I've been thinking and watching the news lately with regards to Rogers and Research In Motion (RIM). RIM has just made the headlines again with an increase in sales from their Blackberry line and Rogers being the biggest carrier of RIM devices also is racking in the cash from sales of RIM devices. Rogers also makes a killing on charging high prices for their packages with regards to Blackberry users.
RIM is like the Microsoft to the North in Canada in bed with Rogers. There is no way Apple has a fighting chance against RIM if Rogers is making so much money off of each Blackberry sold and package sold in Canada.
If Rogers saw an opportunity to make as much money from Apple's iPhone as they are doing with RIM and its Blackberry's, then we would have had the iPhone along time ago. I believe that Apple is seen as a threat to RIM and Rogers strong marriage here in Canada.
Imagine if Apple's iPhone came to Canada, Rogers gave the exact cell plans in price as down in the U.S., well our Waterloo company RIM will see sales drop like a rock, as both Rogers and RIM depend on the software and high cell plans to make any decent money in sales. I strongly believe this is a major reason that we don't see Apple's iPhone available here in Canada.
The above is my opinion and speculation, but I wonder how far from the truth the above really is? What are your opinions?
I've been thinking and watching the news lately with regards to Rogers and Research In Motion (RIM). RIM has just made the headlines again with an increase in sales from their Blackberry line and Rogers being the biggest carrier of RIM devices also is racking in the cash from sales of RIM devices. Rogers also makes a killing on charging high prices for their packages with regards to Blackberry users.
RIM is like the Microsoft to the North in Canada in bed with Rogers. There is no way Apple has a fighting chance against RIM if Rogers is making so much money off of each Blackberry sold and package sold in Canada.
If Rogers saw an opportunity to make as much money from Apple's iPhone as they are doing with RIM and its Blackberry's, then we would have had the iPhone along time ago. I believe that Apple is seen as a threat to RIM and Rogers strong marriage here in Canada.
Imagine if Apple's iPhone came to Canada, Rogers gave the exact cell plans in price as down in the U.S., well our Waterloo company RIM will see sales drop like a rock, as both Rogers and RIM depend on the software and high cell plans to make any decent money in sales. I strongly believe this is a major reason that we don't see Apple's iPhone available here in Canada.
The above is my opinion and speculation, but I wonder how far from the truth the above really is? What are your opinions?
I concurr..
I've been singing the same song for over a year..But you forgot to mention the 3some thats happening... and the 3rd lover is our Govt. they approved the sale of Fido to Rogers which was the making of the Manopoly we see now..
We will never see the iPhone unless another company brings it to us..Telus, ATT, Virgin....
Your commentary breaks my heart... because it may be closer to the truth than I'm willing to accept. I desperately want a legitimate Canadian iPhone, but am close to deciding on an iPod touch for the features I'd like in a cell phone.
Your commentary breaks my heart... because it may be closer to the truth than I'm willing to accept. I desperately want a legitimate Canadian iPhone, but am close to deciding on an iPod touch for the features I'd like in a cell phone.
There is absolutely nothing "illegitimate" about buying an iPhone in the United States and using it on fido or Rogers. You won't have an affordable data plan, but you certainly aren't breaking any laws, anywhere. That may not be what you meant, but...
Rogers will have the iPhone by the end of the year. Guaranteed.
Consumers have been asking for it. Rogers can only come up with so many excuses not to carry it. With the threat of Telus possibly moving to GSM, Rogers would be committing suicide if they didn't bring the iPhone to Canada.
they approved the sale of Fido to Rogers which was the making of the Manopoly we see now..
Rogers buying Fido has not created a mOnopoly - the choice to offer GSM services was a choice that any cell phone company has had, or does continue to have.
Each company has the option to choose what type of cell service to offer its customers.
Just because Bell and Telus havent (as of yet) offered GSM service, doesnt make it a bad thing that Rogers does.
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Rogers will have the iPhone by the end of the year. Guaranteed.
Consumers have been asking for it. Rogers can only come up with so many excuses not to carry it. With the threat of Telus possibly moving to GSM, Rogers would be committing suicide if they didn't bring the iPhone to Canada.
You think Mr.Rogers cares if we ask about it ...dude mulla vs annoying consumer who has no choice..c'mon we live in Mr. Rogers' neighborhood..He owns you....
I think another company is the only way untill then Rogers and RIM will keep milking the market. Is it coincidence that RIM outlook is "Rosy for this years profits" announced back to back with Rogers Profit up 44% this year..
I disagree with the original poster. I've said this before and I'll say it again.
IMHO - BlackBerries and iPhones are different products for different markets.
Yes, I agree that both devices allow users to make phone calls, send and receive emails/texts, browse the internet and listen to music.
BUT
One product is aimed at corporate users (ie BlackBerry) while the other is aimed at the consumer market (ie iPhone). Yes, these are generalizations, but please allow me to continue.
Put yourself on Bay Street or Parliament Hill - how many of the currently BB using people can you picture using an iPhone? To the average businessman or parliamentarian (or deluded low-level bureauocrat) the iPhone is a toy. To you and me, that's fine. There is no way in hell you'll see me carry a BB!
In this light, there are two distinct markets. Sure, there may be some bleeding between markets, but generally, they are distinct. As for different prices for different products, so be it. If there were to be a US-style iPhone pricing model in Canada, so what. That's the plan that comes with the iPhone, just as there will be a plan that comes with a BB. People will complain, but in my eyes, it's like people saying "this product is great, but what it should really have is X, Y & Z." That's fair enough, but when you buy the product, it's quite clear from the outset what you'll get. You know that you won't get X, Y or Z, so don't complain when you don't get it.
Therefore, there is a market for both products, as both have different target markets.
Just my 2c. Feel free to agree or disagree.
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Its not just Rogers that's making a killing off the BB's as our local provider (MTS) does very well off them as well. I really wanted an iPhone but honestly since getting a BB Pearl that interest has diminished a great deal...its not an Apple product but its a VERY polished product and the Pearls form factor is nearly perfect for me.
Why iPhone will not come to Canada?
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