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Old Dec 22nd, 2004, 10:43 AM   #1
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I'm looking for a "mother friendly" digital camera. She's going on a big trip in March and would love to take a ton of pictures.

I'm interested in a 5MP, 3x optical zoom with a great all-around lens. For the most part, I expect hundreds of pictures of this trip and then probably hundreds of pictures of her cat, my sister, family, etc. (very general use.)

I'm looking at the HP r707 and the Sony DSCP93.

Does anyone have some experience or advice on these two choices?

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r707 Specs:
35mm Equivalent Zoom
39mm - 117mm

AC Adapter
Yes

Aperture Range
f/2.8 - f/4.8 (W); f/4.9 - f/8.4 (T)

Audio
Yes

Auto OFF Mode
Yes

Autofocus System
Normal, Macro, Infinity, Manual

Battery Type
Lithium-Ion

Built-In or External Flash
Built-In

Burst Mode
Yes

Computer Compatibility
Windows, Mac

Digital Media Type
Secure Digital

Digital Sensor Size
1/1.8"

Digital Zoom
8X

Effective Image Size of Digital Sensor
Info Not Available

Exposure Compensation
+/- 2EV In 1/3 Steps

Exposure Metering System
TTL

File Formats
JPEG, MPEG-1

Flash Range
8.9'

Focus Range
1.6' - Infinity

Included Digital Media Size
No

Included In Box
Battery, AC Adapter, Manual; See Below

Interface
USB

Internal Memory
32MB

ISO Rating
100/200/400

LCD Monitor Size
1.5"

Movie Mode
Yes

Optical Zoom
3X

Playback Menu
Yes

Product Dimensions
9.6(W) x 6.0(H) x 3.5(D) cm

Product Weight
500 g

Self-Timer
Yes

Shutter Speed
16 - 1/2000 Seconds

Video Output
Info Not Available

Viewfinder Type
Optical

Warranty
1 Year Parts & Labour
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DSCP93 Specs

35mm Equivalent Zoom
38mm - 114mm

AC Adapter
No

Aperture Range
f/2.8 - f/10

Audio
Yes

Auto OFF Mode
Yes

Autofocus System
Multi-Point AF

Battery Type
2 x "AA" Batteries

Built-In or External Flash
Built-In

Burst Mode
1.6fps

Computer Compatibility
Windows 98/2000/ME/XP; MacOS9.1/OSX

Digital Media Type
Memory Stick

Digital Sensor Size
5.1MP

Digital Zoom
4X

Effective Image Size of Digital Sensor
5.1MP

Exposure Compensation
+/-2.0EV in 1/3 Steps

Exposure Metering System
Multi-Pattern, Spotlight

File Formats
JPEG, MPEG

Flash Range
1.6' - 12.5'

Focus Range
3.9" - 19.7"

Included Digital Media Size
32MB

Included In Box
See The Features Section

Interface
USB 2.0

Internal Memory
No

ISO Rating
100/200/400/Auto

LCD Monitor Size
1.5"

Movie Mode
Yes

Optical Zoom
3X

Playback Menu
Yes

Product Dimensions
11.7(W) x 5.4(H) x 3.6(D) cm

Product Weight
236 g

Self-Timer
10 Seconds

Shutter Speed
1/8 - 1/1000 Seconds

Video Output
A/V MOno

Viewfinder Type
Optical

Warranty
1 Year Parts & Labour
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Old Dec 22nd, 2004, 11:51 AM   #2
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I don't know much about the HP lens but the Sony lenses are one of the best in the digital camera "world"-Carl Zeiss lenses.

Go here for lots of camera reviews and info.
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Old Dec 22nd, 2004, 12:04 PM   #3
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I know the Carl Zeiss lenses are very good, but they're significantly more $$$$.

I've looked at several sites and they all seem to like both cameras equally. One has USB 2.0 and better batttery (Sony), but I'm not sure on the "Sony Lense."

I'm hoping other people here can share their experiences with either camera or their opinions.
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Old Dec 22nd, 2004, 10:08 PM   #4
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i bought a canon elph recently after much mulling around. i dunno -- for simple non-pro shooting, i'm pretty thrilled with what i got, and it fits in my pocket. i've even used it for promo material, and the shots have turned out great, even when blown up (within reason). my $0.015
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Old Dec 23rd, 2004, 02:53 AM   #5
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Stay off HP - they suck.
Sony is okay but Kodak do real user friendly and look at Panasonic as well.

What is she going to store them on????
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Old Dec 23rd, 2004, 10:36 AM   #6
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Well, I say the HP

Check the reviews. Sorry MacDoc, the R707 just doesn't suck. Finding a bad review of it is hard. We have one. Fantastic value at $329 (Staples). The form factor is very nice.

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i'd say sony, over the hp. better battery life, nice user interface, solid feel (the tripod screw on the bottom of the hp falls apart very easily) and decent reviews all around.
I believe the HP user interface for their latest Dig Cameras to be among the best I have used. Very simple and very logical, with lots of options. The camera is well built and in my view (and those of most reviewers) the quality of the photos matches or exceeds most competitors.

For a 5.1 MP camera it's hard to do better. Works perfectly with iPhoto or, obviously Image Capture.

I believe some of the older HP cameras were pretty average, but the R607 and R707 have been well received.

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Bottom line - the HP PhotoSmart R707 is an affordable, compact entry-level camera. At the time of this review (June 2004), the HP R707 is an amazing deal for a 5-megapixel camera with a street price of just $349. Couple that with the versatile R-series Camera Dock (about $79 which includes a 2nd rechargeable battery), and you have an even better deal. With the ease of its red-eye removal and the unique Adaptive lighting enhancements, this is a great camera for any user regardless of their experience level.
PC Mag 3.5 / 4

Me: 4 out of 5.

I also like the Sony's and Nikons in the same class. But to say the HP sucks, well, that's an opinion I'll choose to differ with.
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Old Dec 23rd, 2004, 12:54 PM   #7
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i too bought a new canon sd300 elph to replace my one year old sd100 elph.
just bought it today from work.

i'd say sony, over the hp. better battery life, nice user interface, solid feel (the tripod screw on the bottom of the hp falls apart very easily) and decent reviews all around.

are those your only two choices? how about a canon a85? sd200/300? olympus stylus 410? all are "mother friendly" and are more cost-effective than the sony...
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Old Dec 23rd, 2004, 12:59 PM   #8
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I'd say the Sony over HP (HP is a printer company, not a camera company) and Canon over either of them. I have a Sony digicam now and have used Canons extensively. I much prefer the Canon lens for sharpness and overall picture quality.
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actually, the Carl-Zeiss lenses on Sonys aren't even made by Zeiss. they're Sony -made, and then approved by Zeiss, but how strict this approval method is....who knows. but yea, it's not real Zeiss, just Zeiss labelled. [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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look at the panasonics: leica lenses!

i just bought a nikon 4100, great deal, 4mp. and nikon's warranty is the best in the business: 2 years.

the equivalent model in a 5mp would be great i'm sure. but for snapshots (sending by email or printing up to 8x10), 4mp should be more than enough. mine is really easy to use, was only $300 at black's, and comes with a bonus package for 25 free digital prints, etc.

i really appreciate nikon quality in both film and digital [img]smile.gif[/img]
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