: Evom


mgmitchell
May 27th, 2012, 03:05 PM
Okay, so what is this?

http://michaelgmitchell.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/54042998/Evom.png


It IS in the iTunes Movie Folder. Makes no sense. Evom does dump it there. Some silly glitch?
/M.

SINC
May 27th, 2012, 06:13 PM
Never heard of Evom, but try converting it with Handbrake for Apple instead. It works seamlessly with iTunes and it's free:

HandBrake (http://handbrake.fr/downloads.php)

mgmitchell
May 28th, 2012, 07:33 PM
Wha? Never? I was told about Evom here!
But I'll try Handbrake. I have it, just haven't used it.

mgmitchell
May 29th, 2012, 09:02 AM
Just used Handbrake. Converts it (quickly) to an mp4. Won't dump into iTunes. Seamless? How so? Confused.
/M.

krs
Jun 4th, 2012, 05:03 PM
I use Evom all the time, partially because the conversions are done very quickly and partially because Handbrake no longer supports conversion to .avi

As far as the problem is concerned - doesn't one select the target folder where one wants the video saved?

mgmitchell
Jul 8th, 2012, 09:25 PM
One does, yes. And one did. And one STILL gets the silly message.
Actually, I'm getting really tired of the HOURS it takes for one video to convert on Evom. Really. Like nine hours to convert a 'Damages' episode. Seriously. Maybe my MBook's pooched. I don't have thousands of things running, either. Damn it.
/M.

tilt
Jul 8th, 2012, 10:24 PM
I use IVI to do this. All I do is drag the video and drop it onto IVI, it gets the artwork, it finds out the correct tags, converts it and moves it into iTunes into the appropriate category (Movies or TV episode etc.) and I can view it on my Apple TV - seamless.

Plus, it takes around an hour to convert a full HD movie.

Cheers

mgmitchell
Jul 9th, 2012, 09:43 AM
I use IVI to do this. All I do is drag the video and drop it onto IVI, it gets the artwork, it finds out the correct tags, converts it and moves it into iTunes into the appropriate category (Movies or TV episode etc.) and I can view it on my Apple TV - seamless.
Plus, it takes around an hour to convert a full HD movie.
Cheers

Woa. 'tilt'. Thanks, big time. Took the plunge, bought it. Evom was STILL rendering 'The Newsroom' about 9 hours later, THEN cancelled on me overnight. Plopped it into iVI this morning, done in 47 minutes! A 'Damages' episode in 33 minutes! Wow. AND, right into iTunes. Haven't tried to watch on ATV2; I'll do that tonight.
Thinking of all the frustrations I've experienced for MONTHS. Duh. Not so much anymore, it appears.
I owe you, sir.
/M.

krs
Jul 9th, 2012, 11:17 AM
iVI is a new application for me.

I just decided to try it.

Did a conversion of a one-hour (with ads) TV episode, that took a bit over an hour with Evom and 45 minutes with iVI.
So iVI is faster but I couldn't find the converted iVI file on my Mac.
I had changed the destination to a folder where I place all my video conversions since I don't use iTunes, I also had iTunes deselected but iVI seems to want to place the converted file into iTunes regardless because when the conversion was complete, the license window for iTunes popped up...where I declined.
So now I have no clue where that converted file is or if it just gets deleted.
Tried a search but all that comes up is the original file and the converted file using Evom.

One thing I can't figure out with iVI - how does one select the target video container?
I want to convert some video files to .avi, others to mp4 and still others to .wmv, can't find an option to select that.

I'm trying thew conversion with iVI again to see what the final quality is like compared to Evom.BTW /M, I usually convert from whatever to .avi on a two year old Mac Mini and no conversion took anywhere near several hours, there is something else going on in your case.

And when I do conversions, I use the Mac for other things at the same time, like typing this reply or searching the web or doing emails.

tilt
Jul 9th, 2012, 12:47 PM
You're welcome MG.

KRS, under Preferences in IVI you should be able to set the destination location for the converted files. Just make sure that you select the location for Home Movies, Movies, TV Shows and for Default.

Also, Under "General", make sure iTunes Support is unchecked.

