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Old Feb 17th, 2005, 03:04 PM   #1
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Why NOT to "switch" to a Mac.

Walt Mossberg of the Wall Street Journal writes about who among PC users would not benefit from switching to Macs. As many of us may know here, Walt has typically been very supportive of Apple -- and sometimes rightfully critical. This column, while not seeing some points clearly enough, does have some valid points that would apply to SOME types of users. The masses, however, would be well served using a Mac. I have some thoughts on some of his points, but I'm curious as to what fellow ehMac members' opinion would be:

http://ptech.wsj.com/archive/ptech-20050217.html

Here are two Mac-centric sites with either a columnist's rebuttal or reader feedback:

http://www.mac360.com/index.php/mac3...h_to_mac_mini/

http://www.macobserver.com/article/2005/02/17.2.shtml
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Old Feb 17th, 2005, 03:14 PM   #2
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The couple things that always bother me about articles like this:
- The one button mouse thing: you can plug in any USB mouse, these aritcles never mention this...
- Delete key on laptops: the articles never mention that you can press fn-delete to ahieve the same thing!
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Old Feb 17th, 2005, 03:25 PM   #3
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Walt's article sounds level headed and reasonable, although i would encourage the switcher to try to forget anything windows.( shame on me, sometimes i need explorer to check some live tennis results, and word to send out documents). The other sites seemed too biased, but what do i know.
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Old Feb 17th, 2005, 03:42 PM   #4
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it brings up some valid points. i don't think it's news to anybody, except maybe to sj...

maybe he'll work on some of that for the future

most people are JUST PLAIN SCARED to try new things. this is also NOT a revelation.

i like my mac and i would never return to windows. and i try to help others see the light. and then they tell 2 friends, and they tell two friends, and so on, and so on...

keep plugging away and it'll all be ok. the best thing mac people can do to facilitate people moving over is to avoid being branded as a cult. don't be pushy, don't be smug, just smile and nod and offer your opinion if asked.
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"If you need an ultralight laptop for traveling, you're out of luck with Apple. The Mac laptops are great, but the lightest one weighs 4.6 pounds, compared with three pounds or less on the Windows side."


Hum...but at what price do you get such a light PC ???

as for the rest, i do agree...don't swith to MAC.

we all know these computer aren't good, no reliable, buggy....

well, you know, the usual
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Old Feb 17th, 2005, 04:29 PM   #6
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Hi Macaholic,

