Hey everyone,

I want to get the new 15 inch Retina MBP.

Two questions:

1) I make websites. I rely on Dreamweaver, Photoshop and Flash CS3. If I get the new MBP, how will I reinstall these three very important programs onto my new mac? Is there a way where I can just copy the program's files onto an external hard drive and put them on the new MBP? I'm concerned because I got these programs on a disk from one of my teachers. I don't have that disk or the serial information anymore so I'm wondering if this will be a problem transferring over.

2) How much do you think my current MBP is worth? I'm going to put it on eBay. I used this site Mac2Sell.net to value it but I'm not sure if its accurate. Here are my specs:

2009 MBP Unibody
2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3
Condition: Slightly dented corner, regular usage/scratches/scuffs around exterior. No scratches on the screen.

The site above says it's worth $1000.00, not sure if that's a little too hopeful or...?

Anyone have experience selling an 09 MBP on eBay? Do you expect it to sell fast?

Thanks!

uPhone, you'll find little help here at ehMac for blatantly pirating software.

You won't get anything near $1000 for that. Also keep in mind eBay takes a huge chunk out of the money you make.. and if you have a premier Paypal account, expect to lose even more.

Last thing I sold for $400, eBay/Paypal took $50 of it. F'in greedy bastards. eBay is definitely a last resort when it comes to selling things. You're better off just listing it on Kijiji.

As far as preserving your software goes, do a Time Machine back up and restore the applications when you set up the new machine. Make a note of the serial numbers just in case you have to enter them again when you launch them for the first time on the new machine... not sure if you'll have to, but just in case.

You would need to use Migration Assistance to transfer all the software in a way that will keep it functional. Office excluded, since that always loses its serial number when it's transferred.

uPhone, you'll find little help here at ehMac for blatantly pirating software.

Dear Idiot,

The software was given to me by an Emeratus professor at my university under license, which has a partner affiliation with Adobe, as we have one of the biggest digital media programs in the country.

I lost the CD, idiot. Please don't respond to my post without an educated response.

You won't get anything near $1000 for that. Also keep in mind eBay takes a huge chunk out of the money you make.. and if you have a premier Paypal account, expect to lose even more.

Last thing I sold for $400, eBay/Paypal took $50 of it. F'in greedy bastards. eBay is definitely a last resort when it comes to selling things. You're better off just listing it on Kijiji.

As far as preserving your software goes, do a Time Machine back up and restore the applications when you set up the new machine. Make a note of the serial numbers just in case you have to enter them again when you launch them for the first time on the new machine... not sure if you'll have to, but just in case.

Hmm.. I've never had this experience with eBay and I've sold things worth thousands before. I know that fees are higher if your purchase/sale is under $500.

Thanks for the advice though. Maybe I'll just put it on eBay for $1000 and see if there are any suckers :P

You would need to use Migration Assistance to transfer all the software in a way that will keep it functional. Office excluded, since that always loses its serial number when it's transferred.

Thanks! I will give Migration Assistance a try. I think I have the serial for Word still so that should be okay.

You are using pirated software to generate income? Bad idea all around. Time to bite the bullet and buy the software. At least it's tax deductible in your situation.

You are using pirated software to generate income? Bad idea all around. Time to bite the bullet and buy the software. At least it's tax deductible in your situation.

Okay, you people are retarded. First of all, as I mentioned twice, it's not pirated, I was given the software on a disc by my professor. The disc came in an envelope that had the serial number on it. I don't have that.

Second of all, you idiot trolls are so annoying.

In fact, if I was one to "pirate software to generate income", I'd perhaps torrent CS6 instead of using 5 year old CS3 software. How hard would it be for me to solve my problem by going onto thepiratebay and just re-downloading this software?

THINK BEFORE YOU POST, IDIOTS.

Unless you are at university - your software use is illegal - just what don't you understand about that simple fact.
Your professor cannot "give" you a legal licence - it's not his in the first place.

You will not be able to use the software easily on a retina anyways.

