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Old Feb 25th, 2011, 12:02 AM   #81
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I just ordered one of the new ones (first MBP): I went with the 500GB 7200rpm option, but do you think it's worth it to get the 128GB SSD instead for $100 and then just swap out the optical drive for a larger 7200rpm drive for data storage?

I don't really need a whole lot of extra storage space, as I have a NAS in the house that has tons of space.
If you're ordering the lower-end 2.0Ghz MBP, then I'd say get it with the base-model HDD and then take the $100 you would have spent on the 7200RPM upgrade and pair it with another ~$80 or so and get yourself a decent 128GB SSD.

That's just MHO, but $100 for a 5400 to 7200RPM upgrade it rubbish. You can get a whole 500GB 7200RPM HDD for ~$53 these days and then you'd ALSO have the 5400RPM one from inside your MBP as a backup drive or to sell and recoup the cost of the faster HDD/SSD.

And if these new MBPs are anything like the last gen-design, they're super-easy to swap the HDDs for a SSD or faster/bigger HDD:

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Old Feb 25th, 2011, 07:03 AM   #82
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So.... What does everyone think of the new MacBook Pro's?

Hit or miss?

Anyone order one yet?
I'd say "Hit". Not a major upgrade but certainly more than a minor speed bump. Its not enough to get me to part with my late 2009 13" however. The lure of an i5 or i7 is enticing, but I think I'll hold on to mine until it gets a complete makeover.
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Old Feb 25th, 2011, 07:26 AM   #83
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Glad I won't have the cash for a 13" until the spring. Now I just have to decide if I want the i5 or the i7 (and hope for another back to school bundle). That'll give others a chance to post various reviews and tests, to see what these babies can do.

Can't wait for the sprinig
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Old Feb 25th, 2011, 08:17 AM   #84
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The non-user replaceable batteries have been standard for the last 18 months.

However, you CAN replace them yourself if you (a)aren't afraid of taking your MBP apart and potentially voiding the warranty and (b) have the necessary tools and a battery (the latter being hard to find!)

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I have to say that if you're replacing the battery yourself it's likely that you don't have a warranty any longer ... because if you do you can likely get the battery replaced under warranty so there's likely not a big concern about voiding said warranty
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It depends. The warranty only covers defective battery replacement, not those needing replacement because they've just worn out under use.

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So given that, it IS possible that your battery could wear out from a whole lot of use before AppleCare runs out, which would leave you in the position of having to either pay Apple or attempt the replacement yourself.

If you do manage to wear out your battery at least Apple charges a reasonable $139 installed for a new one.

Apple - Support - Replacing the Battery in your MacBook Pro (Models with built-in batteries)

When the new technology non-removable battery was implemented in June '09 Apple began to advertise 1000 charging cycles (about 3 times more than previous batteries).

Apple - MacBook Pro - A notebook full of innovations.

FWIW, my June '09 13" MBP still has 90% of its original battery capacity (according to coconut battery) after 20 months of use, so the new style non-removeable batteries seem to be pretty good IMHO.
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Old Feb 25th, 2011, 08:40 AM   #85
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FWIW, my June '09 13" MBP still has 90% of its original battery capacity (according to coconut battery) after 20 months of use, so the new style non-removeable batteries seem to be pretty good IMHO.
Good to know - my 2007 MBP needed a new battery after slightly less than 3 years, so I wasn't sure how the new ones compared in longevity.
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If you're ordering the lower-end 2.0Ghz MBP, then I'd say get it with the base-model HDD and then take the $100 you would have spent on the 7200RPM upgrade and pair it with another ~$80 or so and get yourself a decent 128GB SSD.

That's just MHO, but $100 for a 5400 to 7200RPM upgrade it rubbish. You can get a whole 500GB 7200RPM HDD for ~$53 these days and then you'd ALSO have the 5400RPM one from inside your MBP as a backup drive or to sell and recoup the cost of the faster HDD/SSD.

And if these new MBPs are anything like the last gen-design, they're super-easy to swap the HDDs for a SSD or faster/bigger HDD:

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I ordered the 2.2GHz MBP 15 one, so I chose the free upgrade to the 500GB 7200rpm from the 750GB 5400rpm, but just wondering if in this model if I should have gone with the extra $100 for the 128GB SSD instead, and then just pick up more storage for the optical bay area later on as I needed space.
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If you're ordering the lower-end 2.0Ghz MBP, then I'd say get it with the base-model HDD and then take the $100 you would have spent on the 7200RPM upgrade and pair it with another ~$80 or so and get yourself a decent 128GB SSD.
Do you know what SSDs are going into these MBPs? So long as they are SandForce it may not be worth voiding your warranty (especially if buying Apple Care) to to get slightly better performance.
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Old Feb 25th, 2011, 11:52 AM   #88
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Do you know what SSDs are going into these MBPs? So long as they are SandForce it may not be worth voiding your warranty (especially if buying Apple Care) to to get slightly better performance.
I doubt they are sandforce. They are probably the same ones in the 2010 MBPs, the Toshiba ones.

Here's some info about the 256GB model on Macrumors:

Apple seems to have quietly "upgraded" the stock 256GB SSD - MacRumors Forums

Seems to perform around Vertex 1, X-25M territory. Not terrible, but not awesome.

Unless they are using the Samsung controller that's in the 2010 MBA's - that gets faster read/writes. Only time (and more reviews) will tell.

So far not even the people at MR know:

What kind of SSD in macbook pro 2011? - MacRumors Forums

Also, swapping a HDD in the 2010 MBPs didn't void your warranty (hell, an Apple Genius helped me get a final stubborn screw out one time). Apple of course won't warranty a non-Apple-purchased drive, but if there's ever a problem with the machine, you can swap your old HDD back in there and away you go.
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...Also, swapping a HDD in the 2010 MBPs didn't void your warranty (hell, an Apple Genius helped me get a final stubborn screw out one time). Apple of course won't warranty a non-Apple-purchased drive, but if there's ever a problem with the machine, you can swap your old HDD back in there and away you go.
True enough...
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Yeah that's been a popular upgrade an OWX extreme 256 and the old drive in a bootable case.
A couple have opted for the optical bay solution as well.
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