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Old Jul 23rd, 2008, 12:34 AM   #1
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No data plan with Fido?

I'm interested in getting a new iphone. I'm currently a Rogers customer but I don't have a contract or anything. I want to get a voice plan with fido but I heard people couldn't get an iphone if they didn't get a data plan as well.

I know you can get an iphone with no data plan on Rogers, but I want to go with Fido since they're using per-second billing.

Was this just at first, in the confusion of it all, or is it still like this even now?

Thanks.

(hope this made sense, english isn't my main language)
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Old Jul 23rd, 2008, 01:58 AM   #2
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You can get an iPhone with no Data plan on either Fido or Rogers. Sales people may try to tell you you can't get a data plan - but that's 'cause they make huge commission on selling Data plans.

The downside is that an iPhone with no data plan may incur big charges, since it's hard(er) to turn off 3G/EDGE Data on the 3G iPhones.
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Old Jul 23rd, 2008, 02:00 AM   #3
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I heard you could ask them to block all data on your account to make sure you dont get any unwanted data/charges.

And thanks for the reply.
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Old Jul 23rd, 2008, 07:41 AM   #4
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I heard you could ask them to block all data on your account to make sure you dont get any unwanted data/charges.

And thanks for the reply.
Make sure this happens. Telling yourself that you'll never surf is one thing, but if there's data access, your phone will use it to scout for application updates etc on its own - and if you have no data plan, you'll incur crazy charges.
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Old Jul 23rd, 2008, 10:31 AM   #5
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FYI, I've been having real problems with FIDO blocking data.

Called three times to request it, and although they claim to have, I just checked my iPhone to see 45kb sent, 560kb received.

Called them again, and they say it's blocked and I'll have to deal with any usage fees once I'm billed.

Kind of makes me wonder what's going on. Are they purposesly 'leaking' data to get people to buy into a data plan?
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Old Jul 23rd, 2008, 11:25 AM   #6
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Of course ! Just where do you think the margins are coming from?
Not a subsidized phone, that's for sure!
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Old Jul 23rd, 2008, 01:17 PM   #7
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My partner had asked for a data block on her phone, and she still had access to data after that call. I called back to fido and asked them to block it again and stated that she has an iPhone. The fido agent said that it requires a different sort of block. Two hours later, no data whatsoever. When she tries to connect using edge or 3g a little pop up screen shows up stating that their is a block on network data.

I don't think they are twisted enough to "leak" data. To confirm your data is blocked through fido, make sure you state you have an iPhone and need both edge and 3g blocked and then check for the pop up!

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Old Jul 24th, 2008, 01:17 AM   #8
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it worked!

hey all,

I contemplated getting an iphone 3g with no data with fido for a while, and I have been going through a lot of forums to see if it could done.

Well, I got an iphone two days ago.....at the time I asked the fido sales person to block data on my account. The sales rep tried to convince me to buy a data plan, citing some bs about an american customer who racked up thousands in data fees without a plan (um...doesn't she know they HAVE to get a data plan in the states).

Anyhoo, armed with all my forum knowledge, I fought back...perhaps too much as she seemed a bit intimidated. She asked the manager if I could block internet and get an iphone without a data, plan and the manager said yes.

The sales rep called on my behalf to block my internet, however, several hours later I tested and I still had data access.

I called 611, and the first lady I got was quite patronizing, saying that I shouldn't have been able to buy an iphone without data (she even chuckled a one point) and said my options were to subscribe to a data plan, or return the phone. She further said the fido store who sold me the phone obvious hasn't had the "iphone training."

If I wanted to, I totally would/could have blown up on her, but I was desperate to block my data, so I hung up and called 611 again, this time greeted by a well-mannered guy who, upon checking my account, found out the internet block i had was not compatible with the iphone, and he went on to put in the compatible lock. Several hours later, cellular data was successfully blocked on my account

The lesson learned? Don't let Fido, and their army of incompetent bitchy employees, jerk you around! When buying an iphone, specifically ask for data blockage compatible with the iPhone.

On further reflection, I'm amazed by the amount of patronizing scrutiny I had to go through to BUY something from fido. Gee weez, with all the trouble I had one would have thought I was trying to rob them.
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Old Jul 24th, 2008, 01:49 AM   #9
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Rogers or Fido, it's the same story. They make a KILLING on data plans. That's why they dropped the price to $30 for 6GB at the last minute; they were afraid too many people would figure out that they could skip the dataless plan and still do most of what they wanted to do. And the limited time until the end of August is just another scam to get people to buy in by preying on their hidden fears of extra costs. Fact is, you ask that data be blocked and it somehow gets through, then Rogers/Fido is responsible for picking up the tab, not you. Remember? You never agreed to a data plan. They cannot charge you for something you never agreed to. As long as there's a WiFi signal nearby, happy iPhone surfing!
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Old Jul 24th, 2008, 03:32 AM   #10
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Fact is, you ask that data be blocked and it somehow gets through, then Rogers/Fido is responsible for picking up the tab, not you. Remember? You never agreed to a data plan. They cannot charge you for something you never agreed to. As long as there's a WiFi signal nearby, happy iPhone surfing!
I don't think that's true... if you're not on a data plan but you use data, that's considered pay-per-use and there's a charge for that. You can fight it and make Rogers credit it back to you, but they aren't automatically responsible for picking up the tab.
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