Known issues | Adobe on Mac OS 10.7 Lion (http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/global/known-issues-mac-os-10.html)

Listen to people who do understand what you patently do not.

If you want to work as a professional then get a lease to own for both your equipment and your software.
On a monthly basis it is not all that much and then you won't get dissed as you have been here.

The Adobe serial numbers will not copy over and Adobe 3 will have some issues with Lion depending on the program.

Your signature is not helping you.

The Adobe serial numbers will not copy over...

I've never had Adobe CS applications fail to transfer serial numbers using Migration Assistance between Macs.

So professional - remind me to keep the professional community well away from you.
Your professor does you a favour and you abuse it. A "student" that can afford a retina can afford the software that is "really important".

Touched a nerve there I would suggest.
Your bigotry and online manners are appalling and I'm sure will be shortly dealt with by the proper authorities.

1. mac2sell lists your computer at around the $650 range. I bought my one year newer MBP with slightly slower processor but way faster video card for around that.
2. You should be able to copy most applications over to your new machine without any license issues. I've had some software ask me to reactivate. I had to buy Parallels again as version 3 did not work in Lion.
3. May I advise you to seek anger management courses?
4. May I advise others to learn the term "benefit of the doubt"? (prior to uPhone admitting he was using education license software commercially).

So professional - remind me to keep the professional community well away from you.
Your professor does you a favour and you abuse it. A "student" that can afford a retina can afford the software that is "really important".

Touched a nerve there I would suggest.
Your bigotry and online manners are appalling and I'm sure will be shortly dealt with by the proper authorities.

LMAO "Dealt with by the proper authorities"

THIS IS A MAC FORUM GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!

1. mac2sell lists your computer at around the $650 range. I bought my one year newer MBP with slightly slower processor but way faster video card for around that.
2. You should be able to copy most applications over to your new machine without any license issues. I've had some software ask me to reactivate. I had to buy Parallels again as version 3 did not work in Lion.
3. May I advise you to seek anger management courses?
4. May I advise others to learn the term "benefit of the doubt"? (prior to uPhone admitting he was using education license software commercially).

Really? That's weird, when I did it it said $1000, I must have entered something wrong. When it asked me for RAM it asked for it in MB instead of GB? so I put 4000? (for appox. 4 GB? lol)

UPhone, your demeanor leaves some room for improvement. Generally speaking people here are trying to give good advise.

As far as copying the software over, yes it can be migrated over as mentioned already.

As far as the legality of the software, any educational software agreement would only cover for the software to be used in an educational setting outside of that (or after school is completed) the software really should be removed and a regular version of the software should be purchased. I'm not going to preach proper software use and piracy as I'm guilty of it from time to time, but others here feel strongly about it as noticed in their posts. Rather than calling them idiots, I would suggest you either reply with nice comments or say nothing at all. It's not that hard.

As far as legal issues with the software, I doubt Adobe will spend much time following up illegal use of CS3, but as new OS's are released I would assume you may run into issues running older software and may be forced to upgrade at which time I would suggest getting proper versions for a commercial setting if you rely on it to do commercial work.


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He used to come on ehMac and brag about how many cars, boats, houses, etc..

I guess it's the mark of a true Canadian website: you'll help someone who repeatedly insults you.

Banned before, he's banned again.

Wow!! :eek: uPhone should be more than put on vacation he should simply be punted altogether. We don't someone who makes posts like that around here.

some misinformation here.

first for the OP - even educational software is supposed to be registered in your name on a private computer. your teacher should not have given you a copy. (not that adobe is going to hunt you down or anything, but strictly speaking it's not a legitimate way to get the software).

secondly, for everyone who thinks an Adobe educational license can't be used for commercial work, it actually can (at least in north america).

