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Old Oct 24th, 2005, 10:30 AM   #1
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Flash based FrontRow UI?

Yo Flash Gods...

So how hard would it be to create a FrontRow like UI using flash? I'm not talking about the secondary navigation through files... Just something simple to switch between the front end apps like iTunes, iMovie, iDVD, Safari, Finder and iPhoto.

I would think the Flash stuff is the easy part. The tough part would be scripting the launch of the other apps. Also making sure that the flash stuff is always running might be tough.

Any thoughts flash gods?

Anyone up to the challenge?
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Old Oct 24th, 2005, 10:59 AM   #2
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I'm not sure flash could have access to system files to do app switching, that would be a serious security risk. Perhaps director would be a better choice for that.
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Old Oct 24th, 2005, 11:22 AM   #3
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I'm not sure flash could have access to system files to do app switching, that would be a serious security risk. Perhaps director would be a better choice for that.
OK... Director then.

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yew...

Can't believe Apple wouldn't just bundle FrontRow up as a standalone app and sell it/make it a free download.

Seems like a wasted effort to bother with an alternative solution.
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the UI would not be difficult although you probably would want to make it less graphics intensive, more like other PVR interfaces and with less animation. you won't get the smooth scaling effects that apple's UI has. those are very processor intensive in flash (i'm not that familiar with director). apple relies on advanced video card features to pull these off.

i doubt flash/director would be an appropriate choice for this project. my 2 cents.
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Old Oct 24th, 2005, 03:02 PM   #6
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FrontRow's just being used as a differentiator right now to sell the new iMacs and generate interest in the technology.

I bet you in 6 months or less its readily available for all the Macs.
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the UI would not be difficult although you probably would want to make it less graphics intensive, more like other PVR interfaces and with less animation. you won't get the smooth scaling effects that apple's UI has. those are very processor intensive in flash (i'm not that familiar with director). apple relies on advanced video card features to pull these off.

i doubt flash/director would be an appropriate choice for this project. my 2 cents.
definitely not flash, but director is far more efficient at moving bitmaps than flash. Although the new flash 8 player is way better at processor intensive motion.
But you just can't do it with flash.
director is used all the time for similar type duties.
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I have a strong feeling that Apple is using Java technology to produce the icons to rotate like that. Has anyone seen the demonstration of the 3D Project Looking Glass from Sun Microsystems? Found here:

http://java.sun.com/developer/techni.../lookingglass/

They basically came up with the exact same concept a few years ago, I'm talking about having icons in full 3D like Apple has and making them rotate around like that with FrontRow.

I'm probably wrong, but it looks very very similar to what Sun Microsystems has been working on for their version of a 3D Desktop OS.
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Old Oct 24th, 2005, 07:23 PM   #9
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director has extensive support for 3D and has for a number years. I haven't used it so I don't know if it compares well, would be curious to know if it could. I'm mainly a flash developer, I've done only light work in director.
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I used to program in Director.. learned it in school.. but I couldn't find any work with it, so I eventually forgot everything I learned. Now, a few versions later, I wouldn't know where to begin.. lingo is kinda tough to learn as it is...

From what I can recall though, it can be done in Director. But you'd need to know remote protocols, how to integrate libraries and file directories, etc.
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