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Old Jun 13th, 2006, 02:00 AM   #1
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apple conceding windows better at business

i've been watching all those get a mac ads (including the three new ones, check em out at http://www.apple.com/getamac/) and they seem to subtly mention that macs are better for life stuff (music, home video/picture editing, etc.) and windows pc's more targeted towards business.

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Old Jun 13th, 2006, 02:51 AM   #2
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I don't think its necesarily conceding. It seems more like letting people know that a Mac can do Windows as well. I know a lot of people who have gone out an purchased a Mac simply because they know that they can run their Windows apps on it as well ( I am one of those people). Boot camp wasn't advertised at all when it was released. I think this add was designed to get a lot of people that are on the cusp to go ahead and purchase a Mac without worry.
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Old Jun 13th, 2006, 04:46 AM   #3
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i've been watching all those get a mac ads (including the three new ones, check em out at http://www.apple.com/getamac/) and they seem to subtly mention that macs are better for life stuff (music, home video/picture editing, etc.) and windows pc's more targeted towards business.

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It's not that windows is better at business. It's more like "that's all it can do." This is Apple's message in those ADs.
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It's not that windows is better at business. It's more like "that's all it can do." This is Apple's message in those ADs.
I think I agree with this.

But, technically.. Windows is better at business right now. At least corporate. There are some really great versions of XP embedded, it's a big deal for HUGE corporations. Windows actually isn't too bad if it's locked down
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Old Jun 13th, 2006, 10:23 AM   #5
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In the ads, Apple made no attempt to say that the Mac can do spread sheets and charts too. They simply said it can do pictures, videos and websites. Microsoft Office is a big deal on a Mac. Apple should try and get some mileage out of the fact that it is availible or a least make it known.
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In the ads, Apple made no attempt to say that the Mac can do spread sheets and charts too. They simply said it can do pictures, videos and websites. Microsoft Office is a big deal on a Mac. Apple should try and get some mileage out of the fact that it is availible or a least make it known.
In the earlier ads specific mention was made of Macs being able to run Office.
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It doesn't matter if Apple conceded or not. Windows boxes are better suited to the business environment due to the sheer number of unique applications available for it.

Also, since the majority of computer programmers are PC people, getting a custom PC program for a Windows environment is a lot easier than getting a custom Mac application.

Compare the number of business accounting programs for PC vs Mac. There is no competition.

Look at the number of bank website issues involved with using a Mac with Safari vs. Windows.

Please don't turn this thread into "Windows are full of viruses, so Macs are better, so there!" argument please. It's about Windows offering more options in the business world.
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It doesn't matter if Apple conceded or not. Windows boxes are better suited to the business environment due to the sheer number of unique applications available for it.

Also, since the majority of computer programmers are PC people, getting a custom PC program for a Windows environment is a lot easier than getting a custom Mac application.

Compare the number of business accounting programs for PC vs Mac. There is no competition.

Look at the number of bank website issues involved with using a Mac with Safari vs. Windows.

Please don't turn this thread into "Windows are full of viruses, so Macs are better, so there!" argument please. It's about Windows offering more options in the business world.
Well said.. I completely agree.
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It doesn't matter if Apple conceded or not. Windows boxes are better suited to the business environment due to the sheer number of unique applications available for it.

Also, since the majority of computer programmers are PC people, getting a custom PC program for a Windows environment is a lot easier than getting a custom Mac application.

Compare the number of business accounting programs for PC vs Mac. There is no competition.

Look at the number of bank website issues involved with using a Mac with Safari vs. Windows.

Please don't turn this thread into "Windows are full of viruses, so Macs are better, so there!" argument please. It's about Windows offering more options in the business world.
A few air points, and of course the virus thing is relevant but not the main point.

Certainly there are more unique WIN apps available for businesses, and the programmer count is certainly a major point.

In my view though, in an economy like ours where most businesses are small and do not require unique apps, Macs are as good as PCs. The apps actually needed by most SMEs are well provided for in the Mac world. Lack of familiarity with the platform, lack of push by Apple and (mostly in the past) up-front costs are more more immediate issues for businesses.

In more than 2 decades of running SMEs and consulting to them only 2 required apps only available in the WIN platform. Without referring to files I can remember 7 companies that decided to use tailored apps even though existing ones were available - in these cases the larger,more experienced WIN programmer community would have been a clincher.

In all the others, dozens of companies, either platform would have been fine, and Macs would certainly have required less support. BUT - up front pricing was always an issue, until recently.
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I'm not advocating that Apple advertise they are "better" for business. But they certainly left the door open to critism or doubt for office type applications. They said the PC is good for that without even saying the Mac has the ability to perform those tasks as well.

They should've promoted the iLife and then added you can do your spreadsheets and charts too. I don't think we're talking complex accounting and inventory control programs here, just relatively simple productivity type applications whether is be MS Office or some other spreadsheet or word processor.
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