Can I use my Adobe Student and Teacher Edition software for commercial use?
Yes. You may purchase a Student and Teacher Edition for personal as well as commercial use.

academic software discounts faq, academic discount software faq | Adobe (http://www.adobe.com/sea/special/education/students/studentteacheredition/faq.html)

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Mac2Sell.net is a great tool for estimating the value of your Mac, but you could also do a local search on Kijiji to see what similar systems are going for. The estimate you got is generous. Ultimately it's simply a matter of what people are prepared to pay for it. List it for whatever price you think it's worth on Kijiji and if someone buys it... cool.

In terms of your Adobe software, the other posters here are correct (and I'm surprised your professor didn't educate you on licensing rights when he provided the disk to you). Educational licenses are intended exclusively for the purpose of learning. Sometimes there are discounts available to people upgrading from an educational license to a full license, but in such cases you are expected to be the owner of the educational software... which you clearly are not. If your professor rightfully distributed software to students under a volume license, the EULA clearly states that the software must be used exclusively for the activities of the business who owns the license.

As a result, no matter how you slice that melon, you are illegally using the software on your Mac since the license was never in your name, you no longer are part of the university organization, and you aren't a student. You aren't the first to do it but I can tell you that if you ever were to get one of the random software Auditor visits that do happen more frequently to businesses and freelancers of all sizes, you will be forced to purchase and provide proof of purchase of valid licenses for all of your software within a short period (3-6 months). If you fail to comply, there are huge fines and possibly jail time involved.

You're not just tinkering with photoshop creating memes in your basement, you stated that you profit from the software commercially. That right there is what can get you into trouble. No need to get defensive about it... people here are just trying to save you a world of pain. And as another poster already mentioned, Retinas are going to come installed with Lion (and soon, Mountain Lion). There are issues with versions of Adobe CS 4 and under in Lion+. As such you'll likely be needing to upgrade anyway.

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That's me over there on the left...

hahahaha

Mac2Sell.net is a great tool for estimating the value of your Mac, but you could also do a local search on Kijiji to see what similar systems are going for. The estimate you got is generous. Ultimately it's simply a matter of what people are prepared to pay for it. List it for whatever price you think it's worth on Kijiji and if someone buys it... cool.

In terms of your Adobe software, the other posters here are correct (and I'm surprised your professor didn't educate you on licensing rights when he provided the disk to you). Educational licenses are intended exclusively for the purpose of learning. Sometimes there are discounts available to people upgrading from an educational license to a full license, but in such cases you are expected to be the owner of the educational software... which you clearly are not. If your professor rightfully distributed software to students under a volume license, the EULA clearly states that the software must be used exclusively for the activities of the business who owns the license.

As a result, no matter how you slice that melon, you are illegally using the software on your Mac since the license was never in your name, you no longer are part of the university organization, and you aren't a student. You aren't the first to do it but I can tell you that if you ever were to get one of the random software Auditor visits that do happen more frequently to businesses and freelancers of all sizes, you will be forced to purchase and provide proof of purchase of valid licenses for all of your software within a short period (3-6 months). If you fail to comply, there are huge fines and possibly jail time involved.

You're not just tinkering with photoshop creating memes in your basement, you stated that you profit from the software commercially. That right there is what can get you into trouble. No need to get defensive about it... people here are just trying to save you a world of pain. And as another poster already mentioned, Retinas are going to come installed with Lion (and soon, Mountain Lion). There are issues with versions of Adobe CS 4 and under in Lion+. As such you'll likely be needing to upgrade anyway.

Just to add a couple of points... using software in the manner the OP is suggesting does not constitute piracy as he is not reproducing it and selling it for profit illegally. That would constitute piracy.

He would be breaking EULA's but that is a much lesser offence and one that would only be addressed in civil court where he could potentially be subject to a fine and he would have no criminal record for his actions. Piracy on the hand is a criminal offence that can be punishable with jail time and would carry with it a criminal record.

Truth be told, if he were able to get the software he is looking for working without a license and using it even for commercial work it is HIGHLY unlikely he would ever get caught and brought to civil court.

