: Another iOS vs Android debate..
MacUnited May 13th, 2012, 09:07 AM So I was browsing the world wide web yesterday and came across a very interesting youtube series of videos, I don't know the guy and he's got a very annoying smug feeling about him, BUT, after taking me through the denial, anger, compromise, phases.. I finally came to the realization, that iOS is falling behind Android.. and fast!!
Think of every annoying little thing that you though, why can't I do that on my phone? turned out that Android users can do!
so, since I have every iDevice out there, and absorbed every aspect of the apple system, it will be like pushing myself out of my comfort zone to try and embrace a new operating system, and what's best but try to put if up for debate and see if I'm missing something, or is Android really that much more flexible, easier to use, and integrated than the iOS??
it's a 5 part series, but you'll get the idea from the first 5 minutes...
[Android Vs iOS The Truth about Apple and Google's OS Part 1 of 5 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMiY1kSTHZw&feature=relmfu)
Dr_AL May 13th, 2012, 09:22 AM The only time I've been frustrated with an iPhone is when I pull out my old iPhone 2g which is still on 1.1.4. That's missing a few features...
The iPhone does everything I need it to, so I don't really care what an android device can or can't do.
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Andrew Pratt May 13th, 2012, 11:05 PM There are still things missing in Android that are in iOS so it isn't a perfect ecosystem and they have a nasty habit of preventing updates unlike our iPhones. Still there are things apple could learn from.
The G3 Man May 13th, 2012, 11:10 PM Sorry; Reliable phone with a solid feel to it; and proper update cycle. Not waiting months for new updates or wondering whether my 6month old iPhone 4S will see the next iOS update or when it will see it. Much prefer that to Android phones; which only are "better" then iPhone because of useless gimmicks; which the average user wouldn't care about
Also 400 devices vs 2?
More realistically in my mind id say 8 iOS devices
non-retina running iOS 4
Non-retina running iOS 5
Retina running iOS 4
Retina running iOS 5
Here’s What Steve Jobs Meant When He Said That Android Is Fragmented | Cult of Mac (http://www.cultofmac.com/166638/heres-what-steve-jobs-meant-when-he-said-that-android-is-fragmented/)
fjnmusic May 14th, 2012, 03:38 AM There is all kinds of cool malware available for Android devices that you can't get for iOS, mainly because those bossy Apple people insist on checking and approving every app first. So inconvenient.
Wondering: can you run iTunes on an Android device? Pretty big deal breaker for me if you can't.
racewalker May 14th, 2012, 10:24 AM A
MacUnited May 14th, 2012, 12:33 PM I guess it's all Steve jobs fault! Getting us all spoiled and expecting nothing less of perfection from any apple products! Hehe
I went to the future shop next door to look at the android phones, and honestly, I just can't get myself to see myself using one!! 2 things that I really hope will be added to the new iOS, ability to attach files from email, as opposed to the other way around. And the ability to have shortcuts! Turning Bluetoot, hotspot on/off, checking usage and all those settings.
The C3 3D maps are just gorgeous!!!!!
dona83 May 14th, 2012, 12:48 PM Android is quick to deliver features that are not tested and at times troublesome. I can't remember how many times I accidentally left Wifi Hotspot on and was left with a dead phone on my afternoon commute. Android's Wifi hotspot feature is a battery hog to begin with, in an hour the battery would be down to 60-70%. iPhone, no less than 80%.
I've always been frustrated numerous times when the Phone app would crash on load... it's a PHONE! Make sure that core app doesn't crash for any reason!
Apple may be slower but when the feature comes, you know it'll work. Of course they've had some follies, location based reminders is a battery hog.
Android is neat and I like the little innovations they bring, but they'll always be like that project car in my driveway, fun but unreliable. iOS is my daily driver.
jhuynh May 14th, 2012, 03:16 PM Trust me, I have an Android phone(have had 3 now) and although you may be able to do more than an iPhone the quality of applications is a lot worse than on iOS. The reason being that developers make tons of trade offs in performance/graphics in order to run on as many android devices as possible. I currently have a Galaxy Nexus and it stutters on simple games such as scramble with friends which isn't even a graphics intensive game.
irontree May 14th, 2012, 07:13 PM I always make the joke that it's a good thing that you can access the batteries on Android devices... how else are you going to be able to turn it off and on when it crashes and freezes?? My wife has had to do this many times with her LG
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Strimkind May 15th, 2012, 11:42 PM Android fragmentation is a combination of licensing agreements, target markets, and cellphone carrier restrictions.
