Nobody talking about this yet?

drive.google.com

I am waiting for mine to be activated and I might be able to kill iCloud. Just use it for registration and such.

Supposed to allow offline access. Tonight I will play with syncing my Mac's with Google and I may convert to Google as my primary. Your move Tim.

I worry about Google just getting too much access to too much of a variety of personal information. It's bad enough as it is right now. (Perhaps I'm just turning into a conspiracy theorist.)

Not quite enough for me to migrate away from Dropbox, but some of the collaboration features might get interesting.

I much prefer Dropbox for my current needs.

From what I have read the agreement states that once you put something up there Google owns it. Also you might want to look at all your options. As Microsoft has Skydrive and also released a SkyDrive app for the Mac.

Calm Down Internet: Google Drive's Terms Are The Standard For Countless Websites, Including Gmail | Techdirt (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120424/17562518637/calm-down-internet-google-drives-terms-are-standard-countless-websites-including-gmail.shtml)
Your Content in our Services: When you upload or otherwise submit content to our Services, you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide licence to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting from translations, adaptations or other changes that we make so that your content works better with our Services), communicate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such content. ....The rights that you grant in this licence are for the limited purpose of operating, promoting and improving our Services, and to develop new ones. This licence continues even if you stop using our Services (for example, for a business listing that you have added to Google Maps).


Here is a comparison
Google Drive vs. the competition: pricing plans and perks, compared -- Engadget (http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/24/google-drive-vs-the-competition-dropbox-skydrive-icloud/)

I worry about Google just getting too much access to too much of a variety of personal information. It's bad enough as it is right now. (Perhaps I'm just turning into a conspiracy theorist.)

You're not the only one that worries. I went to Youtube one day to try and watch a video, but had to log in. Apparently my old account doesn't work now because you have to have it connected to a Google account. Needless to say, I didn't watch my video. I really just want access to Youtube.

You're not the only one that worries. I went to Youtube one day to try and watch a video, but had to log in. Apparently my old account doesn't work now because you have to have it connected to a Google account. Needless to say, I didn't watch my video. I really just want access to Youtube.

There is a reason why Instagram was purchased for 1 Billion $$$$$$$$$. :greedy::greedy: The name of the game has always been how many email addressed can I get.

From what I have read the agreement states that once you put something up there Google owns it.

Whoa! Gonna have to take a second look!

Some good points for and against the tinfoil hat...lol

Dropbox would work on the Playbook I asked for on my birthday. 80)

I'm not sure how any of this is different from Facebook's own policies. They're both somewhat - ahem - predatory when it comes to user data.

Anyway, if you're suspicious of G Drive, don't use it. There are many other cloud options out there. As always, it's good to read the fine print (not that most people ever do).

From what I have read the agreement states that once you put something up there Google owns it.

Where did you read that?

Where did you read that?

Pulled directly from the terms of use...

Your Content in our Services

Some of our Services allow you to submit content. You retain ownership of any intellectual property rights that you hold in that content. In short, what belongs to you stays yours.

When you upload or otherwise submit content to our Services, you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting from translations, adaptations or other changes we make so that your content works better with our Services), communicate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such content. The rights you grant in this license are for the limited purpose of operating, promoting, and improving our Services, and to develop new ones. This license continues even if you stop using our Services (for example, for a business listing you have added to Google Maps). Some Services may offer you ways to access and remove content that has been provided to that Service. Also, in some of our Services, there are terms or settings that narrow the scope of our use of the content submitted in those Services. Make sure you have the necessary rights to grant us this license for any content that you submit to our Services.

---end---

In short, you own your content but Google has the right to read, review, modify, use, redistribute as they see fit. Mind you Google says it's only supposed to be for promoting and improving their service but that could be fairly broad and is in perpetuity. Should Google change their terms, you can't really opt out on files you've already provided. It would be pretty stupid of Google to do, but how would you like to see your content in a Google ad? Beyond this, non-disclosure agreements would prohibit the use of services that allow anyone to even peek at the data in shared files.

The ToS grants Google many rights, but ownership (especially in perpetuity) is not one of them. I am not a lawyer, but the license that users are granting Google is more or less the same as most cloud-based services these days.

However, what Google actually does with those rights may be a different matter and have greater implications than other other services (but that's a different discussion).

