Support for Macintel growing

MannyP Design · Jun 9th, 2005, 09:30 PM

We already know Microsoft, Adobe and Blizzard are dedicated to porting to MacIntel, it looks like a few others are getting into the act just days after the big announcement:

3D developer Maxon has dedicated support to PPC/Intel
http://www.maxon.de/index_e.html

	Quote:
	Always thinking ahead, MAXON's development team has been making sure it is in a position to react to advances or changes in technology very quickly. CINEMA 4D has been leading a "secret double life" as an Xcode version for a while. To that end, the first internal Universal Binaries for Intel- and PowerPC-based Apple machines are already compiled in our labs.

Real Basic to be Mac Intel friendly:
http://www.macworld.com/news/2005/06...php?lsrc=mwrss

	Quote:
	REAL Software CEO and president Geoff Perlman explained that REALbasic itself is cross-platform by design, which helps REALbasic developers to make the transition. “Most applications will require nothing but a simple re-compile, with no code changes at all,” said Perlman in a statement.

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AppleAuthority · Jun 9th, 2005, 09:37 PM

Do you think getting the Intel compatible versions of software you already own for the Mac will be cheap (or free)?

MannyP Design · Jun 9th, 2005, 09:50 PM

Cheap?

I guess it depends if a) they release during the usual yearly update with added features; b) whether or not it was an easy port; and/or c) they're greedy bastards.

Mantat · Jun 10th, 2005, 08:42 AM

Jus tthink about it: everytime they ask you to pay for a new version, there are chances that you switch to a competitor. So, unless they make some big software update with the release (very probable), they will probably be free or cheap.

Vexel · Jun 10th, 2005, 08:52 AM

Anyone know if Rosetta will allow you to even install your current applications via CD? If they are built for PPC, how would it even recognize the installer? I guess that would be an update of some kind. Or maybe there isn't even an issue. I'm only wondering.. because.. if you can't install your Apps, then how are you going to update them?

I would think the most likely solution is going to be a "newly updated" dual binary option to purchase. The Developers will have to cover some of the costs for sure.

MannyP Design · Jun 10th, 2005, 09:16 AM

Vexel -- if an installer is PPC... then Rosetta will take over. That's it, that's all.

Vexel · Jun 10th, 2005, 09:17 AM

cool

Thanks Manny

rogueToe · Jun 10th, 2005, 12:15 PM

The true test will be commitement from Quark. We all remember how enthused they were about moving on to OS X ...

MannyP Design · Jun 10th, 2005, 12:26 PM

	Quote:			Originally Posted by rogueToe
	The true test will be commitement from Quark. We all remember how enthused they were about moving on to OS X ...

Indeed!

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Luxology Modo Ready for Intel Switch
http://www.macworld.com/news/2005/06/10/modo/index.php

	Quote:
	Luxology LLC announced Friday that modo, its subdivision surface and polygonal 3D modeling software, is compatible with the Intel-based Macs that Apple will produce in the coming year. “We had a programmer working on this immediately following Apple’s announcement and within 20 minutes modo was not only compiled as a universal binary but actually running on the Intel-based Macs,” said Luxology president Brad Peebler in a statement.

I know a lot of people here don't really do the 3D thing, but there's a few of us.

Honestly, this is really great news because if anyone is familiar with the 3D market -- it's not easy to develop a 3D application let alone profit a great deal from. To hear about the amount of time spent on porting with major programs such as these, you can't help but feel there's a whole lot more on the way.

ArtistSeries · Jun 10th, 2005, 01:50 PM

	Quote:			Originally Posted by Vexel
	Anyone know if Rosetta will allow you to even install your current applications via CD?

It's hard to speculate on any of this.

One of my favorite Mac news sites had this to say:
http://www.macintouch.com/macintel.html#commjun09
"Software is the big issue, for both cost and capability. Note that none - zero percent - of the software that you currently own is going to run natively on an Intel Mac. No pre-Mac OS X "Classic" application is going to run at all, even in emulation mode. No software that requires a G4 or G5 processor will work, even in emulation mode. No software that is dependent on low-level programming is going to work - this includes a lot of music and video applications, network and security applications, kernel extensions, low-level hacks, device drivers, and anything that is highly optimized for performance.
Sure, a lot of well-written general software is supposed to work with the Rosetta translation system on Intel Macs. Every single one of these applications will suffer some performance penalty, although it may be minimal and compensated by faster hardware in some cases. In other cases, the penalty will make running the application on a Mac PC like running a Windows application under Virtual PC, and you'll be better off running that software on one of today's PowerPC Macs.
This means that you're going to be buying new software if you buy an Intel Mac - lots of it. If you anticipate jumping into the Mac Intel world early - perhaps because you need a high-performance laptop - start saving now. It'll be like the transition from Mac OS 9 to Mac OS X, but probably even more demanding of upgrades."

Jun 10th, 2005, 08:52 AM	#5
Vexel Digital DJ Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sydney, Nova Scotia Posts: 5,284	Anyone know if Rosetta will allow you to even install your current applications via CD? If they are built for PPC, how would it even recognize the installer? I guess that would be an update of some kind. Or maybe there isn't even an issue. I'm only wondering.. because.. if you can't install your Apps, then how are you going to update them? I would think the most likely solution is going to be a "newly updated" dual binary option to purchase. The Developers will have to cover some of the costs for sure. __________________ 2.0Ghz '09 Mac Mini www.radioaddix.net

Jun 10th, 2005, 09:17 AM	#7
Vexel Digital DJ Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sydney, Nova Scotia Posts: 5,284	cool Thanks Manny __________________ 2.0Ghz '09 Mac Mini www.radioaddix.net

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AppleAuthority Honourable Citizen Join Date: May 2005 Location: Barrie Posts: 1,228	Do you think getting the Intel compatible versions of software you already own for the Mac will be cheap (or free)?

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MannyP Design Honourable Citizen Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: New Brunswick Posts: 6,384	Cheap? I guess it depends if a) they release during the usual yearly update with added features; b) whether or not it was an easy port; and/or c) they're greedy bastards.

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Mantat Full Citizen Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 435	Jus tthink about it: everytime they ask you to pay for a new version, there are chances that you switch to a competitor. So, unless they make some big software update with the release (very probable), they will probably be free or cheap.

Jun 10th, 2005, 09:16 AM	#6
MannyP Design Honourable Citizen Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: New Brunswick Posts: 6,384	Vexel -- if an installer is PPC... then Rosetta will take over. That's it, that's all.