$200 is a crazy estimate! VirtualBox is FREE and is really decent at running a basic Windows install (that'll get you IE!)... If not VMWare is $80, and I've seen it for less. You can pick up a copy of XP on Craigslist or eBay for anywhere from $10-30, you may even have a valid license on your dead PC you can transfer for FREE!
Not a completely crazy estimate if you want to run VMWare Fusion (more capable and reliable from all reports than VirtualBox) and would like a working, valid copy of Windows. I never advise people to buy Windows OS' off eBay/Craigslist - they're more likely than not to be pirated. And unless Funkynassau had put a new version of Windows on that PC that died, it's pretty likely the OS was OEM and can't be transferred.
NOTE: Just checked and VMWare Fusion is available until March 15 for $49 after a $30 rebate.
As for getting into the Canadian site with Safari, pm-r - that IS the site that Funkynassau was trying to access and her husband's login/pw were not working on any browser she tried, including Safari. Something's weird. Maybe you should try getting a new PW & login at the US site, like pm-r did, Funkynassau. Can't hurt to try.
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2.8GHz MacPro, 2.6GHz i7 hi-rez 2012 15" MBP and a bunch of other Macs and i-things
This URL and display thing is completely bizarre!! - at least on my Mac.
The URL that Funkynassau posted in #5 and also the same in one of my replies previously was showing as "http://pc.dupont.com/", and now when I go back and check they are now diplaying as "http://dpcprd.asp.dupont.com/bowstreet5/webengine/dpc/common/Controller"
The previous URL was a different site.
I'm not sure how to make the URL as text only so that it doesn't get 'resolved' so here's the modified text version with * replacing the 't'.
h**p://pc.dupont.com/ as originally displayed and
h**p://dpcprd.asp.dupont.com/bowstreet5/webengine/dpc/common/Controller as it's now showing and linking.
Maybe something now lingering in my Safari history or cookies etc. causing the change???
And from the email I received:
"Welcome to the DuPont Performance Coatings web site *Thank you for registering with us. *Your application has been processed and approved. *To log into the site, go to <http://www.performancecoatings.dupont.com>DuPont Performance Coatings USA Home Page | DuPont Performance Coatings - appp20.asp.dupont.com *enter your Member LOGIN and PASSWORD in the spaces provided, and click GO."
But if you want something ridiculous, in their long email they then start off with:
"If you have any problems logging in to the site or do not recall your password, please contact us at the above address.
Here are some tips for accessing and using the Performance Coatings Web site. *..."
a long list of things to do or not do, and finally ends with
"Revised 6/14/2004"
Ho folks,
I have read all of the posts in the last day or so, so I am caught up on your many thoughts and ideas, tho some of the stuff is over my head. Let me bring you up to date on this thorny subject.
Hubby talked to the Dupont rep and she maintains she can get into the site at home on her own Mac. They use PCs at work. She also maintains the techs use iPhones and can get into the site no problem and they say we should be able to get in on a Mac and on a cell phone. So far we have tried 5 different Mac laptops and desktops and 6 cell phones!
Today I had a measure of success when I got a friend to try the site on an old G3 desktop and he had an old IE, v. 5.1 I think, which is what he used, and sure enough he got past that page where we were all stuck, and the following pages is a licence agreement you have to accept in order to move on. I accepted it, and got to the next page which is the formula page, the only page on the site hubby needs to get into. All of the other pages in various categories work just fine. So when I saw myself at the formula page I figured I had hit paydirt!
I came home and downloaded IE 5.2x onto my G4 Quciksilver desktop and it would not work at all, and I deleted it. Then I tried it on two iBooks that we have and damn! It worked! I got past the licence agreement and into the formula page, entered a paint code, and hit Scan and there it sat. I was shattered, I thought I had it.
So, I have no proof I could have successfully gotten a formula on my friend's Mac earlier today, maybe I could have, maybe not. But on my two iBooks I struck out. I have one more friend here with an iBook and he is going to try it for me too.
