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Old Jan 15th, 2009, 12:22 AM   #41
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We are really getting off topic here...............

I just quickly read through the article linked in the first post.

I don't really see how that article addresses either performance or reliability as the headline states. All I see is a bunch of numbers how fast applications launch and one encoding using handbrake.
OK - the encoding maybe considered "performance" but launching applications?
And there is nothing there related to reliability as far as I could see glancing at the article.

One thing however struck me.....Apple Mail a descendant of Outlook Express????
How did he come to that conclusion??

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Apple Mail is now a mature product that benefits from years of optimization, whereas Windows Mail is technically brand new. Of course, both are descendants of Outlook Express,
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Old Jan 15th, 2009, 07:58 AM   #42
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I think your description above applies to very few people - you generalize as if all Mac users fall into this category.

I'd be hard pressed to find a single person on this forum who has "blind faith and unquestioning adoration" towards Apple or the Mac.

If you look through the posts, you will find more criticism than praise.
I am not going to get into finger pointing. My comment was that there are "many". I never said anything like "all", and I was not restricting it to EhMac. I love this community and yes there is lots of criticism of Apple here.

There is also a tendency to demonize Microsoft by several people here-including one person who can be relied on to produce long, rambling rants about the evil empire on a regular basis. There are extreme statements made that nothing MS has ever done is worthwhile, it's all crap, etc etc.

I just think it is a huge waste of energy. I have a Mac, I like what it does. I like Apple, and I like what they do. Why would I want to spend my time attacking Microsoft and justifying my move to a Mac? What good does it do and how does it help anyone? To a potential Mac newbie it makes me look like a fanatic, and to a PC user it makes me look like a blind FanBoy. It immediately puts anyone who uses Microsoft products and has the temerity to say so on the defensive.

It's just bad medicine.

...and that is my rant.......
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mc3251: Again, I agree with you. There are so many Apple users who like their Macs and keep quiet, but there is a very vocal minority that destroys the reputation for the most of us.
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Who invested millions into Apple?
Oh Christ on a stick not THIS old canard AGAIN!!!!

Microsoft bought some NON-VOTING stock in Apple in 1998. In part this was a public relations move alongside the announcement of a new version of Office, at a time when Apple needed some friends in the media.

It was only a SYMBOLIC GESTURE. Look that up and learn something.

Behind the scenes, MS gave Apple many millions more -- to settle a patent infringement lawsuit Apple would have won that was about to become public. Read "Apple Confidential" to see the whole story.

They sold their b-grade stock -- at a very healthy profit, I might add -- about three years later.
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Old Jan 15th, 2009, 12:05 PM   #45
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There is also a tendency to demonize Microsoft by several people here-including one person who can be relied on to produce long, rambling rants about the evil empire on a regular basis. There are extreme statements made that nothing MS has ever done is worthwhile, it's all crap, etc etc.
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I think we are pretty much on the same wavelength, just looking at it from a different perspective.

On another site which I look at regularly (not a site that has anything to do with computers in particular, the subject just comes up once in a while) - I get rambling rants about the Mac being a piece of overpriced crap and Vista is the greatest thing since sliced bread every time I make the slightest comment about Apple or the Mac, even comments that have nothing to do with Microsoft or their OS.

I honestly think that on ehMac one in general gets pretty much fair and factual information; and if someone does post something incorrectly or is too biased, there is a large number of ehMac members who are willing to jump in and correct any posts.
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I think we are pretty much on the same wavelength, just looking at it from a different perspective.
I'm not sure even the perspective is different. I actually agree about the balance on ehMac...if the community was mostly foam flecked fanaticism of any stripe I'd be beating a hasty.
I just get very nervous around anything that seems to be fanatic-because at that point logical, conscious thinking retreats and the reptile brain takes over.
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One thing however struck me.....Apple Mail a descendant of Outlook Express????
How did he come to that conclusion??
Via a crack pipe.
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