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Old Jul 6th, 2005, 05:40 PM   #1
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Panther+G4 Compatible SCSI Cards

I've got some legacy peripherials from my 8500/G3 days, most notably a SCSI scanner and my Zip250 drive. The scanner works fine, and is still supported by the manufacturer, and I'd hate to have to buy a USB Zip250..

I did some searching, it seems that Adaptec has stopped supporting the Mac. Can anyone make recommendations on a good, affordable SCSI card? My scanner can handle both centronics and DB25, while the Zip250 can only handle DB25 (but I've got cables for both).

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Old Jul 6th, 2005, 05:41 PM   #2
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Old Jul 6th, 2005, 06:00 PM   #3
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Actually adaptec is still (sort of) supporting mac on some card models, I just got a good deal on an OEM adaptec card that works fine in OSX... but if you're looking for scsi1/scsi2 sort of stuff that's not likely what you want (mine is a 29160 I think and is an LVD connector).
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Old Jul 6th, 2005, 08:59 PM   #4
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Jaguar + G4 Compatible SCSI Cards

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For what machine??
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QuickSilver/733.

And I meant Jaguar (10.3.x) not Panter (10.2.x?).

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And I meant Jaguar (10.3.x) not Panter (10.2.x?).
Jaguar is 10.2.x.
Panther is 10.3.x.

Shall we assume you mean Panther, then?
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Old Jul 6th, 2005, 09:42 PM   #6
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Just a small note: SCSI is dead on the Mac. If you install a card, you're making yourself hostage to the whims of the manufacturer - maybe they'll decide not to support 10.5 (Leopard.)

Why wouldn't you want to get a USB Zip 250? I picked one up on eBay for $35, plus shipping. The only reason I bothered was to send discs to my sister, who is stuck with an old Mac and a modem - Zips are really yesterday's news - no advantage whatever over CD-R.

I can see why you wouldn't want to abandon a nice high-end SCSI scanner. It is high-end, isn't it? If not, a USB scanner will give you much greater joy. At the consumer level, I'd recommend the Canon LiDE series.
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Just a small note: SCSI is dead on the Mac. If you install a card, you're making yourself hostage to the whims of the manufacturer - maybe they'll decide not to support 10.5 (Leopard.)

Why wouldn't you want to get a USB Zip 250? I picked one up on eBay for $35, plus shipping. The only reason I bothered was to send discs to my sister, who is stuck with an old Mac and a modem - Zips are really yesterday's news - no advantage whatever over CD-R.

I can see why you wouldn't want to abandon a nice high-end SCSI scanner. It is high-end, isn't it? If not, a USB scanner will give you much greater joy. At the consumer level, I'd recommend the Canon LiDE series.
I have loads of legacy SCSI equipment. I was on my 8500 up until three days ago, using my Pismo for web surfing and eMail only. And I only went G4 b/c my friend gave me a stripped down chassis which I dropped my own RAM and HD into. Needless to say, I didn't have the money to upgrade anytime soon!

Anyways. SCSI is still a good interface to work with. Why spend another $35 on USB ZIP when I have a perfectly good SCSI ZIP here? Since I am spending the money on a SCSI card to get my scanner to work, there is no need to spend more. Plus, I have about 20 GB of external SCSI storage I can use on the G4 for other stuff (e.g., backup server), plus a backup CDRW. SCSI is good b/c it keeps moving forward, esp. if you have a system with PCI slots.

To top it off, I've used the USB ZIP250 on an iMac, and a P3 under Windows Me, and I didn't like the performance. Unless they have improved the design, the drive is too bloody loud, and slow! Also, many places with highly secure machines don't trust USB keychains, and some don't even have CDROM's! But for some reason, they still support Zip?! Zip makes a very nice medium. You can use it as a HD for a Mac Plus, or even as an emergency startup disk for Linux systems (which I have done). While it's not required, having a R/W emergency disk is sometimes better than a read only CDROM.

And to make things even better, since SCSI is forwards compatible, I can use an old SCSI on my Mac Plus, or even my Commodore 64! And still be able to hook it up to the G4. Very fast way of transfering files without a network,if you don't mind the shutdown-unplug-turnon cycle!
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Jaguar is 10.2.x.
Panther is 10.3.x.

Shall we assume you mean Panther, then?
Whoops. All of the OS codenames get confusing after a while. Anyone remember Gershwin?
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I'm using an Grappler SCSI 930U from Orange Micro.
It's SCSI 1,2,3 Ultra and came with a 25 pin adapter.
Works great with OS X
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I'm using an Grappler SCSI 930U from Orange Micro.
It's SCSI 1,2,3 Ultra and came with a 25 pin adapter.
Works great with OS X
Hey. I remember Orange Micro! I was originally going to buy a FW card from them for my 8500 a few years back.

Sadly, they seem to be out of business. So buying from them might not be the best idea.
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