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Old Jan 17th, 2005, 08:57 AM   #51
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Creative CEO wits:
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"Actually, to me it's a big let-down: we're expecting a good fight but they're coming out with something that's five generations older,"
Expecting a good fight?



If they think they're holding their own now, wait until the next quarter's figures.



Dude... just stay down before you get really hurt. :p
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Old Jan 17th, 2005, 09:36 AM   #52
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Harsh word about the Shuffle from Creative CEO
http://www.ipodlounge.com/ipodnews_c...d=6124_0_7_0_C

I think its fear speaking. Deep down I think their all afraid of the shuffle.

This shouldn't be taken for Apple's defense but Creative is also one of those non respect to customer companies.

Almost always they first release a product that is a cheap alternative to a valuable brand (ir their first release of CDRWs were Plextors, once the word is out, people jumped on Creative CDRWs and they ended up getting cheap Samsung ones. So called, different batch excuse.,

Same happened when they released first bacth of 4GB compact flashplayers. It was 'replacable' at the baginning and when the word hit the internet, everyone jumped on it yet they settled with a fixed one.

From personal experience, creative also does not provide Canadian warranty (ie you have to deal with their US office don't even provide (in the past at least) canadian 1-800 number,

So from one tyrant to another. All I can say about creative is Ceveat Emptor.

PS: It is interesting to read though the people's response to Eye Shuffle on Ipod Lounge Site.
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PS if anyone knows of a decent non-Apple player which might meet my needs, I'd love to hear about it !
The Lexar Jumpdrive Sport is what I've been using and I have enjoyed using it but it does have
its quirks that I don't like, Like the fact that when I turn it off it'll forget all of the preferences
and I'll have to reinput them each time I want to use it.

You can't beat the price though and you can insert different "Jump" flash drives for when you want to
make up multiple playlists.

Lexar jumpdrive Sport = $53.99

Lexar 1 gb flash drive = $107.99

As for the Apple Shuffle...
I like the idea of the Shuffle's switch on the back of the Shuffle,
The switch that allows you to switch between linear and shuffle mode.
That idea is what I think will make the Shuffle a real winner,
The ability to change a function physically rather than having to do it in a menu, Nice touch!

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Old Jan 17th, 2005, 10:18 AM   #54
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The Lexar Jumpdrive Sport is what I've been using and I have enjoyed using it...
This syncs with iTunes on Macs only, right? I read that many MP3 players work with iTunes but only on the Mac.
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No one here in their right mind will touch first or second generation Ipod here I am sure since there were very ugly experiences. If you looked at the sales chart that was shown in the keynote, after 3 releases (ie on the fourth release) sales picked up since people (first didn't know, second waited for bugs to be cleaned out). So yes after 3 version releases(or bug fixes) everybody will like the shuffle. Sooner we start to provide 'right feedback' better they will work on the initial release.
Er..... wrong..... The 1st and 2nd generation iPods were not duds nor commercial failures. Ugly experiences? If that was the case, why the heck have sales escalated consistently? The sales curve is classic for a successful new product.

Perhaps someone could compare the iPod sales curve with that of the Tablet PC for an example of a failure (even though the technology has some nice features)?

I suppose your idea of improving the iPod shuffle is to convert it into a Muvo? There is no logical business reason for Apple to add "features" to the the iPod shuffle. If you want a screen or adaptability, buy an iPod or one of the other flash products from 50 other companies. There will be improvements over time but, like the ipod, the core concept will remain unchanged. Don't mess with a winning design.
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As for the Apple Shuffle...
I like the idea of the Shuffle's switch on the back of the Shuffle,
The switch that allows you to switch between linear and shuffle mode.
That idea is what I think will make the Shuffle a real winner,
The ability to change a function physically rather than having to do it in a menu, Nice touch!
i didn't even think of this as an argument until you brought it up. too true. how much would i like being able to switch between linear and shuffle mode on my mini without accessing the screen menu?

again, i feel that to deem something a "failure" would mean waiting until a year down the road and looking at the sales figures. it doesn't matter that it's not as technologically advanced as other relases by apple. it may be "low standard" compared with other apple products but as far as other manufacturers go, it kicks their asses, imo.

people have been requesting this type of product (cheap, small) from apple, and now apple has delivered. who can argue that apple won't rightfully sell millions of these devices? and yes, a similar "halo" effect will see people upgrading to ipods or minis, and even some to computer systems. brilliant marketing strategy.

and don't imagine that it isn't all about the marketing. apple is the market leader right now. smart move to not only corner the market with the low end flash player but to design it and price it right... how can they lose?

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This syncs with iTunes on Macs only, right? I read that many MP3 players work with iTunes but only on the Mac.
I haven't tried syncing it yet,
But I have dragged and dropped songs from iTunes onto the flash drive and it plays them just fine.

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