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Old Mar 23rd, 2008, 04:14 PM   #1
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apple.ca charge tax?

Does apple.ca charge sales tax? I'm just comparing buying from apple.ca to our campus computer store.
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Old Mar 23rd, 2008, 04:17 PM   #2
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Old Mar 23rd, 2008, 04:18 PM   #3
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Yep, same as any store. It's based on the applicable GST/PST in the province in which the buyer lives. It's the law.
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Old Mar 23rd, 2008, 04:24 PM   #4
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Well why the heck can't they give the gst and pst in the estimated cost, makes your bill look like its going to be a fair chunk less when considering a laptop. Thanks for the quick answers.

Oh, on the note of pst. Some online stores that I have purchased from, only charge pst if the product is being shipped in that province. My example is NCIX.com - Buy LCD Monitors In Canada.. I've never paid pst from them. But I guess this is not the case for apple.ca.
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Old Mar 23rd, 2008, 05:12 PM   #5
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Well why the heck can't they give the gst and pst in the estimated cost, makes your bill look like its going to be a fair chunk less when considering a laptop. Thanks for the quick answers.

Oh, on the note of pst. Some online stores that I have purchased from, only charge pst if the product is being shipped in that province. My example is NCIX.com - Buy LCD Monitors In Canada.. I've never paid pst from them. But I guess this is not the case for apple.ca.

You will always pay both taxes from Apple.ca [I believe that this is due to the fact that Apple has a presence of some sort in Ontario where NCIX may not].
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Old Mar 23rd, 2008, 05:49 PM   #6
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NCIX is provincially incorporated; they only have to deal with BC provincial sales tax.

Not that you would be off the hook, legally, if you bought something and didn't pay PST ... in most provinces you are legally bound to voluntarily pay it. Also, most provinces allow you to ask for a PST refund if you buy something and don't live in that province.

Of course, almost no-one does either, but that is the law.

Apple does business across Canada. Generally if you have a physical address in a province that's enough to trigger an obligation to collect PST, although it's not the only criteria.

There are some choices a reseller can make that affect if they have to collect or not, even if they don't have a physical presence, but if you want to be able to open a store anywhere in the country (now or in the future) without hassles, you license nationally, not provincially, and collect PST everywhere.
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There are some choices a reseller can make that affect if they have to collect or not, even if they don't have a physical presence, but if you want to be able to open a store anywhere in the country (now or in the future) without hassles, you license nationally, not provincially, and collect PST everywhere.
'Cept in Alberta, of course.
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NCIX is provincially incorporated; they only have to deal with BC provincial sales tax.
It has nothing to do with whether you are incorporated provincially or federally. It has to do with whether you have what the government calls a "permanent establishment" in the province in question.

If your company does not have a permanent establishment in a particular province, you are not under their jurisdiction and they can't make you collect & remit sales tax on sales shipped to that province. In this case it is the buyers responsibility to remit the applicable PST.

You may still voluntarily register, collect, and remit PST... to save your customers the "trouble" of remitting it themselves... ;-)
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Old Mar 23rd, 2008, 10:24 PM   #9
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I actually complained to Apple about not showing the tax in the estimated price when doing a purchase online. I never actually got my total until after the credit card went through.
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If you want to estimate the sales tax, simply multiple the amount by the combined GST and PST amounts - nothing difficult about it. For Ontario, it's X purchase amount multiplied by 1.13. (13%.)
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