1. Android licenses its OS to many manufacturers who are hotly completing with each other to have the best phone.
2. The target markets of the Android manufacturers vary from the low end (i.e. Samsung Galaxy Gio) to high end smartphones (i.e. Samsung Galaxy S III). Therefore there would be many different Android models available on the market vs Apple who only aims for the high end smartphone market. [I am limiting to smartphones as Apple does not sell any non-smartphones]
3. Apple stood its ground on providing the software updates without the involvement of the cellphone providers. Android didn't have that leverage and has suffered under the restrictions of cellphone carriers providing the updates to each cellphone models.
To summarize, the difference is Apple came in with a specific mind set and Android was open to different ideas. Android is going towards the Apple model for software updates in order to compete with Apple while Apple falls behind in features available on iOS. Although iPhone and iOS are the model to beat, the Android OS is quickly catching up and could pass Apple by in the near future.
(For the record, I own an iPod Touch 4G, and a Samsung Galaxy S II)
MacUnited May 16th, 2012, 09:03 AM At the end of the day, I don't really care about customization and appreciate the fact that the closed iOS environment provide much better control and quality. But apple has to realize that they are not the only player any more. They have to study what android is doing right, and match it. And what android is doing wrong and avoid it.
For example, why on earth would turning hot spot on and off take 5 clicks?
And why can't Siri give turn by turn directions?
chas_m May 20th, 2012, 03:26 AM What Android is doing wrong: copying Apple.
To put it in Tim Cook's words: We love competition, but we want people to invent their own stuff.
fjnmusic Jul 26th, 2012, 11:29 AM One thing Android devices can do that iOS devices can't yet: get hijacked using NFC chips for nefarious purposes.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/hacking-experts-ways-attack-android-025217202.html
crawford Jul 26th, 2012, 04:15 PM I couldn't tell from that article whether the vulnerability was primarily related to the OS or an inherent weakness of NFC.
fjnmusic Jul 26th, 2012, 11:15 PM I couldn't tell from that article whether the vulnerability was primarily related to the OS or an inherent weakness of NFC.
I got the sense that maybe NFC is not quite ready for prime time.
PosterBoy Jul 27th, 2012, 07:16 PM Google does deliver more updates faster, but remember they often only work on a small percentage of phones. Take Android 4 and 4.1, which only run on a handful and have all the cool new features.
Don't get me wrong, Android 4.1 is pretty damn sweet, but when it comes right down to it I'd simply rather give Apple my money than my data to Advertisers.
Pat McCrotch Aug 2nd, 2012, 03:08 PM Android's customization does make for a very helter skelter interface. That being said, in the video that was posted, the author did bring up one thing that really annoys me about iOS: the amount of taps it takes to mess with network related stuff. As the author stated, I used the "widgets" that someone created to access certain network settings (bluetooth, wi-fi etc) and these were simply web shortcuts through safari that automatically took you to a certain setting with a single tap. These shortcuts no longer worked under iOS 5.0 though.
I wish that I could enable bluetooth, or disable wi-fi with on or 2 taps. It would make tethering and other tasks much less tedious. Perhaps we will get some of that functionality in iOS 6
psycosis Aug 2nd, 2012, 03:19 PM I couldn't tell from that article whether the vulnerability was primarily related to the OS or an inherent weakness of NFC.
I think it was the OS as it was fixed in ICS.
psycosis Aug 2nd, 2012, 03:20 PM One thing Android devices can do that iOS devices can't yet: get hijacked using NFC chips for nefarious purposes.
Hacking experts find new ways to attack Android phones - Yahoo! Finance (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/hacking-experts-ways-attack-android-025217202.html)
Bugs and exploits happen. Remember when iOS was jailbreakable by following a link in a webpage?
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