

I'd suggest turning Off TM for now, then erase and zero out your TM backup volume you use, and when it's all finished, turn On TM and select the "new" volume to use.

Maybe your ML and TM will start working as expected. ;)

Maybe a crazy suggestion and as ML seems to do some crazy things and as your ML backup TM is not working or even as expected, maybe start over.

I'd suggest turning Off TM for now, then erase and zero out your TM backup volume you use, and when it's all finished, turn On TM and select the "new" volume to use.

Maybe your ML and TM will start working as expected. ;)

I have zeroed out the TM partition (and even the entire 2 TB external three times and re-ran it (at over three hours each time, BTW). I have also reinstalled ML. Twice. Still nothing. This is a major flaw that Apple has dropped the ball on. I have an incoming call from Apple support tomorrow morning at 9:00 a.m. Hopefully someone there can provide a solution.

Bizarre!! And why your temp HD 'sleep' fix only worked exactly once??

Is the drive some sort of unique type or brand?

Can you write and read and transfer files etc. to/from that drive? And I'm guessing the answer is 'yes'!

Let's hope that Apple has a proper solution for you tomorrow. ;)

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Bizarre!! And why your temp HD 'sleep' fix only worked exactly once??

Is the drive some sort of unique type or brand?

Can you write and read and transfer files etc. to/from that drive? And I'm guessing the answer is 'yes'!

Let's hope that Apple has a proper solution for you tomorrow. ;)

It is a Verbatim 2 TB external HD partitioned into two 1 TB sectors. The second sector is for a CCC clone which works perfectly and boots without issue.

Yes, I can read and transfer files to/from the drive. It also wrote the proper set-up of TM to the drive (three times now) in the first place, running for over three hours to do so each time.

Mine turned out being a bad drive!

I cannot see how it could be the drive when the clone boots normally.

The daily update I have always done on the MBP is all that is not working. It goes through the motions of preparing the update, then the progress bar appears and it wrote about 30 KB of a 1.2 GB update on the last attempt and then stalls and just sits there for over an hour if I let it. Normally the update takes under five minutes. Frustrating as can be.

I had issues with time machine and a USB3 dock, but it turned out it was the dock itself as I replaced it with a 4 bay docking station and things run perfectly. TM goes to a 3TB drive that never disconnects.

I decided to run a verify and repair using Disk Utility this morning just to be sure I had tried everything. Both partitions checked out good, but I did notice it is a Samsung HD in a Verbatim case. I double checked that the MBP Clone would boot and indeed it does. We'll see what Apple has to say in an hour or so now.

Here's something that's not so much a "doesn't work" so much as a little thing that has changed. Hitting the "Get Mail" button (or keystroke) no longer provides a visual indication that Mail is actually doing something. The spinning gear symbol used to appear beside the Inbox(es), but now, nothing. And the pop-up "activity" pane (bottom-left) shows nothing at all about progress when contacting the server, etc.

I guess we could assume that since no error pops up, it means that Mail did contact the server successfully, but if there's no new mail on the server, you are left to wonder whether Mail actually did anything. A silly omission, IMHO.

This is easily restored Mark. Just click on the little arrow symbol at the bottom of the mail window:

After an hour and a half on the line with Apple and finally being transferred to a senior advisor, I am no further ahead with the issue. The first rep had me do over everything I had already done to no avail. The senior guy asked what I had done in the past few days and said I did everything he would have done to try and solve the issue.

He then emailed me an app that he had me run on my machine that would give him a detailed report on the issue for the past attempts to see why TM stalls. It produced a folder with data that I then emailed back to him. He is now consulting with engineering as this is to their knowledge only the second computer to have the issue they are aware of, other than one of their own in earlier testing of ML. They were never able to replicate the problem and are now analyzing my data to produce a fix.

Stay tuned.

They promised to be back to me within 24 hours, so we shall see.

This is easily restored Mark. Just click on the little arrow symbol at the bottom of the mail window:

That's not precisely the issue, Don. I'm talking about the spinning gear icon just to the right of each account under "inbox". I'm out and about testing our new iPad 2 but will revisit this thread when I'm back on my laptop.

Cheers

That's not precisely the issue, Don. I'm talking about the spinning gear icon just to the right of each account under "inbox". I'm out and about testing our new iPad 2 but will revisit this thread when I'm back on my laptop.

Cheers

Yeah, I miss the little spinning gears too, but this allows you to see incoming and outgoing action at least. It beats the default 'nothing like a dead server' all to heck. ;)

It is a Verbatim 2 TB external HD partitioned into two 1 TB sectors. The second sector is for a CCC clone which works perfectly and boots without issue.