BTW, I don't think there is an option to set the format of the converted file (avi or mp4 or wmv). For that you can use MacX Video Converter Pro.

Cheers

krs
Jul 9th, 2012, 01:52 PM
Thanks tilt,

First time around I only changed the destination location for the "default' option assuming every conversion would go to what ever I selected.
Well that was wrong - one needs to set the destination location for each type of video separately.
iTunes support was unchecked but that didn't help.

As to not being able to select the output format - I find that a bit odd considering this is what "conversion" is all about - changing from one format to another.

One thing I like is that one can boost the audio volume, at least I think that is an option where it has a slide control for Default audio volume in "conversion preferences".
Or is that volume control option only for the "Default" conversions?
There is also no indication as to the actual audio level boost in dbs or percentage, so this is all guess work.

For a commercial application I find the user interface is pretty poor.

mgmitchell
Jul 9th, 2012, 03:54 PM
Okay. So, all three files are showing in my TV Folder in iTunes. But they aren't there. Wants me to "locate" the files. Oh well. Back to the drawing board.
I unchecked iTunes Support under 'Devices' (not General). I changed under 'Video Sources' from "leave the file alone" to "move the file to a directory below" (set up an iVI folder in Movies). I'll try again.
It's 4 bucks. Big deal.
But 'krs', yes, SOMETHING is wrong with my MBook. I used to convert through Evom in shorter periods. Not sure how I can check if I'm bloated somewhere. Diagnostics? Repairs?
/M.

mgmitchell
Jul 9th, 2012, 05:09 PM
I started a "HELP!" thread in this forum. You'll see it. I'm heading out for a bit. At the moment, I'm re-converting one show on iVI, and it has about 15 min. left to finish. I deleted Evom, re-installed it. I'm converting one show on THAT, and in the past half-hour or so, it's gone from 6 hours left to NINE hours, 6 minutes left. Something's screwed, surely. Back later.
/M.

mgmitchell
Jul 9th, 2012, 09:30 PM
Okay. The show with iVI took 1:42 to finish and it's showing in ATV2, finally. Must have been the changes I made in the Preferences as you suggested (and from the web site support). JUST finished the video with Evom. A whopping 5 hours, 6 minutes. WTH?
/M.

krs
Jul 9th, 2012, 09:44 PM
What quality level are you selecting in each case?
That would make a difference I think.

I use Evom to convert mp4 files to avi - that was relatively quick with Evom; converting avi to mp4 takes a lot longer.

mgmitchell
Jul 9th, 2012, 10:15 PM
What quality level are you selecting in each case?
That would make a difference I think.
I use Evom to convert mp4 files to avi - that was relatively quick with Evom; converting avi to mp4 takes a lot longer.

Well, I do it the other way around because iTunes/ATV2 doesn't play .avi, do they? Has to be ATV2-compatible. Nothing super quality. Just medium.

The last one with iVI took only 42 minutes. Hmm. Might be giving Evom a rest.
Thanks for your input. Learning lots. As usual.
/M.

krs
Jul 9th, 2012, 11:15 PM
I ended up converting pretty much every video I have to avi for two reasons.
1. My old G4 tower will play avi files with no problem but can't plat mp4 or mkv or any of the ones requiring more CPU power, and
2. My DVD player will play DVDs (obviously) and avi files, but no mp4's.

I just made a major investment and bought a media player that converts videos on either USB sticks or SD memory cards and provides either composite or component output for a TV. Set me back a whole $29.- with a $10.- rebate.
Tried it out yesterday, seems to work just great - it will play .avi files as well as mp4's and a whole slew of other formats.
Perfect for what I need considering I only watch videos every blue moon - beats burning DVDs.

mgmitchell
Jul 15th, 2012, 06:14 PM
Evom's been in touch, and it's clear that I'm just being an idiot for thinking I could convert multiple videos with Evom AND iVI at the same time with 1 GB of RAM on this ol' MBook.
It's purring away in the last little while when I use one or the other. Still, I'm acutely aware that bumping up to 2 GB or 3 GB RAM is going to be necessary if I want to get another couple of years out of this MBook.
Thanks for your comments and advice.
/M.

polywog
Jul 15th, 2012, 06:38 PM
Smart converter pro is insanely fast for a lot of conversions (especially from mkv.) Worth checking out.

mgmitchell
Jul 15th, 2012, 06:58 PM
I will, thanks.
/M.

vancouverdave
Jul 15th, 2012, 07:45 PM
+1 for IVI here too.