Perhaps the school had an agreement with Adobe where they could distribute copies to students complete with license numbers for education use only and may not continue using the software afterwards for anything other than practicing. If the uPhone purchased his own education license, he would've been free to continue using the software commercially after school.

screature, uPhone does remind me of ArtistSeries who you've had a few online scuffles with if I remember correctly. :)

Perhaps the school had an agreement with Adobe where they could distribute copies to students complete with license numbers for education use only and may not continue using the software afterwards for anything other than practicing. If the uPhone purchased his own education license, he would've been free to continue using the software commercially after school.

screature, uPhone does remind me of ArtistSeries who you've had a few online scuffles with if I remember correctly. :)

Could be but I don't recognize the name "ArtistSeries"...

BTW I had no scuffle with uPhone, he was put "On Vacation" before I could reply to him directly, but referring to anyone here, let alone whole groups of people as "idiots" is completely unacceptable and punting worthy IMO.

screature,

I'm speaking from personal experience working for a company that had a software audit a few years ago. I learned that software audits can happen to anyone... and they are thorough. A company can get burned from an employee installing their own personal software even legitimately licensed to that employee. You can be an independent freelancer or a large corporation... audits are completely random.

While I'm sure you're correct on the finer points of what is considered a lesser offense, software EULAs are pretty clear about intent of use in terms of the extent of licenses (this could be the difference between immediate fines, jail time and/or grace period extended to correct licensing).

In this uPhone's case, it doesn't sound like his current situation would be covered by a license provided to him by a professor from a previous educational experience in his current enterprises. While the license may be valid (to the institution that it was provided to), it would only be for the extent of that institution's activities (commercial or educational). It doesn't sound like the uPhone's current activities have anything to do with that educational institution, so he'd get burned.

Ultimately it's up to uPhone if he's willing to take the risk. It sounds like he's comfortable with it, but perhaps he wasn't aware of those risks or the extent of validity of his use of the software. It's all moot anyway if he gets the Retina though... he wouldn't be able to legitimately upgrade his software as the key is associated with an educational facility that he is no longer associated with.

screature,

I'm speaking from personal experience working for a company that had a software audit a few years ago. I learned that software audits can happen to anyone... and they are thorough. A company can get burned from an employee installing their own personal software even legitimately licensed to that employee. You can be an independent freelancer or a large corporation... audits are completely random.

While I'm sure you're correct on the finer points of what is considered a lesser offense, software EULAs are pretty clear about intent of use in terms of the extent of licenses (this could be the difference between immediate fines, jail time and/or grace period extended to correct licensing).

In this uPhone's case, it doesn't sound like his current situation would be covered by a license provided to him by a professor from a previous educational experience in his current enterprises. While the license may be valid (to the institution that it was provided to), it would only be for the extent of that institution's activities (commercial or educational). It doesn't sound like the uPhone's current activities have anything to do with that educational institution, so he'd get burned.

Ultimately it's up to uPhone if he's willing to take the risk. It sounds like he's comfortable with it, but perhaps he wasn't aware of those risks or the extent of validity of his use of the software. It's all moot anyway if he gets the Retina though... he wouldn't be able to legitimately upgrade his software as the key is associated with an educational facility that he is no longer associated with.

Agreed when operating for a company... when a freelancer it is the wild, wild west....

I worked in a corporate environment in the marketing communications department of a multinational company for 5 years and the thought of using unlicensed software was completely unheard of... now that I work in the public sector it is virtually impossible, so no need to tell me of the risks involved at a corporate level... but who at a corporate level has access to install software on a network other than IT staff replete with their passwords etc?? None that I know of... maybe on some small scale private business.

What I am saying is if you are working at a freelance level, which means commercially/for profit even if you are running unlicensed software it is highly unlikely anyone will know, as who exactly is going to audit the software you are running?

Dear Idiot,


A good example of what not to do on ehMac (or in real life for that matter). Give me OGL over this any day!

Hmmm... but just wondering what the OP actually considers who, what and why they consider such reply posters to be regarded as "retarded" and "Idiots" etc.

It seems to me, those phrases should be applied to the original poster as a minimum.