Yes, I can read and transfer files to/from the drive. It also wrote the proper set-up of TM to the drive (three times now) in the first place, running for over three hours to do so each time.



I cannot see how it could be the drive when the clone boots normally.

The daily update I have always done on the MBP is all that is not working. It goes through the motions of preparing the update, then the progress bar appears and it wrote about 30 KB of a 1.2 GB update on the last attempt and then stalls and just sits there for over an hour if I let it. Normally the update takes under five minutes. Frustrating as can be.


Is it connected and using USB or FW as if that should matter, but just curious, and maybe some sort of timing issue???

Also is there any sort of possible hint or suggestion of any problem in a Console log or even Activity Monitor as to what's happening?

But I don't think that TM is even listed as a running app or even as a process in Activity Monitor, even when it's running.

And as a crazy suggestion I'd try in desperation would be to change the TM target partition to your normal CCC partition (that is working at least with CCC) and see if TM is able to complete a backup there. Who knows, at least as a test for now???

Is it connected and using USB or FW as if that should matter, but just curious, and maybe some sort of timing issue???

Also is there any sort of possible hint or suggestion of any problem in a Console log or even Activity Monitor as to what's happening?

But I don't think that TM is even listed as a running app or even as a process in Activity Monitor, even when it's running.

And as a crazy suggestion I'd try in desperation would be to change the TM target partition to your normal CCC partition (that is working at least with CCC) and see if TM is able to complete a backup there. Who knows, at least as a test for now???

It is a USB 3 capable drive, but nothing in the logs on TM. As noted above Apple had me run an app that sent them all the TM logs. Running a test on the other partition would be a four hour exercise as it would first have to erase my clone, then redo the entire 305GB of data, so I could run a three minute test to see if it would update. Then I would have to redo the clone, taking another three plus hours to do, so no way am I going through all that, I will wait for Apple to respond first.

As a matter of interest, here only part of what the Apple app pulled off my MBP:

It is a USB 3 capable drive, but nothing in the logs on TM. As noted above Apple had me run an app that sent them all the TM logs. Running a test on the other partition would be a four hour exercise as it would first have to erase my clone, then redo the entire 305GB of data, so I could run a three minute test to see if it would update. Then I would have to redo the clone, taking another three plus hours to do, so no way am I going through all that, I will wait for Apple to respond first.

As a matter of interest, here only part of what the Apple app pulled off my MBP:

I was thinking of just trying TM to use the CCC clone partition without erasing or re-cloning anything.

Doing so, and IF it worked, should leave all your CCC stuff alone and the separate TM "backup" folders could then just be Trashed using the Finder if needed.

I'm curious as to the app that Apple sent you and what it actually does.


EDIT: I believe you said that your TM partition was the first or top partition as shown in Disk Utility Partitioning tab. I'm thinking waaaay out the box here of a System 8 or 9 quirk where a particular partition had to be the first or topmost to work for some OS quirk, but pretty doubtful that would matter these days. ;)

I was thinking of just trying TM to use the CCC clone partition without erasing or re-cloning anything.

Doing so, and IF it worked, should leave all your CCC stuff alone and the separate TM "backup" folders could then just be Trashed using the Finder if needed.

I'm curious as to the app that Apple sent you and what it actually does.


EDIT: I believe you said that your TM partition was the first or top partition as shown in Disk Utility Partitioning tab. I'm thinking waaaay out the box here of a System 8 or 9 quirk where a particular partition had to be the first or topmost to work for some OS quirk, but pretty doubtful that would matter these days. ;)

Thanks for the idea but to my knowledge, TM must first be created before it can 'update', no? To recreate it on the other partition will auto erase the clone, so your suggestion is not possible as near as I can figure. Incidentally, the clone on this drive was created with SD, not CCC and boots easily. I may have been at fault for that impression. The second clone on another HD is done with CCC. (I take no chances with data. ;))

UPDATE FROM APPLECARE VIA EMAIL:

"I looked over the logs and was not able to glean much information. Here's what I could find out. There is a directory that Time Machine is getting hung up on, we already knew that, I was not able to figure out what directory is the culprit. The logs have been submitted to Engineering for further analysis. I have received a generic reply that Engineering has received the request but they have not assigned anyone to it yet.

I do not expect a response from an actual person for 4-5 business days from today. My apologies for the slow response. As new information becomes available I will update you."

The saga continues, but now we know it is a directory issue.

