G3 B&W 350 vs G3 B&W 400

Lawrence · Dec 19th, 2006, 11:59 AM

Is there a difference between these two machine physically?
Would it be better to get the 400 rather than the 350 for resale value?

Dave

Mississauga · Dec 19th, 2006, 12:14 PM

More importantly, identifying whether it's a rev.A or rev.B makes a difference. The rev.B models addressed Firewire and ATA issues prevalent in the rev.A model. I forget how to tell, but I'm sure it's something to do with the model number.

iTony · Dec 19th, 2006, 12:16 PM

	Quote:			Originally Posted by Mississauga
	More importantly, identifying whether it's a rev.A or rev.B makes a difference. The rev.B models addressed Firewire and ATA issues prevalent in the rev.A model. I forget how to tell, but I'm sure it's something to do with the model number.

http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/G3-ZONE/y...wfeatures.html

Lawrence · Dec 19th, 2006, 03:37 PM

So the Revision 2 logic boards command chip is "646U2-402" then,
That's good to know, I wouldn't want to get stuck with a Revision 1 logic board.

Thanks for the link.

Dave

MacDoc · Dec 19th, 2006, 05:24 PM

You realllllllllly reallllllly reallllly don't want a REV A

MacJunky · Dec 20th, 2006, 06:05 AM

MacDoc, a Rev 1 is fine if you only need one HD on the Ultra ATA 33 bus and don't mind risking flaky FireWire.

My primary desktop was once a Rev 1 B&W G3 mobo with a 300Mhz Beige G3 CPU (1MB L2) and aside from being limited to three drives and having un-powered FireWire ports (it was in an ATX case with no front panel board to properly power the FireWire ports) it worked without flaw as long as my FireWire devices were not bus powered. It worked fine with IP over FireWire too. :P

I don't really understand the entire stigma related to the Rev 1 B&W G3 mobos. So what if the FireWire module is flaky, just get a FireWire 800+400 PCI card and be done with it. If you need more HD space stick an HD in the Zip drive bay, if you still need more get an ATA 133 or SCSI PCI controller.

The Rev 1 B&W G3s are fine for most average users and they also make good servers as I have found out (dependant on specs).

gnatsum · Dec 20th, 2006, 01:01 PM

basically the fix for a Rev A. machine is a PCI Controller card. that's all.

To answer your question,

When I went from a g3 400 from a g3 350 B&W, I noticed a speed increase. RISC likes faster clock speeds for faster performance. Kind of the opposite of how CISC reacts to faster clock speeds.

bmovie · Dec 20th, 2006, 03:18 PM

HEY, I have a BW G3 300 that's a rev A, with 3 HD in it, two on board and one in the Zip drive, that's over clocked to 500 mhz now since the day it came out and it's ran perfectly without any problems.

I know for a fact that's it's a rev A.

Great machine.