www.ehmac.ca

 


Join ehMac.ca today by clicking here. Registration is FREE. Post in forums, view photos, fewer ads!


  
Go Back   ehMac.ca > ehMac: Canada's Mac Community! > Anything Mac

Evidence of MacTel Issue Problem

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old Oct 24th, 2005, 12:41 PM   #11
Full Citizen
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 746
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snubnose
I agree...but I think it is also Apple's loss, wouldn't you say?
How is it Apple's loss? Your dad could have easily bought the iBook now and still be using it 2 years from now. Although the iBook runs on a G4 and not a G5 and is less powerful then a Powerbook, it would have still been adequate enough for your dad depending on his uses in computing.

Your dad is now back to fighting with his PC once again, when he had other choices.
MacGYVER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 24th, 2005, 12:47 PM   #12
Full Citizen
 
RISCHead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Toronto
Posts: 664
Much ado about nothing

Sounds like a very general question was asked:
"Are there going to be any issues with the new Intel Macs?"

General questions don't usually get good answers. Significant digging is required to get to the meat of the concern and specific answers

Yes, its everyone's loss in this case. However, such losses do happen

Does this indicate Apple has a poor business strategy? Should they change it?
Firstly, its not our call . Secondly, time will tell. Thirdly, nothing Apple's done so far is out of line with general industry practice in terms of product announcements, other manufacturing business examples notwithstanding.

Should Apple anticipate these kinds of questions from worried potential clientele and train their front-line staff to deal with them more effectively?
A-F..ing ABSOLUTELY

Does this mean we'll actually learn more about what's going to happen?
No chance.

Is it really a concern or an issue?
No


just my 2c worth.
__________________
We live in a society exquisitely dependent on science and technology, in which hardly anyone knows anything about science and technology. ~Carl Sagan
RISCHead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 24th, 2005, 12:49 PM   #13
Honourable Citizen
 
mr.steevo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,234
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacGYVER
How is it Apple's loss? Your dad could have easily bought the iBook now and still be using it 2 years from now. Although the iBook runs on a G4 and not a G5 and is less powerful then a Powerbook, it would have still been adequate enough for your dad depending on his uses in computing.

Your dad is now back to fighting with his PC once again, when he had other choices.

Lost sale.

s.
mr.steevo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 24th, 2005, 01:17 PM   #14
Honourable Citizen
 
CanadaRAM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Victoria BC
Posts: 3,155
FUD -- Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt

If you are the top of mind product, FUD is what your competitor wants your customer to have when they are thinking about your product. The intention is to have your customer delay or second-guess their purchase.

In this case, dumb-$#!~ Apple employee planted FUD against his own product by introducing a variable that the customer had no way to cope with in their decision-making process -- therefore the customer reverted to what was familiar, and dumb-$#!~ blew the sale.

That's what happens when you hire inexperienced staff. Not so much of a problem if you are a clothing retailer, say, but deadly if it is a durable product with a 2 - 5 year repeat buying cycle.
CanadaRAM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 24th, 2005, 01:31 PM   #15
Full Citizen
 
RISCHead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Toronto
Posts: 664
Quote:
Originally Posted by CanadaRAM
FUD -- Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt

If you are the top of mind product, FUD is what your competitor wants your customer to have when they are thinking about your product. The intention is to have your customer delay or second-guess their purchase.

In this case, dumb-$#!~ Apple employee planted FUD against his own product by introducing a variable that the customer had no way to cope with in their decision-making process -- therefore the customer reverted to what was familiar, and dumb-$#!~ blew the sale.

That's what happens when you hire inexperienced staff. Not so much of a problem if you are a clothing retailer, say, but deadly if it is a durable product with a 2 - 5 year repeat buying cycle.
Well put!
__________________
We live in a society exquisitely dependent on science and technology, in which hardly anyone knows anything about science and technology. ~Carl Sagan
RISCHead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 24th, 2005, 01:31 PM   #16
Honourable Citizen
 
Kosh's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 4,474
I have to agree with most here, an Apple employee at a Apple Store is not going to know anything more than you or I about future products. The knowledge they do have is going to be about the current porducts they have in store. After all how can you discuss something that doesn't even exist yet. I mean these new Intel computers don't come out until somewhere around June of 2006. You'll know about issues, once they are actually out.