I went to the Bell cell phone place and tried the link on two different phones and it would not work. Could not get to the licence agreement page. The two clerks didnt know how to proceed, so we left it at that.
My theory is the people at Dupont that claim this site works well dont actually have to go into the formula page, they may never have even looked at it, and since the other links all work for them and for us, they think all is kosher. Well it's not. The one !@#$%^& page we need, we cant access.
Hubby found a deal on a Sony Vaio laptop today, and that is our last resort to have to buy that, we completely resent the need to spend money on yet another computer, we have 6 of them already, all because they cant make their site work right. Ok, end of rant!
Funkynassau, I would seriously suggest you contact Du Pont again and relay all and maybe even more details that you have posted here. and maybe even include your User ID and password being used and see if some Mac user there can actually access the data that you need, and also confirm the URL site to use in case it differs for US or Canadian access.
Or as I suggested previously, use another more Mac friendly paint company as most, at least they used to have, a cross reference color database which I gather is what you are needing and wanting.
But I'm 12+ years out of such stuff now and things have probably changed a fair bit lately. ;-)
A person would have to understand how the govt. has changed paint in the recent years, solvent based is no more in the auto industry. Hubby will need Dupont's website for probably several more years. He also has an account with a water based paint co., and their site works fine on any computer! At least he's got one he can use successfully. Changing from Dupont to another co. is not an option, we are stuck with them.
Oh absolutely we are not done discussing this with Dupont! About two yrs ago I went thru this mess with a guy there on the phone and he never once asked if I was on a PC using IE. When I finally said (after using my Mac for most of the chat) let me try hubby's pc, he said oh this doesnt work on a Mac! I said I wish I'd known that 75 mins ago. So I used FireFox because that's what he mostly used, and it didnt work with it either! Finally the guy said I needed to use IF! Then it worked. He said he'd talk to the tech dept. about making it Mac compatible. Maybe he never told them or if he did, they didnt pay attention.
Hubby used an old school fiche machine for more years than he could count and it worked just fine, it was fast, convenient and he had zero complaints. Then they stopped making fiche cards! He has the chip books and formulas in the books but they are becoming out of date and everything has been switched to computers or you can call them, which is another pain in the butt.
Oh yeah, we have lots to talk to them about! I hope they plan to pay attention because I am not going to back down til this is resolved.
I wish you success with your mission and I would suggest that there are others with the same problem, both Mac and Winbox users, considering the age and non-compliance of their site.
I guess Hubby could just use the closest color match he has for the government jobs and if anyone notices or complains, then just be like all of the government bureaucrats who never take any responsibility and just put the screwup blame onto someone else and point fingers.
OK, enough on politics and back to our regular Mac program topics... ;-)
The buck stops with hubby, he wouldn't blame anyone else.
So, I went to the computer store to check out this Sony Vaio that could work for hubby. I know the guy there, so we discussed the problems. He said the site is so out of date it's not funny. He tried it on the first laptop, and it would not load, it bogs down at the same place as it does on our Macs. The second laptop it did work on,, and that one has IE7 on it and current windoze updates. I was blown away it actually worked. The Vaio we may buy belongs to the owner of the store and it was not there to try, so I'll be back on Friday to see how it performs.
I am so sick of this, Dupont should be ashamed of themselves.
Just a small update. I wrote a detailed email to Dupont yest. outlining the whole problem and all the things I have done to remedy it. It was not a short email I pointed out we've called many times with no return calls from the IT dept. and hubby had emailed and gotten no reply. I said the courtesy of a reply would be appreciated.
Today we got an email from an alleged tech there who said they are looking into this and history shows there have been NO problems with Mac computers! Well all I can do is laugh at that or I'd cry. What BS.
I'll email them again tomorrow if there's no further updates from them. I think they dont have the guts to phone me because they know they have a screwed up site, and they dont want to actually talk about it.
My son is bringing his Sony Vaio here tonite so we'll try Dupont on there and see how far we get.
I was shattered, I thought I had it.
I pointed out we've called many times with no return calls from the IT dept. and hubby had emailed and gotten no reply. I said the courtesy of a reply would be appreciated.
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