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Old Jun 24th, 2008, 08:28 PM   #1
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iPod Touch - Futureshop

What's the difference (besides price) on these two:

Future Shop: iPod & MP3 Players: Apple iPod: Apple 8GB iPod Touch V2

& the 8 Gb model here: Apple Store (Canada) - iPod touch

And I'm also camera shopping. Anyone have any thoughts on the Canon Powershot SX100IS? Future Shop: Cameras & Camcorders: Digital Cameras: Canon PowerShot 8MP Digital Camera (SX100IS)

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Old Jun 24th, 2008, 08:49 PM   #2
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Hey I can't help you much on the ipod touch but I can help you on the digital camera. Canon consumer camera line is not that great compare to other brands. Canon is great at D-SLR and professional stuff.

I would suggest you look at Panasonic Lumix line. They have LEICA lens so they take great picture and the camera is relatively easy to use. And stay away from anything from Sony. typically their(sony) camera is not that user friendly.
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Canon SD series is usually very good and their DSLRs are ok but at the moment they don't hold much against the Nikon DSLRs. However Lumix has surpassed most brands out there and their leica lenses are brilliant. Sony cameras are brilliant... if they ever take SD cards. I hate Sony and their proprietary bull$hit.

Don't get carried away with with the Mega Pixels. Megapixels don't account for the quality of the CCD and CMOS chip that the camera has. Also don't get attracted towards the cameras with a VERY large LCD screen, especially avoid the ones that don't have a eyepiece view in them. This way you will conserve batteries as you will have a choice to turn off the screen and use the eyepiece viewfinder instead.

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To echo what spitfire said, when looking at similar point and shoot cameras of varying megapixels, beleive it or not, but the ones with higher megapixels are more likely to be noisier and lower quality, especially since for the most part they all have the same sensor size if not very close.

Kinda why a few years back my Canon Powershot G3 (4Mp) did better prints than the comparible 'prosumer' model of fuji 12MP cameras. Aside from the image processing chip that canon has been known for.

DSLR of course are quite a different league.
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Those iPod Touches are the same ones. FutureShop is cheaper.
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Those iPod Touches are the same ones. FutureShop is cheaper.
I have a question though, I don't know how it is in canada, but I know here in the US, retailers cannot sell apple branded products new-in-box for cheaper than Apple themselves would sell them for. Is it supposed to be the same for the Canada market to, and if so how can Futureshop be cheaper?
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The ipod touches both have MA623C/B as their part number so they are the same. If you want more information on cameras i would suggest looking at camera review sites or forums such as Digital Camera Reviews and News: Digital Photography Review: Forums, Glossary, FAQ
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I have a question though, I don't know how it is in canada, but I know here in the US, retailers cannot sell apple branded products new-in-box for cheaper than Apple themselves would sell them for. Is it supposed to be the same for the Canada market to, and if so how can Futureshop be cheaper?
This is a common fallacy. No manufacturer can set or restrict pricing. It's called price fixing, and it's illegal.

You only assume Apple sets prices because most retailers follow Apple pricing.

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In the United States, price fixing can be prosecuted as a criminal felony offense under section 1 of the Sherman Antitrust Act. In Canada, it is an indictable criminal offence under section 45 of the Competition Act.
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This is a common fallacy. No manufacturer can set or restrict pricing. It's called price fixing, and it's illegal.

You only assume Apple sets prices because most retailers follow Apple pricing.


Price fixing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Actually here in the US and I've worked for several camera shops (including one where I was involved in the pricing of products before we put them on the shelf, small business basically). For example you cannot price the cameras below the MAP (Minimum Advertised Price) or you risk your dealership license with that manufacture. Some companies can get away with it by offering rebates instead, cuz the advertised price remains at MAP, but the final price is after rebate.
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The manufacturer can restrict what prices are advertised, but they can't restrict what prices the dealer actually sells for.

Apple's prices are de facto regulated through the simple fact that Apple gives the dealers an extremely small margin - 3% - 7% - which means that nobody has any room to discount.

You will see Costco selling iPods for $5 off Apple's price on a regular basis.
Futureshop occasionally puts on $10 off as a promotion.
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