Thanks for the idea but to my knowledge, TM must first be created before it can 'update', no? To recreate it on the other partition will auto erase the clone, so your suggestion is not possible as near as I can figure. Incidentally, the clone on this drive was created with SD, not CCC and boots easily. I may have been at fault for that impression. The second clone on another HD is done with CCC. (I take no chances with data. ;))

UPDATE FROM APPLECARE VIA EMAIL:

"I looked over the logs and was not able to glean much information. Here's what I could find out. There is a directory that Time Machine is getting hung up on, we already knew that, I was not able to figure out what directory is the culprit. The logs have been submitted to Engineering for further analysis. I have received a generic reply that Engineering has received the request but they have not assigned anyone to it yet.

I do not expect a response from an actual person for 4-5 business days from today. My apologies for the slow response. As new information becomes available I will update you."

The saga continues, but now we know it is a directory issue.


No, not from my experience.

Just change the TM Pref Pane to Off and then select the other partition as the selected volume, and then turn TM On, and as long as there's enough room TM will do its thing as initially, Time Machine makes a complete backup.

TM then just creates its "backup" folders on that selected volume and leaves everything else as it is.

TM will not erase any existing files, unless things have changed in ML. Maybe check it's Help info, as my SL version says:
"NOTE:Time Machine works best if you use your backup disk only for Time Machine backups. If you keep files on your backup disk, Time Machine won’t back up those files, and the space available for Time Machine backups will be reduced."

PS: from the Apple message, they mention "directory is the culprit", so maybe time to run an up to date DiskWarrior version on your source volume if you have it. It would most likely fix the problem.

No, not from my experience.

Just change the TM Pref Pane to Off and then select the other partition as the selected volume, and then turn TM On, and as long as there's enough room TM will do its thing as initially, Time Machine makes a complete backup.


Exactly, that's what I keep pointing out. That will take four hours to run to do a three minute test and having done it three times in the past week I have no desire to run it again if I can avoid it with a simple fix from Apple. Used to own DW, but I am tired of shelling out $100 every time Apple upgrades a system, so quit buying it, although that may be my last resort depending on how Apple fares.

Exactly, that's what I keep pointing out. That will take four hours to run to do a three minute test and having done it three times in the past week I have no desire to run it again if I can avoid it with a simple fix from Apple. Used to own DW, but I am tired of shelling out $100 every time Apple upgrades a system, so quit buying it, although that may be my last resort depending on how Apple fares.

I have not followed your problem from the beginning so maybe you have answered this, but have you tried a different drive? or different enclosure? I have had countless external enclosures go bad on me while the drive inside was perfectly fine.

Exactly, that's what I keep pointing out. That will take four hours to run to do a three minute test and having done it three times in the past week I have no desire to run it again if I can avoid it with a simple fix from Apple. Used to own DW, but I am tired of shelling out $100 every time Apple upgrades a system, so quit buying it, although that may be my last resort depending on how Apple fares.

OK, but just how many hundred GB of data do you have to backup?? And yes, a USB connection is much slower than by FW 800 which I have and use. Worth the extra price IMO.

And yes, the DW upgrade can be a PITA and the wallet, even with their registered user cheaper upgrade route. And the method to extract the new DW version without using their burn DVD etc. method is an extra backassward PITA method step.


EDIT: Oppps, I forgot that Alsoft provides a Free DiskWarrior 4 Version 4.4 Disc Update that's available for owners of previous DiskWarrior 4.x versions.

But the "extraction method" to just get the 4.4 version only is still a PITA!!! At least I and others haven't found an easy way to do so.

OK, but just how many hundred GB of data do you have to backup??

305 GB at the moment.

And yes, a USB connection is much slower than by FW 800 which I have and use. Worth the extra price IMO.

Once a TM or Clone is done after three hours plus, the daily backups are around six minutes.

And yes, the DW upgrade can be a PITA and the wallet, even with their registered user cheaper upgrade route. And the method to extract the new DW version without using their burn DVD etc. method is an extra backassward PITA method step.

My last DW was for Tiger, but I may buy it again to address this issue if Apple can't.


EDIT: Oppps, I forgot that Alsoft provides a Free DiskWarrior 4 Version 4.4 Disc Update that's available for owners of previous DiskWarrior 4.x versions.

But the "extraction method" to just get the 4.4 version only is still a PITA!!! At least I and others haven't found an easy way to do so.

I appreciate your suggestions nevertheless. I'm just not crazy about another four hour run to create a TM partition again. That would make four in the past five days so if a minor wait for Apple gets me a remedy, I'm good with that.

