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Old Apr 21st, 2010, 05:45 PM   #1
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Adobe fights back... finds ally in Google

This is a thread that could be in both the iPhone and iPad section but I think rightfully because of its scope belongs in this thread...

Adobe scraps work to bring Flash apps to iPhone

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What a difference two weeks and a few words of legalese can make to the future of a widely used programming technology.

In that span of time, Adobe Systems has gone from touting its technology for building Flash applications that run on the iPhone to canceling future development of that technology.

When Apple changed the terms of its iPhone 4.0 software developer kit license, it effectively blocked Adobe's move. But in his Tuesday announcement that Adobe will cease future development of the Flash-apps-on-iPhone technology, Mike Chambers, Adobe's principal product manager for the Flash platform, let loose a tirade that indicates the battle between the two companies isn't over yet.
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Adobe takes the matter seriously. It disclosed in a regulatory filing that its business could be harmed if the iPhone and iPad don't support Adobe technology. And Adobe could be considering legal action against Apple, too, according to one report.
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"Someone has it backwards--it is HTML5, CSS, JavaScript, and H.264 (all supported by the iPhone and iPad) that are open and standard, while Adobe's Flash is closed and proprietary," said spokeswoman Trudy Muller in a statement.
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"Fortunately, the iPhone isn't the only game in town. Android based phones have been doing well behind the success of the Motorola Droid and Nexus One, and there are a number of Android based tablets slated to be released this year. We are working closely with Google to bring both Flash Player 10.1 and Adobe AIR 2.0 to these devices, and thus far, the results have been very promising," Chambers said.

Google is a willing ally, too, as evidenced by a Wednesday blog post from Andy Rubin, vice president of engineering for the Android effort, on Adobe's Web site.

"Google believes that developers should have their choice of tools and technologies to create applications. By supporting Adobe AIR on Android we hope that millions of creative designers and developers will be able to express themselves more freely when they create applications for Android devices. More broadly, AIR will foster rapid and continuous innovation across the mobile ecosystem. Google is happy to be partnering with Adobe to bring the full Web, great applications, and developer choice to the Android platform."
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Rhetoric can have teeth, and Adobe clearly hopes to give Apple a bad reputation among programmers. Chambers, a programmer himself, is directing his own attention toward Android.

"I think that the closed system that Apple is trying to create is bad for the industry, developers, and ultimately consumers, and that is not something that I want to actively promote," Chambers said. "We are at the beginning of a significant change in the industry, and I believe that ultimately open platforms will win out over the type of closed, locked-down platform that Apple is trying to create."
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Old Apr 21st, 2010, 06:12 PM   #2
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Flash is important, Apple is stupid.
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Flash is important, Apple is stupid.
Ok...... and your reason's.... If this were an essay question you would get a..... FAIL.
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Old Apr 21st, 2010, 07:02 PM   #4
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Flash is important to whom? I can live without it, and I'll bet so can you. The word here is "progress" as opposed to "regress." Unless of course a lack of flash will curtail your porn enjoyment.
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Now, do not go picking on PORN, there are pop ups and ads that we may miss without flash!!!
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Flash is important to whom? I can live without it, and I'll bet so can you. The word here is "progress" as opposed to "regress." Unless of course a lack of flash will curtail your porn enjoyment.
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"Google believes that developers should have their choice of tools and technologies to create applications."

OK, I am not a programmer, so my analogy may be wrong - Google should ask Microsoft to support Cocoa so that Mac developers can make really nice software for Windows

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Adobe takes the matter seriously. It disclosed in a regulatory filing that its business could be harmed if the iPhone and iPad don't support Adobe technology. And Adobe could be considering legal action against Apple, too, according to one report.
Ok, this is where things go off the rails, logically. That's like the flour mill complaining that the bakery didn't buy flour from them and therefore they're going to go out of business. Yup - they might. But they sure as heck can't sue the bakery for this. Apple is free to support whatever technology it wants - you cannot force them to support Flash! Indeed - it is like telling Microsoft to support Cocoa.
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Old Apr 21st, 2010, 08:48 PM   #9
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I think both company's have their issues. Apple has moved onto selling overpriced toys as computers, and awesome Phones, which lack Flash due to Adobe being a SOB. I got tired of Flash fail on my Mac. Now on my PC, my cpu barely breaks a sweat, and plays wonderfully. Now to get an i5 PC. Im planning on getting an iPad or ThinkPad to replace my Power/MacBook. iPad only if it gets flash, and can play it well, by the summer.

Both company's need to grow up.
For now ill stick with My PC, Windows 7, and my third gen 20gb iPod.

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Apple a closed system... because they support industry standards instead of buggy, crappy flash? Yeah....

Adobe isn't upset because its a closed system, they're upset because it isn't their system.
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