Interesting point of view, in my opinion, let me look at this closely and share a few words ;
WALTER " The Mac is as good as Windows at these core tasks "
Me - The Mac is above and beyond WIndows.
WALTER " The Mac and Windows are close cousins "
Me - This person must receive shares from Microsoft, no way, the Mac is like Windows, example ; it does not crash every 10 minutes, you don't have to do repetitive restarts etc.,
WALTER " For instance, Apple uses a one-button mouse without a scroll wheel "
Me - Yes I love my one mouse button.
WALTER " And don't consider switching if your budget covers only the cost of the Mac itself ".
Me - On any platform, you have to purchase your own software, yes on Windows, there is an outstanding amount of piracy software, but the Mac people have pride and respect, the Mac includes a lot of bells and whistles that the PC world has to purchase separately, like a Video card, and audio card, an internal modem etc...
WALTER " Also, Windows users who rely on specialised business or technical software, or on custom software supplied by their employers, should be wary of switching ".
Me - I work with the Windows world since 1985, and have no problem exchanging files and documents on both platform. That includes Word, Excell, Quark, Illustrator, PhotShop, data Base, Pixar for animation, e-mails, web sites, managing web sites, name it, I have probably done it since 1985, etc...
When the personal computer, came to be had by most people, I visited stores who had both platforms, and there was absolutely no way, that I would have purchased a PC, with documents getting lost, what drive was it in, did you change the documents name by just adding a letter, and how can you find anything that you have to remember by exact name like " ab/..fzt,/wr. ", what does it mean, and what did it contain.
Even today, if you change any documents name by a simple letter in the Windows world, forget it, it's lost for ever.
The only big problem I am presently having, is web conferencing, with the Windows world, why is Apple not making iChat AV for Windows, they would take the market in a snap.
WALTER " You can enable a Mac to run Windows programs "
Me - LOL why would you.
WALTER " People who depend on their company's IT department to manage and support their home computers may find themselves locked into Windows. Most corporate computer staffs support only Windows and know little or nothing about Macs ".
Me - Narrow minded IT support.
My best friend worked for Bell & Sympatico as an IT guru, and although he admits his liking to the windows world, because he knows them inside out, he still support the Mac world, and often tells me that, he dreams of buying a MAc, he his just to stingy to spend the money, by getting a PC BOMB, and once he has loaded it with everything available on the market, he has spent as much as I have, but still claims that a Power Supply for a PC is $35.00 and cheap to replace, and I usually respond with the following " when did you hear of a MAc that needed a new Power Supply ??? ".
Yes it happens, but certainly not like the PC world.
WALTER " If you love Microsoft Outlook, you should also probably stick with Windows "
Me - If you actually like Outlook, maybe you should.
WALTER " If you use your PC mainly for games, avoid the Ma ".
Me - If you play games, don't buy a computer, get your self a XBox or Play Station ll.
WALTER " People who rely heavily on financial software may be unhappy with the Mac ".
Me - I don't think so, he better do his homework before speaking out on this subject.
WALTER " If you need an ultra light laptop for travelling ".
Me - When you want cheap, buy a PC, if you want stability, buy a MAC, weight has nothing to do with a good computer.
I will continue to lag around My PowerBook.
WALTER " If you use a portable music player other than Apple's iPod, or love the major subscription music service ".
Me - If you still use basics, do like me, get yourself a CD player, it's cheap, light weight, and goes a long ways on batteries, even travelling extensively by plane or other, I like my CD PLayer, how much space does a dozen CD's really take ???
Eventually, I will get to an iPod, for the moment, it's not a must, and believe me, i like toys.
WALTER " Of course, you can overcome most of these obstacles if you buy a Mac as a companion to, rather than a replacement for, a Windows machine ".
Me - Best advice so far, you should do so, and when you do, I will be Glad to welcome you to the world of Mac's.
WALTER " The bottom line is that the Mac is a great alternative for mainstream consumers doing mainstream tasks who are sick and tired of the Windows security crisis. But it isn't for everybody ".
Me - I have worked with both platforms since 1985, and to this day, there is no way, that you could convince me, that a PC running Windows as an emulator, than loading an application, that has to pass through the Windows emulator that the core language will come even remotely close to a Mac.
I am not narrow minded, I have touched both platforms, and the Mac is and will remain, the most stable machine, running a lot of software, and I no longer look at the price issue, because I no longer buy Mac's that are new off the shelf, I rather buy a used machine, in great shape, let some one else pay for the depreciation, and enjoy spending my $$$ on accessories and toys.
When I purchased my G4 last August, I had checked out the new G5 single 1.8, with my IT friend, and I will quote what he said, " This is no faster than your Dual 867mz ", and I may even say, that he is a nut for speed.
I am now considering an upgrade, and will start looking for a G5 Dual 2.25, and when they become affordable in consideration to my budget, i will buy.

The beauty of being open minded, is that where ever I go, and there is access to High speed internet, I can work, earn a living and do my thing.

All in all, " in my world, I am not a god, but there is my Mac's ".

My 2 cents. ( or should I say by the lenght of this post, my dollar and a half ) LOL

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Old Feb 17th, 2005, 05:08 PM   #7
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WOW! What a post

My thoughts on his arguments would probably be about as long, but I've not the time at the moment to tackle it.
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...but I've not the time at the moment to tackle it.
Too busy checking all the news site on all things Apple, I presume.
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Hum...but at what price do you get such a light PC ???
For about 2300$ and up, CDN. Generally, closer to 2600-2700$ CDN.

Not really that much more than a PowerBook 12". They typically have less features (crap video card, slower Centrino processor) than their bulkier cousins (or most Mac Laptops), but they also often have longer battery lives (Panasonic has a toughbook that wieghs 2.8 Lbs with the battery, and lasts over 6.5 hours under <i>real world conditions</i>).

I'd still argue that most of the Mac laptops are better value, though, and considering that most people don't buy the ultra light laptops the point is somewhat moot.
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Too busy checking all the news site on all things Apple, I presume.
Yes. It's a busy life for ehMac's cub reporter
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