As for buying any current computer, there shouldn't be any issue with that as they'll continue to run MacOS X and the software they have for years.

Maybe you should read this article that's been posted here a few times... http://www.macworld.com/2005/06/feat...lfaq/index.php
__________________
-- Mac Pro Dual 3.0 Dual Core, 4GB RAM, 150GB Raptor HD, 500GB HD, Superdrive, Radeon X1900XT, Bluetooth, Airport Exteme, Logitech Z-5500 5.1 Speakers, 30" ACD
-- PowerMac G5 Dual 2.5, 2.5GB RAM, 160GB HD, Superdrive, Radeon X800XT, Bluetooth, Airport Extreme
-- Macbook Pro 2.53 15", 4GB, 320GB HD, SuperDrive, Bluetooth, Airport Extreme
-- iBook G4 1.33 14", 768MB RAM, 60GB HD, Combo Drive, Airport Extreme
Kosh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 24th, 2005, 02:03 PM   #17
Honourable Citizen
 
TroutMaskReplica's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Toronto
Posts: 3,355
this whole issue is kind of dumb. the ppc architecture will be supported for years to come. no one has bothered to mention that apple's compiler produces dual binaries that will run on either architecture.

a more reasonable question might be 'will this pc i'm about to buy be able to run long horn when it comes out?' chances are the answer is no.
__________________
intel iMac 20" dual core 2 ghz, Dual 1.25ghz MDD
TroutMaskReplica is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 24th, 2005, 02:05 PM   #18
Honourable Citizen
 
MannyP Design's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: New Brunswick
Posts: 6,384
Send a message via AIM to MannyP Design
Some people are just reading way to much into one little sentence. The fact of the matter is: Nobody knows a whole lot about the new Intel Macintosh computers... except for those under an NDA.
MannyP Design is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 24th, 2005, 02:09 PM   #19
Full Citizen
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Edmonton, AB
Posts: 89
Quote:
Originally Posted by « MannyP Design »
Some people are just reading way to much into one little sentence. The fact of the matter is: Nobody knows a whole lot about the new Intel Macintosh computers... except for those under an NDA.
That was the best reply yet. Hear hear.
asylus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Oct 24th, 2005, 02:16 PM   #20
Honourable Citizen
 
PosterBoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia
Posts: 6,472
Send a message via AIM to PosterBoy Send a message via MSN to PosterBoy
Gah, I hate the term "obsolete" and it's connotations towards computers.

People seem to be under the impression when buying a computer that when the next model comes out the one they bought will be magically rendered unable to meet their needs. What a bunch of horse-poo.

If you're constantly looking around at the next model and what it can do, then yeah, you're likely going to miss out on some new features. If, however, you look at your computer and compare it to your needs as a user, it'll likely not be obsolete for a long, long time. In fact, it won't be obsolete until it doesn't meet your needs anymore, which for the average web-surfing-email-checking-but-not-much-else-user is a time frame that can be measured in years.
__________________
"Putting clients first by putting employees first, immediately after prioritizing fiscal responsibility and leveraging profitability toward exceeding by empowering our employees to put clients (and themselves) first, in a diverse and respectful environment of only those that come first, first."
PosterBoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
iMac 400 DVD Problem Larry Jorgenson Mac & iPod Help & Troubleshooting 5 Jan 11th, 2007 02:10 PM
What could the problem be? Applelover Anything Mac 8 Sep 12th, 2005 12:27 PM
Really weird iBook problem! Ingenu Mac & iPod Help & Troubleshooting 8 Sep 9th, 2005 09:30 AM
here's a stumper of a problem .. simon Mac & iPod Help & Troubleshooting 9 Jun 11th, 2003 08:12 AM
9.2 Disk Image problem surrealestate Anything Mac 2 Dec 3rd, 2002 11:31 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:56 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1999 - 2010, ehMac.ca All rights reserved. ehMac is not affiliated with Apple Inc. Mac, iPod, iTunes, iPhone, Apple TV are trademarks of Apple Inc. Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0

Tribe.ca: Urban living in Toronto!