I output to iTunes, then Apple tv, iPhone, and iPad.

mgmitchell
Jul 15th, 2012, 10:48 PM
Smart converter pro is insanely fast for a lot of conversions (especially from mkv.) Worth checking out.

Are you kidding me? Where the hell has THIS been? It took a grand total of ... 1 minute, 52 seconds to convert TWO 'Justified' videos to Apple TV! And I've been slugging away with Evom?
A huge thanks for this little heads-up. I'm "converted" (!).
/M.

polywog
Jul 16th, 2012, 12:29 PM
Are you kidding me? Where the hell has THIS been? It took a grand total of ... 1 minute, 52 seconds to convert TWO 'Justified' videos to Apple TV! And I've been slugging away with Evom?
A huge thanks for this little heads-up. I'm "converted" (!).
/M.

You're quite welcome. Keep in mind though that it's only that fast under a specific set of circumstances, ie. , the data in the 'container' is identical to the requested output format.

mgmitchell
Jul 16th, 2012, 12:39 PM
You're quite welcome. Keep in mind though that it's only that fast under a specific set of circumstances, ie. , the data in the 'container' is identical to the requested output format.

True. Noticed that this morning, converting a 'Damages' episode. It chose the "slowest" rate because of the container data. Still only took less than a 1/2 hour!
/M.

krs
Jul 16th, 2012, 12:54 PM
Well, I was all keen on that application - always looking for better video manipulation tools for the Mac, but then I come across this:

Download Smart Converter Pro 1.4.3 Free Trial - Efficient and smart video and music converter for your Mac - Softpedia (http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Video/Smart-Converter-Pro.shtml)

User Rating" poor

What gives?
Is the converted file poor?
Any one else using that who can shed some light on the "poor" performance?

mgmitchell
Jul 16th, 2012, 02:53 PM
Well, I was all keen on that application - always looking for better video manipulation tools for the Mac, but then I come across this:
Download Smart Converter Pro 1.4.3 Free Trial - Efficient and smart video and music converter for your Mac - Softpedia (http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Video/Smart-Converter-Pro.shtml)
User Rating" poor
What gives?
Is the converted file poor?
Any one else using that who can shed some light on the "poor" performance?

I have three shows converted. I'll try one tonight and see if there's a hiccup. Not sure either. The conversions were crazy-fast. Also going to convert one with iVI and see if there's a difference.
/M.

vancouverdave
Jul 16th, 2012, 03:10 PM
I think one user was disappointed with Smart Conveter, saying that the sound was always downgraded to 'stereo', per the app store reviews.

IVI, for half the price, will also do the 'fast' container moves, as well as populate your metadata. I am still on the free trial, but will gladly pay the upgrade.

Well, I was all keen on that application - always looking for better video manipulation tools for the Mac, but then I come across this:

Download Smart Converter Pro 1.4.3 Free Trial - Efficient and smart video and music converter for your Mac - Softpedia (http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Video/Smart-Converter-Pro.shtml)

User Rating" poor

What gives?
Is the converted file poor?
Any one else using that who can shed some light on the "poor" performance?

mgmitchell
Jul 16th, 2012, 08:20 PM
Okay, just watched one from iVI and one from SmartConverter (free version). No difference in quality from either, really. Crisper pictures than with Evom. Honest. No burps. The one from Evom last night pooched after about 35 min., the remaining 18 min. watched through the lap top. The video froze. Audio was fine.
Quite happy with both iVI and SC. I'll keep using both to see if there's a clear-cut winner. SC converts much quicker, that's for sure.
/M.

mgmitchell
Dec 2nd, 2012, 03:21 PM
Been several months. I've kept iVI around, but haven't used it at all. Full speed ahead with Smart Converter. Never had an issue. Lightning fast conversions for the most part. A couple of Boardwalk Empire episodes took less than a MINUTE. Wild.