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Old Dec 12th, 2004, 01:17 PM   #11
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Wanna buy it back lindmar? LOL I am *hopefully* getting a USB audio preamp thingy anyway. I like the JBL creatures and I almost bought them in Detroit the other day. $99US with exchange and 5% tax made them an attractive deal but I put them on the Christmas list so free is even better.

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Old Dec 12th, 2004, 01:36 PM   #12
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okay...encore betrayal of ignorance, but...

what's an MDD?
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Old Dec 12th, 2004, 02:30 PM   #13
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the MDDs are LOUD
They have to be heard to be believed. The first month I spent with mine, was spent researching ways to quiet it down. They're also known as 'wind tunnels'. If you haven't already, have a look at G4 Noise for more info.

That said, if you put the CPU on the floor or so it's not right ontop of you, it's not as bad.

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Old Dec 12th, 2004, 02:42 PM   #14
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I Guyss, I'll see in a few weeks..
Either way, I can always sell it and get something else... [img]tongue.gif[/img]

It will have 2 gigs of ram, 320 Gig HD SPace, DVD-108 Burner, ATI Radeon 9600 Pro

We'll see soon enough!
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Old Dec 12th, 2004, 02:43 PM   #15
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Toca Loca Nation, MDD = "Mirrored Drive Doors"



The last of the six (depending on how you count them) Mac G4 series featured chrome doors on its dual optical drive bays.

There were quite a few different G4 models introduced - most people don't know just how many there were. FWIW - here is a concise list of the different G4 issues (not including the different processor speeds and combos of each issue)

G4 "PCI Graphics" (Yikes!)
G4 "AGP Graphics" (Sawtooth)
G4 "Gigabit Ethernet"
G4 "Digital Audio"
G4 "Quicksilver"
G4 "Quicksilver 2002"
G4 "Mirrored Drive Doors" (MDD)
G4 "FireWire800" (MDD OSX only)
G4 "Mirrored Drive Doors 2003" (MDD dual boot)

Lindmar, I had two MDD 1.25s. Both had bad interference on the built-in audio - worse than my old B&W G3 - and louder fans. The built-in audio on our PowerBook replacement is much better. In the remaining MDD I use an audio card. Don't get me wrong - I think this is a great computer - unfortunately, Apple did a poor job with the sonic aspects of this design. They addressed these issues with the G5.
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Old Dec 12th, 2004, 03:23 PM   #16
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Another FWIW,

here is a really cheap (like me) solution I came up with for isolating the Mac; in this case - a B&W. i simply put the computer in the closet and made the shelving so that it channels cool air into the compartment while hot air is piped out. It uses only the Mac's built-in fan(s) to keep air circulating and has worked for several years without a hitch even on the hottest summer days - even with the new MDD - although I had to put in a proper door and wire an extra fan into the exhaust duct. Another bonus is that the computer chassis never gathers dust! My Macs insides stay squeaky clean - and they are also very easy to access (for servicing or upgrading) while the CD/DVD trays also remain accessible.



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Old Dec 12th, 2004, 03:59 PM   #17
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We'll see.

The seller has said that the noise hasnt been so loud its bothered him..

If it comes to where I have to lock my Mac in a closet, I wouldnt want it..
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Old Dec 12th, 2004, 04:45 PM   #18
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I have a pair of Logitech X-220's from Canada Computers
They are listed for $29.99 cad at the moment and work great with my eMac.
I'm thinking of getting a second set for my Sawtooth. [img]smile.gif[/img]



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Old Dec 12th, 2004, 06:58 PM   #19
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Re: loudness - I got the free power supply update from Apple so my computer is now quiet except I have 4 drives in it which can make it noisier so I put the three drives to sleep and leave my main one going only.

Maybe you got lucky and the seller upgraded the power supply.
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Old Dec 13th, 2004, 09:48 AM   #20
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" ... old soundblaster 16 ISA sound card on my pc, which probably doesn't sound any better that the audio on a MDD ..."

Ouch! If I owned a Mac that sounded that bad I would probably sue somebody

Built-in Audio isn't the last word in DA converters, but it's not that bad, especially for playback (recording quality is the main shortfall on pre-G5 PPC Macs).

Those old SB cards often tested out at 9 or 10 bit resolution (on 16 bit files) before they became unglued (54-60 dB S/N). The MDD can probably resolve 14 bits cleanly (ie 82 dB S/N of a possible 96 dB).
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