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Old Jun 3rd, 2009, 01:13 PM   #1
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Mac Menu Bar vs. Windows / multiple monitors

In the past I've never had a problem with the fact that menu bars in mac applications always show up in the main menu bar rather than in the application window. And I understand why Apple did this in the first place (at least I think I do).

However, after going to dual monitors, I find it a pain to have to mouse way over from one screen to the other just to use the menu.

Does anyone else agree / disagree?

Has anyone found a reliable utility that maybe puts apps in their own window? Other work arounds?
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Old Jun 3rd, 2009, 01:28 PM   #2
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Yes it can certainly be a nuisance and another good reason to learn as many keyboard short cuts as possible.
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Old Jun 3rd, 2009, 02:34 PM   #3
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While I can not help you, I would also like to comment.

Maybe a good idea for apple is to have the menu bar for the program being used appear at the top of the display where it is used. Finder would still be found on the primary, but any program being ran on the secondary would have it's menu bar at the top of it's display.

I guess the short coming of Apple's design was the deveopment and use of multiple monitors. Apple could also consider mirroring the title bar in the displays.

As for a solution I have nothing to suggest.
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I agree that it's an annoying pain to use only one menu. A benefit of using "Windows" is that each "Window" has it's own encapsulated menu structure. This is exactly why it was called "Windows" in the first place.
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Old Jun 3rd, 2009, 06:27 PM   #5
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Maybe a good idea for apple is to have the menu bar for the program being used appear at the top of the display where it is used. Finder would still be found on the primary, but any program being ran on the secondary would have it's menu bar at the top of it's display.
I think that's a great idea. I would be totally happy if the menu bar for an app appeared in the same display - or if that's ambiguous, then in the display containing the majority of the window or something.

In fact, I can hardly believe that with all the UI tweaking programs, there isn't one that at least does that. But I haven't found anything yet.

Ironically, I found a number of programs for Windows to convert to a Mac-style menu bar!
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While I can not help you, I would also like to comment.
I guess the short coming of Apple's design was the deveopment and use of multiple monitors. Apple could also consider mirroring the title bar in the displays.
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Old Jun 3rd, 2009, 07:47 PM   #7
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You can access lot of stuff through keyboard - sometime it is easier.

Lets hope they allow that in snow leoperd
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Old Jun 3rd, 2009, 09:29 PM   #8
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There's probably an app for that... no pun intended. Lots of Finder-customizing utilities. Do a search at Mac OS X Software Updates and Mac OS X Downloads - VersionTracker
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At present, Apple's solution for this "problem" is "learn the keyboard shortcuts, that's why they are there."

Maybe that will change in the future. Certainly usage patterns have changed with regards to multi-monitor setups over the years. It used to be VERY MUCH a "certain professions only" kind of thing, but now that everyone owns a laptop, Apple is probably thinking about how to make the menubar system work better (and work better than how Windows does it, which is convenient but inefficient).
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I agree that it's an annoying pain to use only one menu. A benefit of using "Windows" is that each "Window" has it's own encapsulated menu structure. This is exactly why it was called "Windows" in the first place.
Actually it's called "Windows" because "cheap Mac wanna-be" just didn't have a nice ring to it.
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