I appreciate your suggestions nevertheless. I'm just not crazy about another four hour run to create a TM partition again. That would make four in the past five days so if a minor wait for Apple gets me a remedy, I'm good with that.


Hmmm... maybe we're not quite on the exact same wavelength here, or possibly I'm missing or not understanding something.

As I understand your situation:

- your external USB already has two proper partitioned and GUID formatted partitions.
- one for TM use (that's not working to it's present selected partition volume) and the other for SD to its selected partition volume that is working, at least with SD.

My suggestion was to just try switching the TM's target partitioned volume and unless you're doing some high end intensive stuff on your Mac and then let it run and do its thing in the background, and you can just carry on using your Mac and no extra time needed.

Nothing else needed to setup anything else. And if TM balks with your "SD BackUp" volume selected, it should give you any failure message if and when it balks.

If it does, then I can't suggest anything better to fix any "directory" problem other than using DiskWarrior to repair you source volume.

I'm sorry if I sound like a nag, but I tend to be a bit of a persistent, old dog with a bone type bugger when it comes to some problems. ;)

And BTW, do you have any trouble cloning the same source volume to your other I gather, CCC cloned drive, when using CCC?

I ask because CCC will usually provide a message about any damaged directory and if it's really damaged, CCC may stop the clone and then give more reasons as to why and possibly even the actual damaged file etc.

If CCC works correctly and with no such error, then I would definitely suspect something's goofy with TM. But I can't find much or many ML users having trouble with TM.

At least you seem to have a pretty decent backup strategy in place. ;)

Hmmm... maybe we're not quite on the exact same wavelength here, or possibly I'm missing or not understanding something.

As I understand your situation:

- your external USB already has two proper partitioned and GUID formatted partitions.
- one for TM use (that's not working to it's present selected partition volume) and the other for SD to its selected partition volume that is working, at least with SD.

That is correct.

My suggestion was to just try switching the TM's target partitioned volume and unless you're doing some high end intensive stuff on your Mac and then let it run and do its thing in the background, and you can just carry on using your Mac and no extra time needed.

Nothing else needed to setup anything else. And if TM balks with your "SD BackUp" volume selected, it should give you any failure message if and when it balks.

I do not have the TM HD available in my current location. Will try that when I get back inside.

If it does, then I can't suggest anything better to fix any "directory" problem other than using DiskWarrior to repair you source volume.

I'm sorry if I sound like a nag, but I tend to be a bit of a persistent, old dog with a bone type bugger when it comes to some problems. ;)

I am much the same way, I keep at it until it's fixed or tossed out.

And BTW, do you have any trouble cloning the same source volume to your other I gather, CCC cloned drive, when using CCC?

Never any problem with CCC, but conversely never an issue with SD ever either until Mountain Lion.

I ask because CCC will usually provide a message about any damaged directory and if it's really damaged, CCC may stop the clone and then give more reasons as to why and possibly even the actual damaged file etc.

If CCC works correctly and with no such error, then I would definitely suspect something's goofy with TM. But I can't find much or many ML users having trouble with TM.

At least you seem to have a pretty decent backup strategy in place. ;)

I once learned the hard way. Backups are a priority with me now. ;)

you know one thing that does work in 10.8? the ability to scroll over embedded flash videos in safari, which I lost somewhere back around 10.6.7

Vector Designer 1.7.0 won't work,
However the Apple App store version will work.

Check their website support for more info,
Some people are eligible for a free upgrade to work with Mountain Lion.
You need to have purchased the app after Dec/2010

I bought it in Jan/2010
I've emailed them.

Lawrence did you hear anything back from the guys at TweakerSoft? I desperately need to upgrade to 1.7.3 in order to finish a client project but VectorDesigner is not available on the US Mac App Store for some reason (I'm in Minneapolis) and TweakerSoft has not responded to my emails. I'm so desperate, I'm now planning to install Lion on a Virtual Machine just so I can run VD 1.7.0 again...

Motion JPEG support is broken in Safari on Mountain Lion, frustrating since basically every security camera made in the last ten years and shipping today is based on MJPEG.

I noticed that the RSS Reader in Safari is gone. That's unfortunate. I know there are better solutions available but still it was handy.

the mail delete button behaviour makes me want to stab something. like..why? just leave it the eff alone.

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I use traditional Apple Mail. First thing I changed on my MBP. Wish the hell I could make it work on my iPhone and iPad, it is so far superior to the crap they would have you use that is iOS based. Everything works as expected on the MBP. The iOS stuff on other devices is a nightmare.