And since Google has the right to do what they will, who is actually viewing what's in your files and what's to stop them as individuals from deriving some personal benefit from any uncovered information.

Just be aware of what storing your files, even temporarily, on the service means.

No company providing online storage can ensure with 100% certainty that my data won't be touched. An agreement won't stop a rogue employee. Do I think google has someone looking through my files for information? No

We can talk about the terms until we are blue in the face but since most of us aren't lawyers we are essentially discussing our interpretation.

I think either way we are safe from google stealing out data. It's the others we have to worry about...

Why are we safe from Google stealing our data? I don't get it. They're not immune from abuses of client data... when you get down to it, what business is?

The question is do you trust the companies google does business with?

Your Content in our Services: When you upload or otherwise submit content to our Services, you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide licence to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting from translations, adaptations or other changes that we make so that your content works better with our Services), communicate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such content. ....The rights that you grant in this licence are for the limited purpose of operating, promoting and improving our Services, and to develop new ones. This licence continues even if you stop using our Services (for example, for a business listing that you have added to Google Maps).

No more so than I trust Facebook's ad clients with my data.

Hosting your data on a company that has its servers located in America brings up the other privacy issue: the Patriot Act.

Opponents of the law have criticized its authorization of indefinite detentions of immigrants; searches through which law enforcement officers search a home or business without the owner’s or the occupant’s permission or knowledge; the expanded use of National Security Letters, which allows the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) to search telephone, e-mail, and financial records without a court order, and the expanded access of law enforcement agencies to business records, including library and financial records.

Patriot Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act)

Hosting your data on a company that has its servers located in America brings up the other privacy issue: the Patriot Act.



Patriot Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act)

What's the alternative, Russian hosts? China? :lmao:

Does anyone seriously believe Canadian security agencies aren't also monitoring internet traffic?

Does anyone seriously believe Canadian security agencies aren't also monitoring internet traffic?

And for that matter, US authorities too?

Does anyone seriously believe Canadian security agencies aren't also monitoring internet traffic?

Hosting your data on a company that has its servers located in America brings up the other privacy issue: the Patriot Act.



Patriot Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act)

Not worried about Patriot Act.

Not worried about government doing something with my stuff because I am doing nothing illegal so no worries. What I am worried about is scum doing something illegal or profiting from my stuff.

I worry about Google just getting too much access to too much of a variety of personal information. It's bad enough as it is right now. (Perhaps I'm just turning into a conspiracy theorist.)

+1
sorry but dropbox is good enough for me.. I am up to 5 GB.. also I have had enough of google trying to read and keep track of everything I do..
God knows what ever you put in google drive they will make a copy and then tell congress again we have all this info and data, what do we do with it? Just like they did with people's wifis when they were doing street view mapping.. [ if your mapping, why are you snooping ? ] they can not be trusted..
proven tack record of that..

+1
sorry but dropbox is good enough for me.. I am up to 5 GB.. also I have had enough of google trying to read and keep track of everything I do..
God knows what ever you put in google drive they will make a copy and then tell congress again we have all this info and data, what do we do with it? Just like they did with people's wifis when they were doing street view mapping.. [ if your mapping, why are you snooping ? ] they can not be trusted..
proven tack record of that..

We need a tinfoil hat Smilies... :lmao:

I am NOT saying it is better, but Wuala's data centers are all located in Europe (Switzerland, Germany, France). Wuala is part of LaCie and is based in Switzerland.

Both Wuala and SpiderOak use client-side encryption and you hold the key, so your data is not accessible by vendor staff or US authorities. I am splitting my storage between Dropbox and SpiderOak these days.

I am NOT saying it is better, but Wuala's data centers are all located in Europe (Switzerland, Germany, France). Wuala is part of LaCie and is based in Switzerland.

That does m=not make a difference. As long as the domain name is something controlled by ICANN (.com. .net, .org, .gov, .biz, .xxx etc.), irrespective of where the servers physically are, the US can and does have jurisdiction and does exercise its right.

Cheers

Now that is interesting (client side encryption)

My previous post on this: http://www.ehmac.ca/showthread.php?t=100030

Including referral links to both SpiderOak and Wuala.

Amazon released apps for Mac and Windows for their could service.

Amazon outs Cloud Drive desktop app for Windows and Mac, allows easy access to your digital wares -- Engadget (http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/02/amazon-cloud-drive-desktop-app/)