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Old Sep 15th, 2009, 11:56 PM   #1
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upgrading hard drive in Imac

As mentioned in an earlier thread, I am out of space on my hard drive on my 2007 aluminum imac (320gb) . The key culprits are iphoto for about 170Gb and Itunes for about 70Gb. My attempt to run iphoto off my time capsule wireless worked but was too slow to be useful. I expect itunes will be O.K. for music but not for video. ( I'm dissapointed that time capsule is not better able to act as a media server, but so it goes. ) But even then it only delays the inevitable as my iphoto library grows. I have tested and iphoto works fine off a wired external drive, bu then I'm trying to keep desktop noise and clutter down, part of why I have a Mac in the first place. I may decide to throw a larger ( 1T?) drive into this imac instead. I'm willing to pay the shop to put in the new drive after looking at pics of one of these beasties opened up. But I'm not very interested in paying for data transfer to the new drive. I am working on a strategy for the move. I have an external I can CCC my existing drive to, if I do that, can I then boot the machine with a new drive in it from this external drive, CCC the external to the new internal drive and then be all good? If so, how do I boot from the external? Suggestions for better way to accomplish this task?
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Old Sep 16th, 2009, 12:05 AM   #2
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Installing the drive into the Aluminum iMacs is a pain without the proper equipment. Taking it to the shop is a good idea.

As for data transfer, you can boot off a USB or FireWire external drive that you've cloned to, then simply reclone it to the new drive. Since there won't be an OS on the new drive, you can simply start up the computer with the external drive attached, and it will find it eventually. IF you want to speed it up, you can hold the option key when you turn it on to be given a list of boot options.
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Old Sep 16th, 2009, 12:10 AM   #3
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FYI: Time Capsule is designed to replicate your main HD's data in case your main HD fails. It is not designed for, nor useful for, storing other data on, especially not libraries to run off of live.

Not sure why it's so hard to understand that Time Capsule is designed for Time Machine and practically nothing else. Accessing hard drives wirelessly, even on 'N' speeds, is painfully slow and unreliable.

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Clone your HD to the external using Disk Utility, then clone back to the newly installed HD. Done. Using CCC/SD is redundant software to Disk Utility for a one-time job.
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Old Sep 16th, 2009, 12:24 AM   #4
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[QUOTE=Lars;868948]FYI: Time Capsule is designed to replicate your main HD's data in case your main HD fails. It is not designed for, nor useful for, storing other data on, especially not libraries to run off of live.

Not sure why it's so hard to understand that Time Capsule is designed for Time Machine and practically nothing else.
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It's not hard to understand, just disappointing. It's a wireless router combined with a hard drive. I'm sure it would have been very easy to allow some user direction of this drive, to use some of it's space to store data on. In fact it does work to store data on, I've done it. It is just cumbersome to navigate and as you mention wireless performance isn't going to cut it for these uses. It does seem a bit wrong that there is so little user control of the TC though, there isn't even a way to dedicate how much each of multiple computers can use of the drive space, ( and this IS how it was designed to be used). near as I can tell all computers using time machine on it all race to the end of the space available then start erasing earlier backups for newer ones. Whichever machine connected first gets the biggest share of the drive. Correct me if I'm wrong about that.
Good tip on using disk utility for the clone, didn't know I could do that. On the other hand I assume the CCC clone would do the same thing? ( since I have already done that).

John Clay, Option key, thanks that sounds real easy.
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Not that it's any of my business, but *170GB* in iPhoto?? Am I reading that right?

My iPhoto library covers every photo I've taken since 2003, plus any short "videos" my digital cameras have taken, and even adding in the scanning of old photos I've done recently I'm hovering around 60GB. This is well over 7,000 photos we're talking about.

I'm curious as to how you've amassed such a huge collection.
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Old Sep 16th, 2009, 08:41 AM   #6
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Not that it's any of my business, but *170GB* in iPhoto?? Am I reading that right?

I'm curious as to how you've amassed such a huge collection.
That's easy... three kids

Sure it should be about 10% of this if I actually spent the time editing I should.
But it's way easier to just spend my way out the of need to do this with a few hundred dollars worth of hard drive.
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Not that it's any of my business, but *170GB* in iPhoto?? Am I reading that right?

My iPhoto library covers every photo I've taken since 2003, plus any short "videos" my digital cameras have taken, and even adding in the scanning of old photos I've done recently I'm hovering around 60GB. This is well over 7,000 photos we're talking about.

I'm curious as to how you've amassed such a huge collection.
170GB is nothing - I don't use iPhoto as Lightroom is a better solution for me - my library, my active library, hovers around 200GB right now for approximately 14K photos. Most of my photos are taken in RAW format so I suspect yours are all JPEGs. And this is nothing compared to some others, I heard of photo libraries in the multi terabyte range
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Old Sep 16th, 2009, 10:31 AM   #8
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Take it to a shop. Get them to do it. I was going to swap out a drive, as it is easy enough to do. Only problem is the aluminum iMacs are not as easy to get into as the earlier. Time was you could pull the back of an iMac and see everything right there. Track down a video on how to do the swap, there are several online to watch. After u watch it, take it to a dealer and pay them to change it.
Step 1, get a strong-ish suction cup thingy to pull the glass from off the iMac (held in with rare-earth magnets. then start removing a bazillion tiny screws, do not lose any. Oh, and careful with the connector for the camera. After u are done all the digging, the drive is like 2 screws and a cable. Getting there is NOT half the fun!
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some time back there was an interesting post pointing out what seems obvious afterwards, that you have to empty the iphoto trash separately from the regular one...
i mention this just on the off chance...
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some time back there was an interesting post pointing out what seems obvious afterwards, that you have to empty the iphoto trash separately from the regular one...
i mention this just on the off chance...
Nice tip, I didn't know that. Poof, 12GB more room
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